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Extraordinary: The Stan Romanek Story

Discussion in 'UFO Contactees' started by ChrisJohnsen, Jul 6, 2017.



  1. ChrisJohnsen

    ChrisJohnsen Paranormal Adept

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    This documentary just became available to stream via Netflix. I'm in the middle of watching it. I'll save my opinion until I'm finished but I will say Stan is no Academy Award winner, if you know what I mean.

    Update:
    I finished the doc. The only thing that stops me from filing this guy 100% into the "hoaxer" category, which he clearly has been involved in over the years with at least some elements of his "story," is the participation of someone I consider level-headed and very credible - Alejandro Rojas. Frankly, I was rather surprised when he showed up in this doc.

    There is a bit of interesting footage of a silver craft from 2000. Though the filmmakers don't talk with any experts to analyze it. There is the ubiquitous "red orb" footage which he claims follow him around. Unproven. There are the alleged "multiple witnesses" to this phenomena following Romanek, none interviewed on camera. There is some other interesting tiny orb footage showing a small ball of light zipping through the house and in the backyard, which admittedly looks quite interesting, but again, no expert is interviewed to explain what this might be. You're just supposed to take the footage at face value with no questions asked. Some photo/video software effects are used to represent "analyzation" of the video frames and picture stills in question to presumably show that these visuals have not been manipulated in any way, but again, without an expert in visual media, like D'Antonio or Maccabee, explaining the veracity of the tests and providing professionally-interpreted results, how is the layperson supposed to know what, exactly, they might be looking at?

    Don't get me started about the footage showing a grey alien peeking in the window, or the "grandpa grey" looking in through the sliding glass door, or the mysterious "phone calls" from his alien-human hybrid children, or "Audrey" the English-accented robotic voice entity calling him "Starseed" on the phone and explaining he has a mission. All are of dubious provenance.

    I did come away feeling bad for Stan's long-suffering wife, Lisa. She's interviewed and you come to realize that Stan has allegedly fathered 7 alien-human hybrid children with another human female experiencer, Victoria Albright. Stan and Victoria end up meeting in real life and have a connection Stan's wife has trouble accepting. Victoria is also interviewed in this doc. There is another woman, Heidi, but I don't know how she fits in to all of this other than when one of Stan's hybrid children, "Kioma," suddenly cuts in on a conference call they are having (and apparently conveniently recording).

    Parts of the doc definitely made me go "huh, what could that be?" but I cannot help feel that the Romanek story "well" has been judiciously poisoned by his previous, ham-fisted fakery attempts to bolster his original story. Even some of the "experts" interviewed allude to his past hoaxing by qualifying their comments, saying "even if only 40% of what Stan claims is true" and "do I believe everything Stan says? No." Obviously, none of the more notorious hoaxing gets mentioned directly in the film as actual hoaxes. Some, as I've outlined above, get presented as "evidence." The participation of Paola Harris does not help the film's credibility either.

    Finally, when we talk about Stan Romanek these days, we can't omit his very disturbing 2014 arrest on possession of child pornography. The film deals with it at the very end, though not talking with Stan about it. There is no on-camera interview portion addressing it, there is no vociferous denial from Stan. Probably due to legal reasons, as I believe the case is ongoing. However, there is an attempt to show, via referencing news article headlines, that viruses and/or hackers and/or the government can easily plant that kind of stuff on a person's computer. That's obviously not untrue as a general rule but you have to ask yourself if that is a plausible explanation in this specific case. Is Stan's (Starseed's) "message" so threatening to the powers-that-be that they need to frame him for child pornography? I guess you'll have to be the judge of that (until the actual judge finally rules).

    I'd love for Gene and Chris to watch this documentary and then have Alejandro Rojas on an episode of ATP to discuss his involvement and to expand on his feelings about the Romanek story itself. He is apparently very familiar with it and seems to be friends with Romanek himself.


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    glad you brought this up i too have checked the stories of Stan out and at first they seem completely insane but then Alejandro has been very credible in the field of ufology for many years and i doubt he would be easily fooled, i find it a fascinating case file which i think needs to be investigated further but with the onset of the alleged "child Porn" court case i don't think many people will take it on but like you said this could be planted by hackers to discredit him to stop people from looking into his case,i mean why would you have that sort of material on your computer systems if your in the public eye and in the field of UFOLOGY knowing files get checked and double checked. Alejandro has been investigating Stan from early on also i have spoken to Lisa many times myself via Facebook and she's convinced that he's experiencing theses incidents but on the documentary her body language tells a different story, maybe he's convinced her the story of abduction to cover up his "Affair" ? again this is just what could be going on.

    But yes id love to have Alejandro and Stan on the show and here there side of the story especially Alejandro as he was the first person i contacted while i was serving in Afghanistan. and told him of some stories that we had experienced over there.
     
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    I find it peculiar that a guy with so much accumulated documentation of events, would suddenly be under investigation for child porn. I'm not sure what to make of his accounts, but if you want to ruin someone's reputation, then framing him for child porn would certainly do it. It just seems very odd to me that a guy would go to such extreme lengths to hoax all of this, and then suddenly has an ongoing trial for something that could utterly ruin him.
     
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    Everyone should be afforded the presumption of innocence until proven guilty in a court of law. Not being intimately familiar with the details of the case, I have no opinion either way about whether Romanek might be guilty of the charges he's been accused of: possession and distribution of child pornography.

    That said, I'm not inclined to believe that this is some elaborate conspiracy by local AND Federal officials to discredit a man whose "claim to fame" is that he has made a number of dubious claims, videos and audio of alleged alien contact over the past 17 years. Romanek has done a good enough job of discrediting himself the past 15 years, no need for the Feds or local police to jump in to help.

    There may be a simple, non-creepy, and mistaken reason why Homeland Security tipped off local law enforcement about Romanek's alleged possession and distribution of material considered child pornography, OR, "Occam's Razor," he's a total pervert and ultimately was randomly caught up in and traced visiting illegal websites that were being surreptitiously monitored by the gov't and busted trading photos of minors with other like-minded pervs. Time, and the courts, will tell.


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    Having met Stan and Lisa my opinion might be skewed. They are both great people to get to know. i had witnessed several weird anomalies while camping with them at the UFO watch tower near Hooper CO. I have posed several questions towards Alejandro Rojas in regarding his current opinion on Stan. Out of respect for Lisa he is reluctant to talk much about it but he did express ( on podcastufo.com) that he was upset that Stan had lied to him. (i assume regarding Stan had a recording playing during a phone interview that wasnt legit.) Alejandro & his cousin Jason had gotten pretty close with the Romaneks when he still lived in Colorado. I know that it is frustrating that Stan apparently embelished stuff but what i witnessed in Colorado I can attest he is a magnet for "high strangeness". I hope he gets a fair trial. I pray for him & Lisa.

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    What would motivate one to make claims, videos and audio of alleged alien contact over the past 17 years. That would have to be a highly dedicated individual. It's nuts either way, truth or hoax.
     
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    Here’s Stan in action …



    … as it may be ET who is setting Stan up to take a fall.

     
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    I'm not going to judge his guilt or innocence. That someone seems nice and honest doesn't mean they don't have a dark side and that they aren't doing really nasty things.

    But I find it stretches credibility to think that "they" were out to get someone that was already regarded as pretty much a fake and a crank. Why frame someone like that? There are surely more credible candidates.
     
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    I agree, however, his innocence or guilt may never become known, as the lead detective in the case is now under investigation.
     
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    Seems he does get a lot of sightings especially when he's out and about and with other people. id love to hear Alejandro on this matter.
     
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    Alejandro Rojas ambushes Walter Bosley on the Paracast, calls his theories BS, yet appears supportive on a Stan Romanek documentary LOL, you can't make this stuff up people. One guy worked for the FBI (Bosley), the other guy was arrested by them (Stan).
     
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    thats him then being sent down
     
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