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Honestly, the only thing I think we can do about it is to remain as intellectually honest as possible. I know that can annoy people (even on these forums) sometimes but the truth is sometimes just the truth.I'm totally with you and was just trying to lighten things a little. We can do that because although there is a faction that might think even I'm too far "out there" I don't think I'm so far gone that I've lost touch with reality, and I would say the same for yourself. How it is that people go over the edge I'm not sure, and it would be interesting to see if we can figure out why and do something about it.
The truth is, sometimes people lie. And the truth is, sometimes people get so lost in the lies that they make insane decisions. Heaven's Gate is an example of this. The UFO and other 'New Age' stuff all seems like love and light and then people lose track of what is demonstrably true vs what could be true vs what is just insane. And then people get hurt or die.
This field is not at all different than the conspiracy thinking that brought on QAnon. Not at all. The only difference is that we have had fewer people use the nonsense to seek power at the cost of other people's lives. But that's non-zero given the UFO cults and Bennewitz. Those are the warning shots.
I profoundly disagree.In that regard, it seems that one of the key factors in promoting a positive change is not to drive the opposition into a frame of mind where they dig themselves in further, and that's what I was getting at by being fair-minded, and using some emotional intelligence. My efforts in that regard have not been entirely successful, but I have made some progress.
That strategy is simple appeasement. I've seen it with Trump supporters I know - you get told over and over again to be polite and hear them out otherwise you'll alienate them further.
This is the wrong approach. The right approach is a complete and total denial of the falsehoods, the conspiracies, the nonsense. Even if it's impolite or anti-social. Non-voilently of course, but it must end.
I don't care about getting through to them. I don't care about reaching out. They don't want to be reached. They don't want to be reasonable. They want appeasement, because that's the way you slowly move the needle over to insanity.The problem is that if we were to Venn diagram it, some people are completely in their own bubble, or what @Gene Steinberg calls being on Earth 2. I'm not sure how we can get through to them, or if we should even try. Maybe the best we can do is persuade some of those who are drifting a little too far into the twilight zone not to go so far that they get lost.
Drunk driving is no longer socially acceptable. Smoking around children is no longer socially acceptable. And so many other things... which have actually moved the needle. Simply because it's no longer socially acceptable.
Wear a MAGA hat around me now, and I'm not going to be any quieter about it than I would be a Nazi symbol.
Hmm... very cool idea. Any idea about the time commitment?On participating in the show, I've got a couple of ideas I'll run past Gene. How would feel about being a relief cohost? Or perhaps doing a weekly short segment where you present your views on these issues? I can't promise anything, but we're kicking these sorts of ideas around. We had Puckett for a while, but he bailed. We're also looking at the Debrief guys.
Same for that one. Covid and work has really driven my life nuts - working a lot more hours for a lot less money - but this is something I'm fairly passionate about as you know.One thing that would be really helpful is to have a guest coordinator, and if you were doing that, you'd literally have control of who would appear on the show, and you could choose those you feel are the best according to your criteria. It's easy to say we'd like to make a difference, but actually doing something about it is harder. So I understand if that's too big an ask, but the opportunity is there if you want it.