David Biedny On The Dead Science Podcast

[Jim S.]

I thought somebody would have posted this by now...I hope it's not inappropriate to mention another podcast here but what the heck.

David was recently interviewed on the Dead Science Podcast (which I'm not affiliated with just for the record) and had quite the interesting story to tell. After you listen to the Paracast you might want to check it out. deadscience.libsyn.com

Thank you Gene and David for an always interesting two hours. Whether someone believes in this stuff or not, you guys present it well.

 

[David Biedny]

Jim,

Thanks for the kind comments about The Paracast.

I'm glad you found the Dead Science podcast, and just so you know, I'll be talking about that particular experience in detail very soon on The Paracast. I suspect that our listeners will find it, if nothing else, different than some of the stuff we normally cover on the show. I'm gradually revealing some of my personal paranormal experiences to our audience, and this one is very important in that it deals with the topic that is perhaps the most perplexing question for all humanity: what happens when we die? I think I have a very small piece of that puzzle.

 

[meciar]

Thanks for the link Jim, I listened to the dead science podcast last night and I thought David Biedny's experience was quite amazing. It is a very impressive experience.. it is too bad we have to take David's word for it. But that seems to be the case for many many paranormal experiences. I'm only being skeptical because I have never experienced anything close to that kind of thing happening. It was a good show though, I'll have to listen to some more of the dead science podcasts

 

[Gene Steinberg]

Thanks for the link Jim, I listened to the dead science podcast last night and I thought David Biedny's experience was quite amazing. It is a very impressive experience.. it is too bad we have to take David's word for it. But that seems to be the case for many many paranormal experiences. I'm only being skeptical because I have never experienced anything close to that kind of thing happening. It was a good show though, I'll have to listen to some more of the dead science podcasts

Let me give you some advance notice: David will also be talking about his experience on the October 15th episode of The Paracast. I hope, between the two shows, you'll gain a greater insight into what happened to him.

 

[Guy.W]

That was aa great show and story.

 

[David Biedny]

Meciar,

It's true that all that ANYONE has to go on as far as this story is my word... as you know, this issue of anecdotal evidence and the validity of stories without third-party verfiable proof is one I bring up on the show constantly. As you heard on the Dead Science podcast, my feeling about this experience is that I am meant to share it with people. Realize that I really have very little to gain from this, in terms of understanding my motivation for sharing it with people I don't even personally know. Yes, it's a good story, and yes, it's exactly right for The Paracast. The thing to realize is that I have little to gain - and lots to lose - by coming clean with this story from my life. The truth is that even my involvement with The Paracast has had a very definitive negative effect on my professional career, which I had assumed would be the case before I committed to getting involved with it. I had expressed my reservations to Gene before the first episode was recorded, but I also know that the wild range of paranormal experiences I've been blessed/cursed with must have some meaning beyond entropy or serendipity, as does everything that happens to us in our lives. In the case of this story, if I can bring even one person some comfort in knowing that they do not cease to exist in some form after the moment of death, and therefore make their passing - or the dreadful experience of having a loved one die - even one bit less painful, then I'm happy to pay the price for sharing it.

 

[Jim S.]

Thank you for sharing that story David and spitting in the eye of the consequences!

I've not really done much research in to the paranormal and all its myriad tales, but has there ever been third party verifiable proof on anything deemed paranormal? It seems that whatever the claim, or the evidence presented to support it be it photo, video, or whatever, it all goes back to the credibility of the individual who experienced "it" and collected the evidence as to whether or not it should be believed. That doesn't make the idea of proof very easy.

I've never had any paranormal experiences either, one weird experience yes, but I haven't seen any ghosts or UFO's and quite frankly I don't want to! But I hate to think that I can't believe any of these stories because I haven't lived them. If that were the case, how would we ever learn?

I'm looking forward to the upcoming show.

Jim

 

[David Biedny]

Jim,

Actually, I can give you an example of an very paranormal situation which is almost unique in that is extremely well documented, has a myriad of witnesses, and involves multiple areas of oddness - the unique case of Arigo.

Jose Arigo - Alleged Psychic Surgeon and Healer

Growing up in Venezuela, I can tell you that Arigo was very well known and considered quite out of the ordinary throughout all of South America, even though he had already been dead for a few years (I moved to Caracas in the early summer of 1974, Arigo died in 1971). He literally cured hundreds of thousands of people, and there is an amazing book, "Arigo: Surgeon of the Rusty Knife", which includes a bunch of photos and some absolutely fascinating background information on this man. The bottom line? He did miraculous stuff every day, and never accepted a penny for his efforts. THAT'S how you know he was the real deal, when it all boils down to it. Seriously, I feel that his case is the most significant paranormal anything of the 20th century.

 

[Jim S.]

Yeah, there's some weird stuff going on there! I read the Mysterious People article you linked to, and I remembered seeing something on TV many years ago that depicted "how easy" it was to fake psychic surgery with stage blood and chicken guts, but I don't think a million people would be fooled by that. I'd like to see some of the films of Arigo's surgeries.

It's difficult to believe some of this stuff when it goes against just about everything you learn growing up. When I read stories like that one my immediate reaction is doubt, though I couldn't give you good reasons why.

Why did Dr. Fritz pick this man? Why did people claiming to be possessed by Fritz die violent deaths? What made Fritz able to continue his work despite his death? Ahhh the questions!

We need a few more Arigo's sprinkled around this country. Maybe health care wouldn't cost so damn much anymore!

Jim

 

[meciar]

Meciar,

It's true that all that ANYONE has to go on as far as this story is my word... as you know, this issue of anecdotal evidence and the validity of stories without third-party verfiable proof is one I bring up on the show constantly. As you heard on the Dead Science podcast, my feeling about this experience is that I am meant to share it with people. Realize that I really have very little to gain from this, in terms of understanding my motivation for sharing it with people I don't even personally know. Yes, it's a good story, and yes, it's exactly right for The Paracast. The thing to realize is that I have little to gain - and lots to lose - by coming clean with this story from my life. The truth is that even my involvement with The Paracast has had a very definitive negative effect on my professional career, which I had assumed would be the case before I committed to getting involved with it. I had expressed my reservations to Gene before the first episode was recorded, but I also know that the wild range of paranormal experiences I've been blessed/cursed with must have some meaning beyond entropy or serendipity, as does everything that happens to us in our lives. In the case of this story, if I can bring even one person some comfort in knowing that they do not cease to exist in some form after the moment of death, and therefore make their passing - or the dreadful experience of having a loved one die - even one bit less painful, then I'm happy to pay the price for sharing it.

I just wanted to add, that I thought it was a very smart idea to phone someone else and give them the details immediately after this happened. I think a number of things people consider paranormal might just be from thinking about an event too much and getting a distorted view on it. What I mean is that your mind could have made the event bigger than it was. I think that might even be a form of self hypnosis - if you continually think about a strange event that happened maybe your mind creates additional details that might not have been there. I don't know much about this subject, but I'm sure it is recognized in psychology

 

[ikez78]

I just wanted to add, that I thought it was a very smart idea to phone someone else and give them the details immediately after this happened. I think a number of things people consider paranormal might just be from thinking about an event too much and getting a distorted view on it. What I mean is that your mind could have made the event bigger than it was. I think that might even be a form of self hypnosis - if you continually think about a strange event that happened maybe your mind creates additional details that might not have been there. I don't know much about this subject, but I'm sure it is recognized in psychology

I haven't really had a paranormal incident myself but have had some things happen in my life that were picture worthy/story worthy and yet I wasn't able to photograph them or call someone right away. I'd think the immediate reaction to something paranormal would be to try and make sense of it and determine if/what really happened.

 

[Aaron LeClair]

Wasn't the Dead Science guy the one that mouthed off about the Paracast in a blog recently? Or am I thinking of someone else? I was wondering what came of that. I recall reading a post from David indicating he was going to look into it.

 

[David Biedny]

Wasn't the Dead Science guy the one that mouthed off about the Paracast in a blog recently? Or am I thinking of someone else? I was wondering what came of that. I recall reading a post from David indicating he was going to look into it.

I spoke to Rob, and he was misquoted, as I suspected. Everything is cool.

dB

 

[ikez78]

Very cool interview. I like hearing these subjects approached from different angles.