Gaza and The Loss of Civilization

[Richard Hawkins]

Israel have overreached on many an occasion and the international community needs to step in and put an end to it, however Hammas has used these victims for propaganda. It still does not change the fact. Gazza is a Terrorist run state.

 

[Tyger]

Hammas has used these victims for propaganda. It still does not change the fact: Gaza is a Terrorist run state.

Yes, I have been 'impressed' with the propaganda this time round. I have been down this rabbit hole for decades and can no longer abide the psyops. My eyes were opened on this when I came across the Promethean Action folks - and the whole history of 'The City of London', and the switcheroo that took place at the beginning of the 20th century was laid out in a way that made sense and I could follow. A lot of questions answered. The issue is about creating peace not fomenting war. Don't take sides - if one does, one has fallen for the psyops, and the game is on.

Israel has been manipulated by its handler as much as the Gazans have by Hammas. Their respective handler is - in fact - the same entity. They are both being used to stir conflict - and we as the observers play into the handlers' game when we take sides. The game is on. Conflict wins.

I offer this recent Promethean Update as good as any to get a sense of what has been afoot and what remedies are being applied to the mess.

Nixon's Revenge: Trump Just Ended the Kissinger Doctrine — And Britain Knows It
Published June 29, 2026: [Video Run Time 14:04] Promethean Updates
"Susan Kokinda argues that Vice President JD Vance’s Nixon Library remarks about a 'deep state' targeting Nixon and Trump point to a deeper fight over U.S. foreign policy: an American tradition of ending wars versus Henry Kissinger’s British 'balance of power' doctrine of managing conflict.

"Kokinda links Eisenhower ending Korea and stopping the 1956 Suez seizure, and William Rogers’ post–Six-Day War comprehensive peace proposal, to Trump’s Abraham Accords, contrasting them with Kissinger’s rise after Watergate, the collapse of Rogers’ plan, and renewed Middle East wars, including Lebanon’s descent into civil war after Kissinger-era maneuvering.

"Kokinda highlights April 14, 2026 talks involving Lebanese and Israeli ambassadors with Secretary Rubio and a June 26 trilateral framework for ending the conflict. She also cites June 23 White Sands directed-energy tests and Trump’s January 2025 'Golden Dome' order as reversing Kissinger’s ABM/MAD legacy and pushing U.S. industrial revival toward assured defense and lasting peace."

TIMESTAMPS
00:00 Nixon's Revenge: Trump Just Ended the Kissinger Doctrine - And Britain Knows It
01:34 Two Foreign Policies: American Development vs British Perpetual War
05:05 Kissinger’s Doctrine in Action: How Lebanon Was Broken
08:54 New Mexico: The Stake Through the Heart of MAD

 

[Randall]

Israel have overreached on many an occasion and the international community needs to step in and put an end to it, however Hammas has used these victims for propaganda. It still does not change the fact. Gazza is a Terrorist run state.

If by "terrorist run" you mean run by people who have committed acts of terror, crimes against humanity, and genocide — then the damage done by anyone in Gaza ( including the Islamic Resistance Movement ) to their oppressors in Israel pales in comparison to the grotesque disproportionate overkill of the Israeli IDF — over 20,000 CHILDREN in Gaza alone ( to date ) plus doctors, teachers, humanitarian aid workers, journalists, defenseless mothers, and citizens who want no part of the war.

 

[Richard Hawkins]

If by "terrorist run" you mean run by people who have committed acts of terror, crimes against humanity, and genocide — then the damage done by anyone in Gaza ( including the Islamic Resistance Movement ) to their oppressors in Israel pales in comparison to the grotesque disproportionate overkill of the Israeli IDF.

Bullshit.

 

[Randall]

Bullshit.

Naturally — The confessions of IDF soldiers themselves, live reporting, UN investigations, Amnesty International, World court of Justice, and scholarly documentation are all just "bullshit", "fake news" — just like this photo . . .

Israel has committed genocide in Gaza, UN commission of inquiry says

The panel finds that four of the five genocidal acts defined under international law have been carried out against Palestinians during the war.

www.bbc.com

 

[Richard Hawkins]

Naturally — The confessions of IDF soldiers themselves, live reporting, UN investigations, Amnesty International, World court of Justice, and scholarly documentation are all just "bullshit", "fake news" — just like this photo . . .

Israel has committed genocide in Gaza, UN commission of inquiry says

The panel finds that four of the five genocidal acts defined under international law have been carried out against Palestinians during the war.

www.bbc.com

I don't care Randall. Until atrocities that are carried out against Israeli nationals are treated with the same sympathy as those carried out by the IDF I don't give a shit. And I am not a Jew.

 

[Randall]

I don't care Randall. Until atrocities that are carried out against Israeli nationals are treated with the same sympathy as those carried out by the IDF I don't give a shit. And I am not a Jew.

If only the world had more people like you who "don't give a shit" and "don't care" — everything would be all lollipops and rainbows.
After all — complaining on a dead forum like this really is useless ( seriously ) — nobody cares.
So sit back and watch some sports ( or whatever matters to you ) — really enjoy not caring or giving a shit.
Hell — why not take it a step further and celebrate with some nifty IDF dance moves next time they level a hospital?
Oh wait — there are no fully functional hospitals left in Gaza

 

[Richard Hawkins]

If only the world had more people like you who "don't give a shit" and "don't care" — everything would be all lollipops and rainbows.
After all — complaining on a dead forum like this really is useless ( seriously ) — nobody cares.
So sit back and watch some sports ( or whatever matters to you ) — really enjoy not caring or giving a shit.
Hell — why not take it a step further and celebrate with some nifty IDF dance moves next time they level a hospital?
Oh wait — there are no fully functional hospitals left in Gaza

There are no fully functional hospitals left in Gaza because Hamas has commandeered them for terrorist bases.

 

[Tyger]

There are no fully functional hospitals left in Gaza because Hamas has commandeered them for terrorist bases.

Exactly so. It's as though the critics are failing to consider the kind of warfare Hammas was conducting in Gaza. It was a bloody dirty kind of war.

 

[Tyger]

Until atrocities that are carried out against Israeli nationals are treated with the same sympathy as those carried out by the IDF I don't give a shit. And I am not a Jew.

Yes. I've been puzzled by the glaring discrepancy in people's outrage. It's evidence to me of how successful the psyops has been .

War is war. No war is clean and tidy. War brutalizes everyone involved. Especially the fighters in the thick of it. October 7th was an outrage - Israel's response was surprisingly measured taken as a whole - but in the end Hammas did not play according to the Marquess of Queensberry Rules - quite the reverse - they went against every standard of decency, placing women, children, the sick and elderly, all in the line of fire. The outcome was calculated - Hammas knew what they were doing - and their propaganda was phenomenally successful even though it was often shown to be flagrantly untrue. Did Israel err? I imagine they did. But taking a side solves nothing, for the reasons I've given prior.

 

[Pygar2]

If Hamas were to lay down their arms, the problem would be over. If Israel were to lay down their arms, the nation would be over.