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Politics & The CIC/Prez



Gene Steinberg

Forum Super Hero
Staff member
And here's an update on what Trump did when he tried to make the Secret Service take him to the Capital to join in the riot:


The point is that, within the normal range of differing interpretations and explanations for the incident that Cassidy Hutchinson recited as second hand, what she said appears reasonably accurate.

Bear in mind that, yes, people lie under oath. But as some of Trump's minions learned, lying under oath to Congress is a felony. You can go to jail for it if you don't have a President to pardon you. Hutchinson was under oath. Those who reacted to what she said were not.
 

Walking Short

Skilled Investigator
And here's an update on what Trump did when he tried to make the Secret Service take him to the Capital to join in the riot:


The point is that, within the normal range of differing interpretations and explanations for the incident that Cassidy Hutchinson recited as second hand, what she said appears reasonably accurate.

Bear in mind that, yes, people lie under oath. But as some of Trump's minions learned, lying under oath to Congress is a felony. You can go to jail for it if you don't have a President to pardon you. Hutchinson was under oath. Those who reacted to what she said were not.
I thought you wanted to get over this. Showing a CNN article is not going to help your cause. Her testimony was third, fourth or fifth hand hearsay anyway.
 

Gene Steinberg

Forum Super Hero
Staff member
You didn't read the article, so please stop commenting on things you know nothing about.

Read it and respond. It's clear the Secret Service knew that Trump blew up on the way back from his speech. Whether he lunged or moved or threatened to do so is minor in the scheme of things, that he wanted to join an armed mob trying to overturn the legitimate results of the election. That's the REAL issue you don't have the courage to confront.
 

Walking Short

Skilled Investigator
You didn't read the article, so please stop commenting on things you know nothing about.

Read it and respond. It's clear the Secret Service knew that Trump blew up on the way back from his speech. Whether he lunged or moved or threatened to do so is minor in the scheme of things, that he wanted to join an armed mob trying to overturn the legitimate results of the election. That's the REAL issue you don't have the courage to confront.
I did read it and there is nothing new except it confirms the selectivity of witnesses. Also if you go back and read my post, I never once said I in anyway approved of Jan 6. Trump is gone now give it a rest.
 

Gene Steinberg

Forum Super Hero
Staff member
What the article actually did was confirm Trump's erratic behavior as described even if there are slight differences in what one remembers. if you did read it, you weren't paying attention.

You cannot give a rest to a situation unparalleled in American history, of a President who loses his attempt to gain a second turn by a huge margin, refuses to concede and who helps engineer an attempted coup against the country. That is by any definition a serious crime. That he came awfully close to doing it must raise alarm bells for you.

If you don't care, so be it. But there may be another Trump-type lunatic out there who will be sane enough to succeed next time.

The committee's public sessions have gotten increasingly larger audiences, larger by far than Fox News and Newsmax, to reveal the facts about what happened. It is far worse than most people imagined.
 

Walking Short

Skilled Investigator
What the article actually did was confirm Trump's erratic behavior as described even if there are slight differences in what one remembers. if you did read it, you weren't paying attention.

You cannot give a rest to a situation unparalleled in American history, of a President who loses his attempt to gain a second turn by a huge margin, refuses to concede and who helps engineer an attempted coup against the country. That is by any definition a serious crime. That he came awfully close to doing it must raise alarm bells for you.

If you don't care, so be it. But there may be another Trump-type lunatic out there who will be sane enough to succeed next time.

The committee's public sessions have gotten increasingly larger audiences, larger by far than Fox News and Newsmax, to reveal the facts about what happened. It is far worse than most people imagined.
You may be right if you believe this article. Please pay attention to the 5th paragraph.
 

Gene Steinberg

Forum Super Hero
Staff member
The survey results seem reasonable. But there is also a factual divide. Obvious facts are ignored or disputed, so the traditional political debates can hardly be accomplished any more.

So a great percentage of Republicans still believe the 2020 Federal election was fraudulent when, in fact, it was regarded as one of the more secure ever. Worse, those beliefs are not backed up with any evidence of anything but a few instances here and there, which is worse.
 

Gene Steinberg

Forum Super Hero
Staff member
There is plenty to attack Clarence Thomas about, such as his wife's participation in the 2020 election fraud, and his refusal to recuse himself when election cases came before the Supreme Court. Or his crazy suggestions that, after Roe vs. Wade was knocked down, making statements that imply he will go after gay marriage and even contraception.

It has nothing to do with his race.
 

Walking Short

Skilled Investigator
There is plenty to attack Clarence Thomas about, such as his wife's participation in the 2020 election fraud, and his refusal to recuse himself when election cases came before the Supreme Court. Or his crazy suggestions that, after Roe vs. Wade was knocked down, making statements that imply he will go after gay marriage and even contraception.

It has nothing to do with his race.
The courts are not trying to appease you, they are trying to get us back to a more moral and constitutionally stable country. Race relations were making good progress until someone came up with this critical race theory crap and Lgbtq decided it was time to rub it in everyones face and demand stupid stuff like trying to say there is more than two genders. Most people will tolerate anything until you start trying to tell them what to think. If every judge recused himself because his wife or family was opinionated, we wouldn't get anywhere. As far as I'm concerned you can be whatever you like. Just don't tell me I have to like it or except it. If the government keeps on trying to interfere with family beliefs and radical subjects in education they will bite of more than they can chew.
 

Gene Steinberg

Forum Super Hero
Staff member
Critical race theory is one of the right-wing's fakeouts that people like you fell for.


The people behind it want to make people afraid, and appeal to your lizard brain so you vote for them. It is not something for K-12 school children.

You talk about the government trying to interfere with family beliefs, but you forget that appears to apply to a woman's uterus.

As far as judges recusing themselves, read this. It's complicated:


Justice Thomas' wife, Ginny, was involved in a movement to overthrow the government of the United States. If that's not an issue for recusal, very little is. While she may not have committed a crime, the messages quoted from her make it very clear that she came real close.

As far as rubbing things in someone's face, the party that is supposed to stand for individual freedoms, Republicans, are doing just that when it comes to LGBTQ, abortion, freedom of speech and other issues.
 

Walking Short

Skilled Investigator
Critical race theory is one of the right-wing's fakeouts that people like you fell for.


The people behind it want to make people afraid, and appeal to your lizard brain so you vote for them. It is not something for K-12 school children.

You talk about the government trying to interfere with family beliefs, but you forget that appears to apply to a woman's uterus.

As far as judges recusing themselves, read this. It's complicated:


Justice Thomas' wife, Ginny, was involved in a movement to overthrow the government of the United States. If that's not an issue for recusal, very little is. While she may not have committed a crime, the messages quoted from her make it very clear that she came real close.

As far as rubbing things in someone's face, the party that is supposed to stand for individual freedoms, Republicans, are doing just that when it comes to LGBTQ, abortion, freedom of speech and other issues.
God bless Mr. Thomas
 

Gene Steinberg

Forum Super Hero
Staff member
OK, so it's OK to ban gay marriage, contraception and all the rest?

At least Thomas wouldn't ban multiracial marriages, because his wife is white.

Thomas is a menace.
 
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