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orange flash & missing time

GilBavel wrote:
"I'm pretty sure that something goes on that we don't have control over, but since they may be extradimensional beings, it may be that they can move us into their dimension, or meet us halfway."



Mike C! replies:
That's as good of an explanation as I've ever heard...

(above) You wrote: "I'm pretty sure."

I would change that to: "I'm pretty DAMN sure!!!"
 
I'm pretty sure that something goes on that we don't have control over, but since they may be extradimensional beings, it may be that they can move us into their dimension, or meet us halfway.

This seems to be the case based on my experiences. I've had an encounter in which I could see both the room I was in, and another space at the same time...like projecting two films onto one screen. The resolution between the two spaces was kind of going back and forth. It almost seemed like the beings involved were having technical difficulties.
 
I'm adding this extra detail.

I had a lot of bloody noses when I was young. Maybe between when I was 11 years old, and my early teens.

I remember waking up with a bloody pillow - and it just seemed weird. Like it was too perfect. Usually I would wake up and realize my nose was bleeding. I would pinch it, and lay a certain way until it stopped. But there were at least two occations that I just woke up and I was perplexed at how I could sleep thru it like I did.
 
My Personal Experiences and Memories
from Mike C

Presently, I'm a 45 year old white guy, living out west. This story is an event that really bugs me, and I can't seem to ignore it's implications.

* * *

It was a pleasant and clear autumn night in Michigan, a medium sized suburb of Detroit named Southfield. I was 12 years old and in 8th grade, it was 1974. It was Friday night after the local high school football game, and I was walking home after the game ended. It was normal for me to walk the half-mile back to my house. I was with my friend (also named Mike), who was walking the same way. We were close to my home in a neighborhood of small suburban houses on a well lit but quiet street. The scene was completely normal and calm.

Suddenly there was a bold and jarring flash that took up most of the sky. It was a giant blur, and everything up above us was lit bright orange. It felt like someone just flipped a switch and the sky lit up, and then went back to normal. As soon as it happened, it was gone. It was completely silent. We were surprised and both responded with, "What just happened?"

There was nothing to see, since the event was over instantly, but there was something very unsettling about that moment. Was it a meteor? Why was it silent? I know that I saw something, but there's an odd skip in my memory.

The color seemed utterly bizarre and unnatural, it was a very bright and very saturated orange. To this day, whenever I see a campfire, and look at that the way the coals can glow as a warm radiant orange, I say to myself, "That's how the sky looked that night."

We continued to my house, I said goodbye and Mike walked home. I was excited to get home and watch a television show I really loved (KOLSHAK, The Night Stalker) that started at ten o'clock. I clearly remember making an effort to leave the football game in order to get home in plenty of time so I could watch this show. But when I walked in the door, my parents were angry that I was out so late. I was surprised because I had intended to be home at about 9:30, but instead it was well after 11 o'clock. It seemed odd, but I remember that I was actually more upset because I missed that cool TV show.

The next Monday a group of friends, including Mike, were all in the cafeteria at school, and I told everyone that we had seen a bizarre light on Friday night. Mike said, "Yeah, a UFO with lights and everything!" That shocked me. I hadn't seen anything with lights. Did he see something I didn't? Mike and I never mentioned that night again.

That was over 30 years ago, and I have no idea what has happened to my friend Mike. I've always had a memory of this event, but the orange light in the night sky, was one memory, and the missing time (maybe two hours?) was another. They seemed disjointed.

It wasn't until the mid-1990's that I realized that both memories were the same night. I was watching an interview with Chris Carter, creator of the X-Files, who talked about how he loved the same TV show (KOLSHAK, The Night Stalker) when he was a kid. When he mentioned that show - Instantly the memories resurfaced and slammed together with an almost electric jolt, like somebody just flipped a switch in my head.

That was 34 years ago, and I have been sort of freaked out lately, trying to make sense of the implications.

peace,
M!


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Note: I easily googled the TV show KOLCHAK (spelled without an 's') and it was only on for one season. So, this makes it the fall of 1974. Given that exact date, I would have been 12 years old, and I was in 7th grade.

You know what that sounds like to me ( Its another form of Time Slip) There are 4 types of Time Slips. 1. When Time doesnt flow in a straight line like it should..Sometimes time of the future or past overlapse itself into the present time creating a glimpse ( of the Future or Past) in various locations unexpectedly which can last in seconds to couple of hours and then POOF!!! its gone such as my case in Time Traveling ( Time Slip Phenomenon) 2. a person or group of people Traveling into the past interacting with ghosts from the past. 3. A person or a group of people traveling into the Future or the Past not interacting with ghosts...Being alone into another time and place..4 missing time (usually moving forward in time) missing hours and missing days accompanied by a white or orange bolt flash of light ( lightening) and also accompanied by heavy thick fog. Here is a video to watch about Time Slips :)

 
I had a lot of bloody noses when I was young. Maybe between when I was 11 years old, and my early teens.

I remember waking up with a bloody pillow - and it just seemed weird. Like it was too perfect. Usually I would wake up and realize my nose was bleeding. I would pinch it, and lay a certain way until it stopped. But there were at least two occations that I just woke up and I was perplexed at how I could sleep thru it like I did.

Man bleeds to death from picking his nose too much, inquest hears | Mail Online
 
Skunkape,
You and Aaron should have a contest on some of the weird shit you guys can find on the internet. You both crack me up.
 
My mom always had nose bleeds during at night and during the day as well due to dryness in the air, medications ( blood thinner) picking your nose alot and perhaps high-blood pressure, a punch in the nose after a fight so on..There are many causes of nosebleeds.
 
When I started this thread - way back when - I never expected it to get to be seven pages long. It was a strange way to try and make sense (and share) some of my experiences.

One thing that I have found to be a curious pattern among the people who claim this strange experience is depression. I make it a point to ask about depression when I meet anyone with the "contact" experience, and they all seem to reply that, yes, they suffer from depression. Myself included.

This patten is way higher than if I asked a control group of random individuals. (No hard data here, just anecdotal) I posted another thread where I asked TEN QUESTIONS to "experiencers" and it came out the same way, much higher than the standard population.

Why is that? What does it imply? Is it a sign of some sort of repressed trauma?

This issue has fascinated me, and I can't seem to get a good answer.

Any insights out there?

peace,
MikeC!
 
I have been inspired - for weird reasons - to create a blog.

Here's the link:
hidden experience

Presently, it's just weird synchronicity stuff.

I wanna put my UFO experiences on there, like the stuff on this thread, but (right now, at this minute) I'm not brave enough.

Maybe - soon - maybe.

peace,
M!
 
Curious time noted on curious podcasts

I was driving home from the Laughlin Conference, and this was not a peaceful time for me. I was struggling and conflicted about the consistent set of feedback I had been receiving during my week locked in that creepy casino. The dilemma of what to do next in my life was oppressive and real.

I was north of Salt Lake City approaching the Idaho border and I was listening to on my iPod. The PARACAST episode comes up with Leo Sprinkle. I had heard it before, and I though it was really interesting, so I made an effort to pay attention.

At one point in the discussion, Leo brings up my name, and talks about my dilemma. He sums up my emotional state in a few brief sentences. And then David shares his insights, and he takes a few moments to articulate his feelings about my credibility.

During this drive I was trying to sort out a lot of emotional stuff in my head. It had become clear that I was going to need to start sharing my experiences with people. I had a plan to invite a couple of friends over and to let them in on all this stuff, I trust these two folks, and I wanted to gage their reaction. I though I could even play them this little excerpt from the PARACAST where my credibility gets praised.

So I make an effort to note the time on the iPod display where my name gets mentioned. Now, trying to do this and drive on a busy interstate isn’t easy, but I can see the time marker reads 1:23:45.

Okay, that’s a little odd. Anyway, it’s a very easy number to remember, and I plan on reviewing it at home, when I’m not driving 80 miles per hour. For the remaining few hours of the drive, this weird detail sort of bugs me.

When I get home, I immediately turn on my computer and make a frantic effort to find that episode where Leo mentions my case.

I’ve transcribed it below, and I’ve noted EXACTLY where the 1:23:45 fits into Leo’s comments.


(Paracast Jan. 18th 2009 )

David (host):
In my personal experiences, there are aspects of high strangeness that that have happened to me, in my experiences, that make me skeptical of my own experiences. Truly. And this has become a dilemma for me in my middle age. This has become a problem.

Leo (guest):
Same thing that Mike Clelland tells about himself, that he feels in a dilemma because on the one hand he knows he's had his experiences, (1:23:45) but on the other hand he cant reconcile that with what's going on around him and so it puts him in an awkward situation philosophically.

David:
Absolutely.

The synchronistic time matches right where Leo contemplates the two conflicting set of issues I’m dealing with. The relevant quote is: “...on the one hand he knows he’s had his experiences, (1:23:45) but on the other hand he can’t reconcile that...”

The curious time is exactly in between the the two contradictory sides of my present quandary. Weird.

Okay - I’m at the desk, looking at my transcript, and feeling like I’ve discovered a little clue in this bizarre issue.

I realize I was interviewed for an hour on another episode of THE PARACAST, so I scroll down to that, and I find the same time count of 1:23:45.

Here’s the excerpt below.

(Paracast Nov. 16th 2008 )

Mike:
“I remember waking up and there was a bright light filling the room, and my first thought was that it was the light in the driveway was on. So I sat up in bed, and I have an illustration of this posted, I sat up in bed and I looked out the window and I remember seeing (1:23:45) quite clearly, five, spindly, gray, alines with the big bald heads and the big black eyes standing outside my window.”

And again, the curious moment of the time count shows up at a very relevant point. I said: “I remember seeing (1:23:45) quite clearly...”

How much weight should I give these fleeting little synchronicities?





It keeps going.

I’m at the desk and this is sort of flustering me, and I realize that I show up twice in one of The Clueless One’s CULTURE OF CONTACT podcasts. He asks me a question, and later he mentions me during the wrap up. He takes a moment to thank me for the cartoon poster for the festival.

So, I search that out, and find the point where he mentions me in his show.

This podcast is shorter, only 45 mites long, so the same tidy number won’t show up. Here’s the transcript of the nice thank-you that I got on the episode.

Culture of Contact Podcast, Episode 51 (Oct. 23, 2008 )

I scrolled to a point early in this episode where Jeremy asks me (using his hand held recorder) a question at the Jersey City Theater. The transcript is below, and note the point where I mark the time.

Jeremy: “Mike, how was your stay in New York, and have you spoken to Budd Hopkins?”

Mike: “I just spoke to him a few minutes ago.”

Jeremy: “You did?”

Mike: “Yeah.”

Jeremy: “And was he scared off by the artwork?” (time 5:43)

Mike: “I think he said - uhhm - I think I was - I think the quote was, he hates stuff like this.”

Jeremy: (laughing loudly) “Awesome, that is a fantastic quote.”

Okay, later in the show my name comes up again, again the transcript is below, and again, note the point where I mark the time.

Jeremy: “I guess I just wanna say that Mike Clelland is a cool cat and I should be thanking him more for that awesome (43:21) cartoon ad, the culture of contact ad that he did, the one with the alien at the bar saying, ‘Same old crowd.’ Absolutely amazing, and a nice sweet guy in person.”

It shows up at 43:21, splitting the words: “awesome (43:21) cartoon”

Okay, I recognize how flighty all this seems. There was a frantic sort of compulsion as I looked into all of this, and there doesn’t seem to be any real point here. The only thing I can think of is what Leo says about synchronicities, that it’s a message to stay on the path.

It feels like a little whispering voice telling me to pay attention.

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