Kenn 'The Shill' Thomas

[DaveM]

Good Lord! Not only was Kenn Thomas all over the map with his conspiracy theories, we had to listen to him shilling his Amazon-only book. Kindly give us a break Kenn. After listening to his ramblings and that silly giggling laugh of his, I wouldn't go near any book he wrote.

 

[jase]

I didn't really like that guest either. His conspiracy theories all seemed pretty half-baked and the connections that he threw out there between individuals and TV shows or whatever didn't really go anywhere and were not supported by any further evidence. He didn't seem very credible or convincing to me. He came off more of a teller of tall tales.

I did like his suggestion for Gene to try to interview the daughter of Kenneth Arnold. I bet that would make for an interesting show.

About-Kim

 

[Ezechiel]

One good thing about this show is that it reminded everybody that the JFK 50 year lock-up is over in November of this year.... NOT !
Assassination of John F. Kennedy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Assassination Records Review Board

TheAssassination Records Review Boardwas not commissioned to make any findings or conclusions. Its purpose was to release documents to the public in order to allow the public to draw its own conclusions. From 1992 until 1998, the Assassination Records Review Board gathered and unsealed about 60,000 documents, consisting of over 4 million pages.[133][134]All remaining documents are to be released by 2017.
The remaining Kennedy assassination related documents are scheduled to be released to the public by 2017, twenty-five years after the passage of the JFK Records Act. The Kennedy autopsy photographs and X-rays were never part of the Warren Commission records and were deeded separately to the National Archives by the Kennedy family in 1966 under restricted conditions


.... What is being disclosed this year ? Am I missing something ?

Thomas is right on a few points though... a 75 year seal on JFK documents raises serious doubts on the real motivations behind the official stance :

The unpublished portion of those records was initially sealed for 75 years (to 2039) under a general National Archives policy that applied to all federal investigations by the executive branch of government,[123] a period "intended to serve as protection for innocent persons who could otherwise be damaged because of their relationship with participants in the case

The bigger picture is probably closer to a snake pit of vested interests of the so-called 'military-industrial complex' (vietnam war), Cuban exiles (Bay of pigs), links to Mafia (JFK father), Unions (Hoffa), White supremacists (against civil rights).... etc...

The bigger question here... why would a president expose himself in the 'gun-rights' capital of the planet, in an era of extreme social tension and severe international conflict (war against communism...etc).

Whoever was counselling the president (security) was braindead if you ask me... or was intimately linked to a coup. Makes no sense at all.


Oh yeah... Bob Dylan at the Superbowl ?.... NOT !!!
Bob Dylan replaces Beyoncé as Super Bowl halftime performer, or so says Tim Heidecker | Music | Great Job, Internet! | The A.V. Club

 

[Will Penguin]

Good Lord! Not only was Kenn Thomas all over the map with his conspiracy theories, we had to listen to him shilling his Amazon-only book. Kindly give us a break Kenn. After listening to his ramblings and that silly giggling laugh of his, I wouldn't go near any book he wrote.

Is it really that unreasonable for a guest on a radio program with a book out to take a minute or two to mention the book? That isn't exactly unheard of.

I though it was a pretty entertaining show. Thomas does cast a pretty darn wide net at times, but some of the bizarre "coincidences" he mention are pretty wild. The Paracast has had worse guests, that's for sure!

 

[Gene Steinberg]

Rather than just attack him because he's a long-time conspiracy theorist, let's focus on the actual issues involved. Kennedy assassination, Maury Island, etc. Where do you folks find fault? Just labeling him as something or other doesn't count.

 

[jase]

I like conspiracy theories and I do not attack someone because they are a long-time conspiracy theorist. But I think there is a danger in connecting the dots between people and events and then claiming that there must be some sort of meaningful cause and effect connection as a result. What is that game in which one can connect everyone in the world through so many degrees of Kevin Bacon? The human brain has evolved to recognize patterns and see shapes in clouds and a face on Mars and to determine cause and effect in a wide range of phenomena and events.

One thing that disturbed me about the guest was a typical leftist or anti-American worldview that somehow the U.S. government must have been complicit in the 9-11 attacks and that, as the guest puts it, "blaming an arab culture" is something that we shouldn't do. I mean, what? 9-11 was in fact a fascinating and complex Islamist conspiracy that stretches back to the late 1980s and the blind Sheikh Omar Abdel Rakhman and Ramzi Yousef. Osama Bin Laden and Khaled Sheikh Mohammed followed up on the ideas of Ramzi Yousef concerning hijacking jetliners and crashing them into buildings, to finish the task that the first World Trade Center Attack failed to do. There has been some very good research on this subject, and some very good books. The Looming Towers is one book, and there are many others. Most of the cover-ups related to 9-11 were motivated by people in the government wishing to conceal the gross incompetence that allowed the hijackers to enter to the USA and carry out their plot, despite there being plenty of opportunities to disrupt the plot if the FBI and CIA had shared information and done their job.

I also thought that the guest's opining on gun control and the second amendment at around the 2 hour mark was poorly thought out and full of falsehoods and polemics, such as the statement that "the only thing that we can kill are schoolchildren and each other." He also said that the debate over the Second Amendment was "irrelevant."

 

[Gene Steinberg]

Claiming the U.S. government was complicit in 9-11 isn't a "typical leftist" point of view. And if you want to equate leftist with "anti American," you are really off the rails. It may be, as is claimed, that the intelligence and law enforcement officials in the "W" admin didn't connect the dots, or just failed to take the warnings seriously, and there were a number of warnings. At worst, that can be construed as incompetence rather than a deliberate act of betrayal.

As to the second amendment, I think part of the problem here is that most people have never read the full amendment, and not just the single phrase the gun lobby has seized. More to the point, I have no problem with people buying guns, if there are no legal issues or mental health issues, although I think there ought to be some training so people don't accidentally shoet the wrong person, or a person when they are aiming for a target or they're deer hunting. We require training for cars, because they can cause immense damage to the driver, passengers, or other people and their property if not handled properly. Why not with a gun?

I won't get into the assault weapons argument, since I am not one to use guns. But more thorough background checks, and a centralized database may help prevent some of this gun violence. I also don't see why gun violence in the U.S. is so much worse than other developed nations. Doesn't that raise a red flag? Doesn't that demonstrate something has to change?

 

[Ezechiel]

The focus on this 'Fred Crisman' character is fascinating.
Fred Crisman - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

From Maury island to JFK to the Marilyn Monroe suicide and the later Robert Kennedy assassination. Coincidence or structured events that kept the cover from flying out of control ?

No question that WWII was an intense period in human history. If you examine the evolution of WWII, you realize that Hitler and Roosevelt were waging an improvised technological war with potentially disastrous consequences for humanity as a whole. From sonars and radars to nukes, these developments would have directly impacted any race of beings (local or alien lol) that had vested interests in planet earth.

Someone like Fred Crisman could possibly have been used to protect the 'vested interests' of entities we are supposed to know nothing about

 

[pixelsmith]

Claiming the U.S. government was complicit in 9-11 isn't a "typical leftist" point of view. And if you want to equate leftist with "anti American," you are really off the rails. It may be, as is claimed, that the intelligence and law enforcement officials in the "W" admin didn't connect the dots, or just failed to take the warnings seriously, and there were a number of warnings. At worst, that can be construed as incompetence rather than a deliberate act of betrayal.

As to the second amendment, I think part of the problem here is that most people have never read the full amendment, and not just the single phrase the gun lobby has seized. More to the point, I have no problem with people buying guns, if there are no legal issues or mental health issues, although I think there ought to be some training so people don't accidentally shoet the wrong person, or a person when they are aiming for a target or they're deer hunting. We require training for cars, because they can cause immense damage to the driver, passengers, or other people and their property if not handled properly. Why not with a gun?

I won't get into the assault weapons argument, since I am not one to use guns. But more thorough background checks, and a centralized database may help prevent some of this gun violence. I also don't see why gun violence in the U.S. is so much worse than other developed nations. Doesn't that raise a red flag? Doesn't that demonstrate something has to change?

We know the 9/11 facts, 2 planes knocked down 3 buildings and a jumbo jet lumbered thru protected air space, folded its wings and 2 engines back so it could skim the grassy lawn and squeeze into a hole 16 ft in diameter. The 9/11 events were the result of 99 cent box cutters being allowed to be purchased by anyone.. afer 9/11 no one even proposed legislation for box cutter control. No one considered arming our forces with these magical edged weapons either... imagine what our military could accomplish if every soldier was outfitted with a couple dozen box cutters! I am considering getting a pistol grip and high capacity blade magazines for mine... I might even paint it black.

 

[DaveM]

Kenn Thomas tried to tie Fred Crisman to JFK, RFK, Marilyn Monroe and Maury Island. That's a bit of a stretch in my view. Show us some hard evidence Kenn. Secondly, let's just say that Crisman was involved in all these events, he was still a trigger man. Who is the group or person pulling the strings? It still boils down to Thomas not having much hard evidence and speculating to his heart's content. That doesn't make much of a book to me.

 

[Derik]

I just had to add my thoughts on the gun control points made by a couple of people. First off, the only people who will follow stricter gun control laws are law abiding people. Criminals don't get their guns from the store where background checks are performed. They usually get them from the black market or through theft. Secondly, far more people die every year from daily shootings in the U. S. than in mass shootings. Where is the outcry for those shootings? Thirdly, almost every mass shooting in the U.S. since around the 30's or so was performed in gun free zones. Gun control laws didn't help at all. Fourthly, the term "assault weapon" has been completely made up to give the general public the idea that rifles like an AR-15 is extremely deadly. It is no more deadly than your average hunting rifle no matter how mean it looks, and it is nothing like the weapons used by our troops in the military. I was a small arms tech in the Marines for 7 years. I haved worked with everything from a 9mm pistol to an 80mm mortar. Rifles in the military are semi automatic (one round per trigger squeeze) with an optional 3 round burst setting (3 rounds per trigger squeeze). Then we also have fully automatic machine guns and sub machine guns which fire continuously until you stop pulling the trigger. These weapons are not legal to own by a civilian. Fifthly, reducing magazine capacity does nothing to criminals, especially if you realize how easy it is to fabricate a magazine from scratch, or to just tape two magazines together for fast reload. The only thing stricter gun control laws will do is further endanger our law abiding citizens. That is all I will say on the topic, thank you for letting me voice my opinion.

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[Ezechiel]

I just had to add my thoughts on the gun control points made by a couple of people. First off, the only people who will follow stricter gun control laws are law abiding people.

That's the obvious...

Gun control: The gun control that works: no guns | The Economist

...Thus the simple idea that if there are less guns around you reduce the probability of being shot by one.

As an example, the tobacco issue is finally being addressed because hospitals are now pressured with a massive 'baby boomer' influx of patients suffering from tobacco related sicknesses. With the health system threatened, the solution was massive add campaigns, taxes on tobacco products and billion-dollar law suits. Reducing the pressure on the health system by making sure the next generation is not enslaved by tobacco products is a good idea.

The challenge here is finding a solution that will effectively reduce the probability of being shot by a gun. The NRA offers the obvious self-interested solution: 'More guns for the good guys'

At this moment, if you take the guns away from the 'good guys (law abiding people)' you create an obvious imbalance with the 'bad guys' in a country where 300 million guns are circulating. I don't see a solution to this mess... Move to Canada ? LOL

Woman Pulls Gun at Chuck E Cheese: Cops | NBC Connecticut
... and good luck with your Chuck E Cheese woman ROFL

...as a side note... are there that many 'bad guys' to justify so many guns ? If so, then more power to the NRA and maybe one day you'll have gotten rid of all those nasty people.

 

[Derik]

Unfortunately, as long as evil exists in this world we will never be free from crime. When might evil finally be vanquished? Never in this world.

 

[Ezechiel]

Unfortunately, as long as evil exists in this world we will never be free from crime. When might evil finally be vanquished? Never in this world.

This is a dimension about the USA that foreigners don't quite grasp to its fullest: 'protecting yourself from evil and how evil is actually defined in different areas'.

In some rural areas, you're dealing with a definition of evil forged by fundamentalist christian ideology. Take this extreme example of a god warrior (trading wives) lol.

Its almost a given that this family is equipped to the teeth with NRA approved guns to protect itself from 'dork-sided' individuals. ... lol You'd need a tactical squad to remove guns from these guys.

For Christians, Gun Control Should Be a No-Brainer. Why Isn’t It?

When it comes to gun violence, Christians too often either say nothing, or parrot a conservative political position embodied by the NRA and others who, all evidence to the contrary, insist that guns in the hands of law-abiding citizens are more likely to prevent senseless violence than enable it. (Some far-right Christian folk insist on the right to arm themselves against a government intent on destroying religion and oppressing its citizens.)

Now that you bring this up. I now think the only solution is education... as the beloved G.W. Bush once said...

Rarely is the question asked: Is our children learning?

 

[Derik]

I saw that episode of trading wives. Lol. I don't think I would ever hold that lady up as an example of a poster Christian. Heck, I wouldn't even hold myself up as an example. But that lady was just nuts!

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[jase]

Claiming the U.S. government was complicit in 9-11 isn't a "typical leftist" point of view. And if you want to equate leftist with "anti American," you are really off the rails. It may be, as is claimed, that the intelligence and law enforcement officials in the "W" admin didn't connect the dots, or just failed to take the warnings seriously, and there were a number of warnings. At worst, that can be construed as incompetence rather than a deliberate act of betrayal.

As to the second amendment, I think part of the problem here is that most people have never read the full amendment, and not just the single phrase the gun lobby has seized. More to the point, I have no problem with people buying guns, if there are no legal issues or mental health issues, although I think there ought to be some training so people don't accidentally shoet the wrong person, or a person when they are aiming for a target or they're deer hunting. We require training for cars, because they can cause immense damage to the driver, passengers, or other people and their property if not handled properly. Why not with a gun?

I won't get into the assault weapons argument, since I am not one to use guns. But more thorough background checks, and a centralized database may help prevent some of this gun violence. I also don't see why gun violence in the U.S. is so much worse than other developed nations. Doesn't that raise a red flag? Doesn't that demonstrate something has to change?

I think that you made a fair criticism of my statement. I will try to be more accurate. Of the people who believe or suspect that 9-11 was an inside job, many of them tend to have what I would define as an anti-American worldview. This worldview sees the USA as a nation that owes its wealth and power to imperialism and causing wars in many parts of the world and rapacious capitalism and exploiting 3rd world nations, and perhaps other historical crimes such as slavery and genocide against Native Americans. A lot of these views are also prevalent among people who self-identify on the political left, whether they are liberals, democrats, socialists, marxists, etc. I think that I was wrong to state that the typical leftist believes in 9-11 inside-job theories. Some do, but most do not.

There are also people on the libertarian or anarchist or racist end of the political spectrum such as some of the Ron Paul supporters and Alex Jones fans who believe that the U.S. government stages false flag attacks on a regular basis and commits mass murder against innocent people in commercial jets and office buildings and at the Pentagon, in order to manipulate public opinion and engage in foreign wars. These people also tend to have many negative views about the role of the USA in the world and at home.

I am not trying to turn this forum into a political debate and I will try to refrain from commenting on the political content of Paracast shows in the future. I don't mind listening to political views that are the opposite of my own. It does annoy me a bit when people who insist that 9-11 had government support or acquiescence refuse to learn anything about the actual history of Islamist terror plots against targets in the USA since before the first WTC bombing until today.

 

[pixelsmith]

yup... they are the perfect people to blame it on. it is sort of like when you fart and blame it on the dog.

 

[Derik]

yup... they are the perfect people to blame it on. it is sort of like when you fart and blame it on the dog.

I am sorry, this isn't a funny topic, but I had to LOL at that comment. My co-workers are staring at me now.

 

[Ezechiel]

I saw that episode of trading wives. Lol. I don't think I would ever hold that lady up as an example of a poster Christian. Heck, I wouldn't even hold myself up as an example. But that lady was just nuts!

That lady freaked me out when I first saw her lol. The exorcist (1973 version) is only a few terror bars above this !! ... but it kind of proves a point. If that kind of 'mentality' or rationale really exists in real life, then you absolutely need protection. Get the biggest gun available ROFL.

Freedom should have some limits though... If Germany, of all places, can keep Scientology kooks in check... why doesn't the US emulate?
... and then review all those brainwashing sects...

 

[wwkirk]

Of all conspiracy theories, I think the one that says the JFK assassination was a conspiracy is well supported.