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November 27, 2016 — Paul Kimball

In the episode, I mention briefly that the Shag Harbour incident from 1967 is currently the UFO case that I find the most interesting, and that at least part of the reason is that one of my best friends was a witness. Here is what I wrote about Ron's account a couple of years ago...

Ron Foley MacDonald is many things – one of the best and most knowledgeable film, music and theater critics in Canada; the senior programmer at the Atlantic Film Festival here in Halifax, Nova Scotia; an educator; a former musician during the heydays of the 1990s Halifax Pop Explosion who still writes songs for other artists. He’s also been a close friend for over two decades.

Ron shares my interest in the world of the paranormal (although perhaps not to the same extent). As Maritimers we were brought up with all tales of all sorts of things that go bump in the night, from ghost ships to will o’ the wisps. But Ron has something I don’t – a genuine UFO experience of his own, which happened near his home in Halifax on the same night in October, 1967, as the famous Shag Harbour UFO incident (Shag Harbour is about a three hour drive along the shore southwest from Halifax).



Over the years Ron has recounted his story to me on a few occasions, and I think he’s mentioned it a couple of times on radio (he appeared for years on CBC radio with arts and entertainment reports), but it’s not something that has circulated publicly beyond this region, so I asked him if he would care to write up a short report of what he and his young friends experienced back in 1967 as I think it adds some interesting perspective to the Shag story. He was kind enough to oblige.

On the early evening of October 4th, 1967, I was seven years old. It was a warm early fall evening, with the light just fading, 8;00 pm or so. I was with my friends from the street at number 10 Sherbrooke Drive, Halifax, (next to Mount St. Vincent University) near what we called ‘The Pipeline’. We noticed something strange happening, particularly sounds first. All sorts of alarms went off, police, fire, air raid sirens, and this was the first time I had heard the short-wave siren as opposed to the older long-wave alarms.

We noticed strange lights in the sky, streaking over Halifax, coming from Dartmouth going towards Chester and the South Shore. From where we were we had a good view of the Bedford Basin and the Narrows, overlooking the City Dump and where Africville was or had been.
The situation was something none of us – there were at least three or four kids all the same age – had ever seen or heard before.

After a few minutes, it became too intense and we all scattered. I was so scared I remember, very vividly, crawling underneath a car parked in the driveway. After a while, I scuttled home, not telling anyone in my family what had happened.

The next morning I distinctly remember the local paper, The Chronicle Herald, being full of reportage on the incident, including at least one story of animals having organs removed. The day after that, the paper withdrew its coverage and printed a story that it was ‘nothing’'.

The incident was the talk of the schoolyard for some days. This was only five years after the Cuban Missile Crisis, so Air-Raid drills still happened a couple times of year, and the threat of a nuclear exchange lingered, although not as pervasively as in the early 1960s.

This is my remembrance of the Shag Harbour UFO Incident, something that is imprinted on my mind quite sharply to this day.

Ron Foley MacDonald



Did Ron see space aliens over Halifax in 1967? Probably not… although who knows? But he definitely had a strange experience that left a deep impression on him, so much so that it remains vividly etched in his mind over forty years later. Others in Halifax and along the coast reported the strange lights as well, until they finally reached Shag Harbour late in the evening. Ron’s account is an important part of that broader narrative surrounding the events in the night sky over Nova Scotia on October 4, 1967 – a story that remains unsolved to this day.
 
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Still lots of old material to wade through. Unfortunately, a number of my old podcasts are on my previous computer - Dean Radin, Micah Hanks, Nick Pope, and Aaron Gulyas, for example - and I have to take it in, get the hard drive removed and put in a case, and then hook it up to my new computer. Hopefully this week. The Radin interview in particular was fascinating.
Drives are easy to remove, and if you're using full tower Windows PCs you can probably just install it as a second drive. No need for a case. It doesn't take long and wouldn't cost you anything. I've Done it myself lots of times.
 
I do believe he has you on ignore.
Really? I just thought that particular discussion had run it's course. After some further reflection, I wrote a piece in Philosophy Science & The Unexplained thread called Agnosticism In Ufology where I expose the weaknesses of Agnostic ideology from an analytical perspective, but pay him a compliment for its strength from a media reporting standpoint, the point being that both perspectives have value within their own context. In a way they even require each other if progress is to be made, but one methodology doesn't translate well to the other, so you can't wear both hats at the same time, and that's where the focal point of the disagreement was. Essentially it was an analyst and a reporter butting heads because the reporter, instead of being agnostic as claimed, was making judgement calls on the analysis. I would expect to be similarly outclassed if I had tried to suggest how he should produce his films.
 
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When stationed out of Brunswick Naval Air Station (in Maine), I had to fly to Nova Scotia for several days to execute a secret mission. We were flying out of of a Canadian military installation and living in a mom & pop motel in town somewhere. I was trying to figure out what the name was of the military base I was at. Any suggestions?

By the way; a piece of useless information about myself; I was born at Paul Kimball Hospital in Lakewood, NJ.
 
Drives are easy to remove, and if you're using full tower Windows PCs you can probably just install it as a second drive. No need for a case. It doesn't take long and wouldn't cost you anything. I've Done it myself lots of times.

I have also done this myself on a PC, however it is a risk if you are not familiar with the procedure, and as I think the information contained on the drive sounds "valuable" maybe getting a pro to do it would be better in this case.

Or another alternative is to get purchase an external HD or large "memory stick" and copy the entire drive before removing it.
 
When stationed out of Brunswick Naval Air Station (in Maine), I had to fly to Nova Scotia for several days to execute a secret mission. We were flying out of of a Canadian military installation and living in a mom & pop motel in town somewhere. I was trying to figure out what the name was of the military base I was at. Any suggestions?

By the way; a piece of useless information about myself; I was born at Paul Kimball Hospital in Lakewood, NJ.


can you remember any landmarks?

e.g. lakes, towns or even mountains?

Maybe looking on google maps in satellite mode could jog your memory.

the link below should take you to google maps in satellite mode centered on nova Scotia, any problems let me know.

Google Maps
 
When stationed out of Brunswick Naval Air Station (in Maine), I had to fly to Nova Scotia for several days to execute a secret mission. We were flying out of of a Canadian military installation and living in a mom & pop motel in town somewhere. I was trying to figure out what the name was of the military base I was at. Any suggestions?

By the way; a piece of useless information about myself; I was born at Paul Kimball Hospital in Lakewood, NJ.
What town?
 
I have also done this myself on a PC, however it is a risk if you are not familiar with the procedure, and as I think the information contained on the drive sounds "valuable" maybe getting a pro to do it would be better in this case. Or another alternative is to get purchase an external HD or large "memory stick" and copy the entire drive before removing it.
The pros might be needed if the drive is encrypted, in which case it won't be accessible without knowing how. That's fairly easy if you know the login credentials though. Twice I've been given drives to recycle because the Geek Squad ( a mobile PC repair outfit up here ) told them their data was irretrievable. In one case the drive was damaged, but the data was retrievable, and in the second case, the drive was totally fine except for a couple of file system errors. You can't always trust the so-called pros.
 
I have also done this myself on a PC, however it is a risk if you are not familiar with the procedure, and as I think the information contained on the drive sounds "valuable" maybe getting a pro to do it would be better in this case.

Or another alternative is to get purchase an external HD or large "memory stick" and copy the entire drive before removing it.

I never have a problem with paying someone to do something that they know how to do much better than I do, particularly when it comes to computers. I've learned not to mess around with that stuff.
 
What town?
That's the thing; I don't remember as this was around 1992 or so. I'm not sure how many military airfields there are in NS. Maybe I can see where the Canadian Aurora aircraft are stationed in NS. Now that I think of it, there were Aurora aircraft there (the planes I flew in are Lockheed P-3C Orion's - when Canada buys them from the U.S., they outfit it with some different gear and it get's redesignated as a CP-140 Aurora). These are primarily antisubmarine warfare planes but can be used in other types of missions such as SAR & drug interdiction.
 
That's the thing; I don't remember as this was around 1992 or so. I'm not sure how many military airfields there are in NS. Maybe I can see where the Canadian Aurora aircraft are stationed in NS. Now that I think of it, there were Aurora aircraft there (the planes I flew in are Lockheed P-3C Orion's - when Canada buys them from the U.S., they outfit it with some different gear and it get's redesignated as a CP-140 Aurora). These are primarily antisubmarine warfare planes but can be used in other types of missions such as SAR & drug interdiction.

There are two primary military airfields in Nova Scotia - CFB Greenwood, and CFB Shearwater. If you landed in a more rural area, it was Greenwood, which is in the Annapolis Valley; if it was in a large urban area, it was Shearwater, which is on the outskirts of Halifax.

If you saw Auroras, I suspect it was Greenwood.
 
great show, i hadn't realized that Paul is an historian. i think it would be interesting to have both Paul & Richard Dolan on a round table show. two historians perspectives.

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great show, i hadn't realized that Paul is an historian. i think it would be interesting to have both Paul & Richard Dolan on a round table show. two historians perspectives.

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I think that one falls under the "when hell freezes over category," because I think Dolan is a lousy historian.

If you want a good historian (and one I'm always happy to chat with), who has an interest in the world of the weird, I recommend Aaron John Gulyas, an associate professor of history at Mott Community College in Michigan who has written a number of scholarly works on the UFO subculture. I'm recording a new episode of The Other Side of Truth next Monday with him to talk about the MIB mythos, along with whatever else pops up. It will be up on The Paracast+ by the end of next week.
 
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