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October 18, 2015 — Dr. David Jacobs

Discussion in 'Talk About the Show' started by Gene Steinberg, Oct 18, 2015.



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  1. kruggutter

    kruggutter Paranormal Adept

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    What you say is so true, especially about unqualified commentary on complex topics. I also think what you concluded is true as well.
    Does acknowledging and responding to baiting and personal attacks help steer such discussions from going anywhere meaningful? In
    my opinion absolutely. The problem is drawing that fine line between defending oneself from attack and identifying and ignoring what
    truly doesn't need acknowledging (baseless personal attacks).

    I am all for civilised discussion, but at the same time I won't roll over if threatened or verbally abused.
     
  2. Gene Steinberg

    Gene Steinberg Forum Super Hero Staff Member

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    I've explained why Paul. She knew what she had to do to keep access.
     
  3. Gene Steinberg

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    And I see that having a civil discussion on this issue is impossible. The thread is closed.
     
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    Gene Steinberg Forum Super Hero Staff Member

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    But I do want to make final comments. I gather Burnt State is taking a breather after the emotional dust-ups, and I hope he'll be back stronger than ever.

    First and foremost, I don't know that anyone here wants to minimize the serious impact of possible sexual abuse. If some abductees are, in fact, victims of such abuse that is clothed in false memories about possible alien abductions, that is a matter for the authorities and skilled mental health professionals to handle. Lay researchers have no business getting involved in such cases. There has to be a set of rules of the road that will define the warning signs so the victims can get the help they need.

    I see that Emma Woods has completely overhauled her site, removing most of the voluminous material she previously posted, and leaving a "Coming Soon" label on a number of promised articles. The small number of new postings are clearly rewritten in a more accessible way, no doubt with the help of her supporters. Unfortunately, she glosses over her own abduction experiences and what led her therapist to suggest she contact abduction researchers on the other side of the world for help. Indeed you may not even know she was an abductee at all at first glance.

    The main contention about Dr. David Jacobs is that he is an incompetent researcher who used faulty methods that resulted in confabulated stories of extended and lurid encounters with aliens and alien hybrids/hubrids. By allowing his test subjects to freely share information, he created a closed loop system that resulted in a false narrative about a possible alien invasion. Some reviews of Dr. Jacobs' current book, "Walking Among Us," are linked or published at the site. These reviews essentially echo the complaints about his research methods.

    While reviews on Amazon are hardly an indication of the true value of a book, the reader reaction is far more positive than I expected. He receives mostly four and five-star reviews, with a handful of one-star reviews that essentially repeat the usual attacks. If you consider him to be a devil incarnate, you will be surprised at the scope of the detailed positive reviews. I was.

    Unfortunately, discussing anything about Jacobs in an open forum has become impossible. It's too polarized, which is why this thread has come to a close.

    We do, however, have an open forum about abductions, sexual abuse and sleep paralysis that covers some critically important issues. I hope we can continue to talk about these extremely important issues without the excess emotions and personal attacks:

    Alien Abductions, Child Sexual Abuse & Sleep Paralysis
     
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