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its time for a show dedicated to the GULF BREEZE UFO FLAP

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They've talked about the Gulf Breeze photos while interviewing Dr. Maccabee. I came away from that show a little concerned that they felt some of the photos were legit. I listened to that archived show shortly after reading Kevin Randle's book The Randle Report: UFOs in the '90s, where he does a great job of poking all sorts of holes in the whole Gulf Breeze business.

If Gene and Dave do a show on the photos, I hope they have Kevin on to share the concerns he has with those and the story as a whole.

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I think the evidence presented by Maccabee (and other sources e.g. the on-site interviews of Gulf Breeze residents and newspaper editor shown in Unsolved Mysteries who said they saw the same object with their lying eyes), suggest that there was a wave of UFO sightings in GB FL and at least some of Ed Walters' photos are legit.

I don't give much credence to the story about "paper model UFO, left at Walters' old home when he moved out, only to be 'discovered' by some boy", it looks to me like a frame job.

WRT Kevin Randle, my feeling was that he was trying to position himself as a "distinguishing Ufologist" by rejecting as many "controversial" cases as possible, but only stand his ground in the case of Roswell.
 
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I think the evidence presented by Maccabee (and other sources e.g. the on-site interviews of Gulf Breeze residents and newspaper editor shown in Unsolved Mysteries who said they saw the same object with their lying eyes), suggest that there was a wave of UFO sightings in GB FL and at least some of Ed Walters' photos are legit.

I don't give much credence to the story about "paper model UFO, left at Walters' old home when he moved out, only to be 'discovered' by some boy", it looks to me like a frame job.

WRT Kevin Randle, my feeling was that he was trying to position himself as a "distinguishing Ufologist" by rejecting as many "controversial" cases as possible, but only stand his ground in the case of Roswell.
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A boy found the model? I don't recall that. Thought it was a man, the owner of the home. Found it behind a furnace. There was a boy involved with saying Ed hoaxed things. Like the ground trace case.

Anyway, I've been wanting someone to interview Ed's daughter. She's an adult now and I'm curious what all she has to say. Francis, Ed's former wife still sticks by the story as far as I know.
 
Hi, everyone...

I’m wondering if anyone could point me in the right direction. I’d like to know what the final word on the Gulf Breeze Sightings was (or, if there ever was a “final word” or definitive conclusion to the case). I read the Ed Walters books way back when, and I know about the allegations of a hoax... but is that what the majority of people now believe? Is that the majority consensus – it was all a big hoax and an embarrassment for the investigators? Did anyone write an article that conclusively stripped the Gulf Breeze event(s) apart and demonstrated the high probability of a hoax?

Is Jerry Black the “final word” on it...?

If not, I’d appreciate some direction on where to look for that.

At its peak, the Gulf Breeze Incident(s) attracted a lot of attention and quite a few notable, highly respectable people backed up Walters’s claims (e.g. Bruce Maccabee vouched for the authenticity of his Polaroid pictures). Although Walters was the so-called nexus at Gulf Breeze, he wasn’t the only one who claimed to have seen things in the sky. Was there anything really going on there?

Personally, I’m leaning towards it being a hoax, but I’m not a hundred percent all the way there in my own mind.
I suggested to Gene a few years back that a Paracast episode on Gulf Breeze (in which the case could be dissected) would be interesting but Gene didn’t think so.

Thoughts anyone?
 
Wow, ancient thread! I'm interested in the Gulf Breeze story, but just know the highlights. Supposedly there was a lot more to it than just "Mr. Ed," but he's contaminated everything.
What I'm uncertain about is: Did things start with Ed, or did he just capitalize on sightings in the area with his photo conspiracy?
 
I remember when I first saw the cover of Walters's first Gulf Breeze book - with his famous (infamous?) photo - I thought, what a stupid-looking UFO - an obvious fake - but then I read the book and found it very compelling (at the time I was 19). If he hoaxed all the pics and cooked up that story completely...then he was a very talented hoaxer. Maybe one of the best in this field. He roped in Maccabee, Hopkins and I can't remember who else off hand. I think it's worth a Paracast episode. How many times do we have to listen to more Roswell stuff when there's this to tear apart?
 
Walter's wasn't the only witness, Maccabee even saw something strange. Numerous people saw and recorded a variety of things in the sky. Maccabee's investigation of the photos led him to believe they were genuine. Ed's construction of the stereo camera at the Maccabee's instruction paints him in a highly cooperative light. The whole affair cost him a great deal of business and may have contributed to his divorce, I'm not sure. If he faked it all it was a well orchestrated flight of lunacy for sure.
 
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Walter's wasn't the only witness, Maccabee even saw something strange. Numerous people saw and recorded a variety of things in the sky. Maccabee's investigation of the photos led him to believe they were genuine. Ed's construction of the stereo camera at the Maccabee's instruction paints him in a highly cooperative light. The whole affair cost him a great deal of business and may have contributed to his divorce, I'm not sure. If he faked it all it was a will orchestrated flight of lunacy for sure.
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So, why doesn't the Paracast do an episode on it...?
 
A show dedicated to Gulf Breeze sounds like a great idea.

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Wow, ancient thread! I'm interested in the Gulf Breeze story, but just know the highlights. Supposedly there was a lot more to it than just "Mr. Ed," but he's contaminated everything.
What I'm uncertain about is: Did things start with Ed, or did he just capitalize on sightings in the area with his photo conspiracy?
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Good points. The history of this phenomenon is of something real and recurrent almost always surrounded by either intentional or incidental nonsense.
 
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Here’s a video I’m sure most of you have seen with Bruce Maccabee and Bob Oechsler singing the praises of Ed Walters’s videos. Some of the footage is really compelling… and one (not attributed to Walters) that looks lame as hell.

If Gene and Chris could round up a panel of guests that could objectively take this case apart… I think it would be a fascinating listening experience.
Especially if they could get Maccabee to come on. I’m dying to know what his current opinions on this case are – and of Walters, himself.

Did Walters just get fed up with getting dragged through the mud and being framed for hoaxing it all - and decided to get the hell out of Dodge? Was he coming down with “Streiber-iosis” (a parasitic infection that causes one to believe emphatically in his/her own increasingly bizarre fantasies)? Or, is he a slippery, shady character who made a few bucks and bowed out?

Is the Gulf Breeze Incident currently a case of “throwing the baby out with the bathwater” as Chris likes to say?
Perhaps this is a case that’s worth more scrutiny?
I don’t know, but I’d love for the Paracast to take a shot at it all.
 
As a footnote to this discussion, and to try to get Gene on board,
Gulf Breeze was Jim Moseley's last "field investigation." He visited with the Walters and became friendly with them. (Part of this is covered in JM's book.) Jim also wrote an article on the case that appeared in Caveat Emptor while the case was still active and before he'd made his final conclusion on the case- hoax.

Another point he mentioned to me that Ed was unchanged by the incident and just went on his way afterwards. Almost every other person he'd met who'd had an experience underwent some transformation or awakening. To Jim, this was a sign that there was no encounter.
 
My first recollection of the Gulf Breeze flap was the daytime video of the on-its-side diamond shaped light off in the distance, and how I thought it was suspicious that it only showed up at high magnification. Subsequently, it was determined that the light was not an object in the sky, but an artifact caused by the iris motor in the camera when the unit was zoomed out to maximum. Consequently, it was obvious that the hoopla surrounding the video was staged in order to lead people to assume the artifact was something it wasn't. Then came the photos and the subsequent rumors of a hoax, followed by someone finding a mock-up of the craft that may have been used to fabricate the photos. The whole thing then took on an Eduard Meier halo and I haven't paid much attention to it since. However that doesn't mean that there haven't been some interesting sightings over the years in and around Florida. It's also how I learned that there is supposedly a military base on an island off the coast where secret stuff goes on, sometimes referred to as "The Other Area 51".
 
There was a special on one of the networks I saw when I was a kid about gulf breeze and the aviary (maybe there were 2 different specials that got conflated in my mind. But it caused me to become interested in ufos. I would love a show about it.

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