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First Contac--How do you see it happening?

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TheDeeMan

Paranormal Novice
An alien spaceship lands in the middle of Central park in NYC in broad daylight proclaiming to the entire world beyond a shadow of a doubt that alien life exists and that they've come to earth. And?...

What happens next? How do you see our first contact with extraterrestrials happening? Is it a pleasant yet tentative meeting between two vastkly different cultures? Does it turn into a bit of "The Day the Earth Stood Still" because of man's somewhat suspicious nature? Or worse, is it War of the Worlds in the making?

Dee
 
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In Central Park? Our first contact would be from a 300lb cop yelling "Get this piece of shit outa here."
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Seriously though, I think that if something were to land in Central Park there would be a flurry of "Who is going to greet them" activity. The UN, the President, the Mayor or whatever. Hopefully "they" would give us some time to sort that out.
 
Hahaha. No shortage of cynicism, but it's hard not to be given the topic. Just laugh with the rest of us DeeMan, for every active member on these forums has pondered over that particular subject to pieces. That's not to say we're beating a dead horse, because it is an interesting question with many angles, so I'll try to get some discussion rolling.

I think what you might be referring to is more along the lines of "Disclosure", which is a can of worms in itself, but many would argue that "first contact" has already taken place, numerous times, just not on the scale of the example you mentioned. In my opinion we can already deduce that our potential visitors don't have any interest in that style of contact, if you agree that the phenomena has been going on for at least a century. It hasn't happened yet. Will it ever?

For all we know they may have visited countless other civilizations prior to ours, or we're just one of the current. It may not be as big of a deal for them as it is for us, or perhaps they found that it's better to just leave grand introductions out of the equation completely. There's also the age old notion that .. we're just not that interesting. We're fun to watch and tinker with, but, they don't want to talk to us. From our human point of view that seems selfish or sociophobic, but it could be just how they are.
 
I see the First Contact announcement shrouded with confusion and secrecy at first..

Day One (first 12h):
News: The U.S. Millitary has discovered an unidentified object in an Iowa cornfield. The military releases no further information. No photographs are available. Everything's quiet for 12 hours.

Day One(second 12h):
Camera phone pics are "leaked" through that show a classic reflective metal disk, landed in an iowa cornfield, 12 hours after its discovery. The picture shows soldiers standing in rows next to it

Day Two
The millitary announces finding an "unknown object" in Iowa and states that more information will be available after more intelligence can be gathered.
The nature of the object is unknown, the news predicts it's a prank or other type of fraud.

Day Three, 6:00 AM EST
The president announces we are not alone in the universe and the next stage for humanity is begun.
 
By accident only. A UFO goes down in a major metropolitan area and several aliens come stumbling out of the wreckage to the shocked disbelief of hundreds of witnesses. The sheer quantity of cel phone pics and videos posted to the internet withing minutes makes cover-up impossible for the authorities. Time to lay the cards on the table.
 
By accident only. A UFO goes down in a major metropolitan area and several aliens come stumbling out of the wreckage to the shocked disbelief of hundreds of witnesses. The sheer quantity of cel phone pics and videos posted to the internet withing minutes makes cover-up impossible for the authorities. Time to lay the cards on the table.

The aliens will be quickly hauled off-site in ambulances and fed strawberry ice cream as the craft is cordoned off. Then Bill Nye will get on Larry King and say this is obviously a viral marketing campaign set up to sell Alienware gaming PCs. The aliens were small-stature actors dressed up in rubber suits. Skeptics will be calling foul and Alienware will deny any involvement. Someone will find a coca cola can in the spaceship, which will also be quickly hauled away. Then CNN will find a guy who says he participated in the fraud and give away a few details. The FBI will launch an investigation and then a crane operator will say he was the one who hauled the craft to the roof of a nearby building where it was pushed off to simulate a crash. The Mayor will get on TV and suggest criminal charges of public endangerment are being prepared and they hope to catch the perpetrator very soon.

Meanwhile a local New Age group wearing long robes will suggest the craft is a harbringer of the Second Coming and set up camp on the crash site, selling beads and small figurines of the aliens out of a tent. Gloria, an older lady with wispy blonde hair and member of the group will claim to be in telepathic contact with Orgasmithon, who is the alien leader. Strieber will be interviewed by Fox and claim the craft was real because they had actually visited him first, where he gave them directions on how to proceed. Budd Hopkins will proclaim to be undecided, but says he is willing to regress anyone who saw the spectacle so that they can fully recall their experiences. George Snoory will interview a number of witnesses, many of whom will be harangued by skeptics on the West of the Rockies line. And Snoory will say, "Oh, my goodness. That's just amazing.' Leno, in his new show, will pull together an alien panel (of aliens) and ask them stupid questions about gaming in Las Vegas. There will be a Top Ten List, too, of 'You know you've seen an alien when....'

Within a few days a Hurricane will strike Florida and become the major news item and Obama will again be criticized for bowing to a foreign potentate who calls himself a King. People wil debate why they have to, yet again, bail out stupid retirees who insist on building flimsy beach condos and then say they are deprived when they fall down. The story will be pushed off the front page. Conspiracy theorists on ATS will start a new forum suggesting the UFO was NOT viral maketing, but is instead a NWO plot hatched by the Illuminati to hasten a one-world government. The cell phone pictures which make it to David will be deemed to blurry and out of focus to tell definitively if they are Photoshopped.

And, on the Paracast, Greg Bishop and Robert Hastings will enter into a month-long quoting duel, each quoting long swaths of text from the other to provide single-sentence rejoinders, on a thread entitled, 'Was it real, or was it Memorex?' Tommy Allison will announce the whole thing is 'fucking god damned fraud' and ask everyone just what they are going to do about the god damn coke can, fer Chrissakes! It's obvious! And BrandonD will point out whoever did this is in it for the money. Gareth will point out that if this had happened in the southern hemisphere they would have found one of those over-sized cans of Australian beer rather than a mere 12oz coke can. And Dusty will proclaim that must be the same space ship that is supposedly buried in a field in front of Longleat, the huge home of the Marquess of Bath and his 75 wifelets.
 
You know Schuyler, I don't know if I should be offended that you've implied my scenario could be dismissed with childish ease or astounded at how horrifically plausable the response you've outlined is... Perhaps slightly less plausable if the metropolitan area is not one in the USA but still...
 
The aliens will be quickly hauled off-site in ambulances and fed strawberry ice cream as the craft is cordoned off. Then Bill Nye will get on Larry King and say this is obviously a viral marketing campaign set up to sell Alienware gaming PCs. The aliens were small-stature actors dressed up in rubber suits. Skeptics will be calling foul and Alienware will deny any involvement. Someone will find a coca cola can in the spaceship, which will also be quickly hauled away. Then CNN will find a guy who says he participated in the fraud and give away a few details. The FBI will launch an investigation and then a crane operator will say he was the one who hauled the craft to the roof of a nearby building where it was pushed off to simulate a crash. The Mayor will get on TV and suggest criminal charges of public endangerment are being prepared and they hope to catch the perpetrator very soon.

Meanwhile a local New Age group wearing long robes will suggest the craft is a harbringer of the Second Coming and set up camp on the crash site, selling beads and small figurines of the aliens out of a tent. Gloria, an older lady with wispy blonde hair and member of the group will claim to be in telepathic contact with Orgasmithon, who is the alien leader. Strieber will be interviewed by Fox and claim the craft was real because they had actually visited him first, where he gave them directions on how to proceed. Budd Hopkins will proclaim to be undecided, but says he is willing to regress anyone who saw the spectacle so that they can fully recall their experiences. George Snoory will interview a number of witnesses, many of whom will be harangued by skeptics on the West of the Rockies line. And Snoory will say, "Oh, my goodness. That's just amazing.' Leno, in his new show, will pull together an alien panel (of aliens) and ask them stupid questions about gaming in Las Vegas. There will be a Top Ten List, too, of 'You know you've seen an alien when....'

Within a few days a Hurricane will strike Florida and become the major news item and Obama will again be criticized for bowing to a foreign potentate who calls himself a King. People wil debate why they have to, yet again, bail out stupid retirees who insist on building flimsy beach condos and then say they are deprived when they fall down. The story will be pushed off the front page. Conspiracy theorists on ATS will start a new forum suggesting the UFO was NOT viral maketing, but is instead a NWO plot hatched by the Illuminati to hasten a one-world government. The cell phone pictures which make it to David will be deemed to blurry and out of focus to tell definitively if they are Photoshopped.

And, on the Paracast, Greg Bishop and Robert Hastings will enter into a month-long quoting duel, each quoting long swaths of text from the other to provide single-sentence rejoinders, on a thread entitled, 'Was it real, or was it Memorex?' Tommy Allison will announce the whole thing is 'fucking god damned fraud' and ask everyone just what they are going to do about the god damn coke can, fer Chrissakes! It's obvious! And BrandonD will point out whoever did this is in it for the money. Gareth will point out that if this had happened in the southern hemisphere they would have found one of those over-sized cans of Australian beer rather than a mere 12oz coke can. And Dusty will proclaim that must be the same space ship that is supposedly buried in a field in front of Longleat, the huge home of the Marquess of Bath and his 75 wifelets.

Brilliant. Aside from the comical particulars, I really wouldn't rule out the general notion you outlined there. What a sad, sad world .. It brings to mind some of the diehard skeptics out there (Oberg, Shermer, Shostak, etc.) falling in line with that scenario. You could probably toss an alien corpse in the back of their skeptic-mobiles, and upon entering would wonder what the smell was, search high and low every nook and cranny of the vehicle and completely miss the alien cadaver and go nuts over the odor.
 
The aliens will be quickly hauled off-site in ambulances and fed strawberry ice cream as the craft is cordoned off. Then Bill Nye will get on Larry King and say this is obviously a viral marketing campaign set up to sell Alienware gaming PCs. The aliens were small-stature actors dressed up in rubber suits. Skeptics will be calling foul and Alienware will deny any involvement. Someone will find a coca cola can in the spaceship, which will also be quickly hauled away. Then CNN will find a guy who says he participated in the fraud and give away a few details. The FBI will launch an investigation and then a crane operator will say he was the one who hauled the craft to the roof of a nearby building where it was pushed off to simulate a crash. The Mayor will get on TV and suggest criminal charges of public endangerment are being prepared and they hope to catch the perpetrator very soon.

Meanwhile a local New Age group wearing long robes will suggest the craft is a harbringer of the Second Coming and set up camp on the crash site, selling beads and small figurines of the aliens out of a tent. Gloria, an older lady with wispy blonde hair and member of the group will claim to be in telepathic contact with Orgasmithon, who is the alien leader. Strieber will be interviewed by Fox and claim the craft was real because they had actually visited him first, where he gave them directions on how to proceed. Budd Hopkins will proclaim to be undecided, but says he is willing to regress anyone who saw the spectacle so that they can fully recall their experiences. George Snoory will interview a number of witnesses, many of whom will be harangued by skeptics on the West of the Rockies line. And Snoory will say, "Oh, my goodness. That's just amazing.' Leno, in his new show, will pull together an alien panel (of aliens) and ask them stupid questions about gaming in Las Vegas. There will be a Top Ten List, too, of 'You know you've seen an alien when....'

Within a few days a Hurricane will strike Florida and become the major news item and Obama will again be criticized for bowing to a foreign potentate who calls himself a King. People wil debate why they have to, yet again, bail out stupid retirees who insist on building flimsy beach condos and then say they are deprived when they fall down. The story will be pushed off the front page. Conspiracy theorists on ATS will start a new forum suggesting the UFO was NOT viral maketing, but is instead a NWO plot hatched by the Illuminati to hasten a one-world government. The cell phone pictures which make it to David will be deemed to blurry and out of focus to tell definitively if they are Photoshopped.

And, on the Paracast, Greg Bishop and Robert Hastings will enter into a month-long quoting duel, each quoting long swaths of text from the other to provide single-sentence rejoinders, on a thread entitled, 'Was it real, or was it Memorex?' Tommy Allison will announce the whole thing is 'fucking god damned fraud' and ask everyone just what they are going to do about the god damn coke can, fer Chrissakes! It's obvious! And BrandonD will point out whoever did this is in it for the money. Gareth will point out that if this had happened in the southern hemisphere they would have found one of those over-sized cans of Australian beer rather than a mere 12oz coke can. And Dusty will proclaim that must be the same space ship that is supposedly buried in a field in front of Longleat, the huge home of the Marquess of Bath and his 75 wifelets.

That was brilliant!

Schuyler, you're schmart. You make our ship go.
 
The aliens will be quickly hauled off-site in ambulances and fed strawberry ice cream as the craft is cordoned off. Then Bill Nye will get on Larry King and say this is obviously a viral marketing campaign set up to sell Alienware gaming PCs. The aliens were small-stature actors dressed up in rubber suits. Skeptics will be calling foul and Alienware will deny any involvement. Someone will find a coca cola can in the spaceship, which will also be quickly hauled away. Then CNN will find a guy who says he participated in the fraud and give away a few details. The FBI will launch an investigation and then a crane operator will say he was the one who hauled the craft to the roof of a nearby building where it was pushed off to simulate a crash. The Mayor will get on TV and suggest criminal charges of public endangerment are being prepared and they hope to catch the perpetrator very soon.

Meanwhile a local New Age group wearing long robes will suggest the craft is a harbringer of the Second Coming and set up camp on the crash site, selling beads and small figurines of the aliens out of a tent. Gloria, an older lady with wispy blonde hair and member of the group will claim to be in telepathic contact with Orgasmithon, who is the alien leader. Strieber will be interviewed by Fox and claim the craft was real because they had actually visited him first, where he gave them directions on how to proceed. Budd Hopkins will proclaim to be undecided, but says he is willing to regress anyone who saw the spectacle so that they can fully recall their experiences. George Snoory will interview a number of witnesses, many of whom will be harangued by skeptics on the West of the Rockies line. And Snoory will say, "Oh, my goodness. That's just amazing.' Leno, in his new show, will pull together an alien panel (of aliens) and ask them stupid questions about gaming in Las Vegas. There will be a Top Ten List, too, of 'You know you've seen an alien when....'

Within a few days a Hurricane will strike Florida and become the major news item and Obama will again be criticized for bowing to a foreign potentate who calls himself a King. People wil debate why they have to, yet again, bail out stupid retirees who insist on building flimsy beach condos and then say they are deprived when they fall down. The story will be pushed off the front page. Conspiracy theorists on ATS will start a new forum suggesting the UFO was NOT viral maketing, but is instead a NWO plot hatched by the Illuminati to hasten a one-world government. The cell phone pictures which make it to David will be deemed to blurry and out of focus to tell definitively if they are Photoshopped.

And, on the Paracast, Greg Bishop and Robert Hastings will enter into a month-long quoting duel, each quoting long swaths of text from the other to provide single-sentence rejoinders, on a thread entitled, 'Was it real, or was it Memorex?' Tommy Allison will announce the whole thing is 'fucking god damned fraud' and ask everyone just what they are going to do about the god damn coke can, fer Chrissakes! It's obvious! And BrandonD will point out whoever did this is in it for the money. Gareth will point out that if this had happened in the southern hemisphere they would have found one of those over-sized cans of Australian beer rather than a mere 12oz coke can. And Dusty will proclaim that must be the same space ship that is supposedly buried in a field in front of Longleat, the huge home of the Marquess of Bath and his 75 wifelets.

WOW! That was awesome! You made my night.
 
PLEASE don't be offended, Capn. T'wasn't my intent. I figure if the thing landed in NYC no one would notice anyway.

No real offense taken Schuyler, tongue is well within range of cheek.

Your insights are as ever, erm, insightful.
 
The "first" contact happened a long time ago. But it was probably with one person. As a mob, humans are dangerous. We have a hard enough time getting along with other humans that are from another culture or religion, what would we do when we find out we don't understand reality, and everything we believed was wrong?

So since people have been reporting encounters for a very long time... that's the contact(s) right there.

So it's safer to contact a smaller number of humans at a time. Or, a sighting that involves a large number of people, such as David's South American sightings, from a distance. That raises people's awareness. When enough people have had an experience, then it's easier to make contact with that group, and maybe assume they wont be hostile. Don't hold your breath. (Maybe that's why the "meek" are supposed to inherit the earth? Assuming we should listen to any of that stuff)

I think if they ever intend to "come out", it wont be for a very long time... just these encounters with smaller groups of people. And if there was this big contact scenario, how would life be the next day? It would ruin a lot of people's lives if they are all wrapped in in a particular religious belief. There would be riots and wars and other silly human behavior.

And maybe they just don't have a need to, or desire to do make them selves known to everyone all at once. it might never happen. Ever.

But then people have been having paranormal experiences for as long as people have been here. For as many people who saw "elves", or what have you, they haven't made any "official" contact either.

On a side note, ever notice it's often the people who really don't believe that UFOs exist that have sightings?
 
These presuppositions need to be acknowledged:

1. Is there one or more alien race on the scene?
2. aliens possess strong telepathic powers and the ability to read and control minds
3. aliens possess strong tele-kinetic powers with the ability to move heavy objects.
4. aliens possess power to erase the memory of their presence from 'others' they encounter.
5. aliens possess shape-changing powers travelling in vortices of light.
6. aliens possess power of levitation.

In The Event, found in the UFO forum, I witnessed 2 to 6.

a. alien history on earth goes back eons not thousands of years.
b.alien presence is recorded as mythology in childish stories of fairie tales.
c. alien penetration of the minds of myth-makers and populating the minds of children, have had an enormous civilizing effect of those affected.

They arrive, put on a show and then depart.
 
The aliens will be quickly hauled off-site in ambulances and fed strawberry ice cream as the craft is cordoned off. Then Bill Nye will get on Larry King and say this is obviously a viral marketing campaign set up to sell Alienware gaming PCs. The aliens were small-stature actors dressed up in rubber suits. Skeptics will be calling foul and Alienware will deny any involvement. Someone will find a coca cola can in the spaceship, which will also be quickly hauled away. Then CNN will find a guy who says he participated in the fraud and give away a few details. The FBI will launch an investigation and then a crane operator will say he was the one who hauled the craft to the roof of a nearby building where it was pushed off to simulate a crash. The Mayor will get on TV and suggest criminal charges of public endangerment are being prepared and they hope to catch the perpetrator very soon.

Meanwhile a local New Age group wearing long robes will suggest the craft is a harbringer of the Second Coming and set up camp on the crash site, selling beads and small figurines of the aliens out of a tent. Gloria, an older lady with wispy blonde hair and member of the group will claim to be in telepathic contact with Orgasmithon, who is the alien leader. Strieber will be interviewed by Fox and claim the craft was real because they had actually visited him first, where he gave them directions on how to proceed. Budd Hopkins will proclaim to be undecided, but says he is willing to regress anyone who saw the spectacle so that they can fully recall their experiences. George Snoory will interview a number of witnesses, many of whom will be harangued by skeptics on the West of the Rockies line. And Snoory will say, "Oh, my goodness. That's just amazing.' Leno, in his new show, will pull together an alien panel (of aliens) and ask them stupid questions about gaming in Las Vegas. There will be a Top Ten List, too, of 'You know you've seen an alien when....'

Within a few days a Hurricane will strike Florida and become the major news item and Obama will again be criticized for bowing to a foreign potentate who calls himself a King. People wil debate why they have to, yet again, bail out stupid retirees who insist on building flimsy beach condos and then say they are deprived when they fall down. The story will be pushed off the front page. Conspiracy theorists on ATS will start a new forum suggesting the UFO was NOT viral maketing, but is instead a NWO plot hatched by the Illuminati to hasten a one-world government. The cell phone pictures which make it to David will be deemed to blurry and out of focus to tell definitively if they are Photoshopped.

And, on the Paracast, Greg Bishop and Robert Hastings will enter into a month-long quoting duel, each quoting long swaths of text from the other to provide single-sentence rejoinders, on a thread entitled, 'Was it real, or was it Memorex?' Tommy Allison will announce the whole thing is 'fucking god damned fraud' and ask everyone just what they are going to do about the god damn coke can, fer Chrissakes! It's obvious! And BrandonD will point out whoever did this is in it for the money. Gareth will point out that if this had happened in the southern hemisphere they would have found one of those over-sized cans of Australian beer rather than a mere 12oz coke can. And Dusty will proclaim that must be the same space ship that is supposedly buried in a field in front of Longleat, the huge home of the Marquess of Bath and his 75 wifelets.

Brilliant,

I love you Man :D
 
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