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But that's just it, it's an apparently pre-reflective quality. Once one pays attention to it—reflects upon it—it ceases to be "pre-reflective."I bet if you start paying attention to it, it can become your way of experiencing it too ...
So, what I've done is *tried* to ponder/think back about periods of time during which I wasn't "consciously" aware of stimuli, but upon reflection I realize that, indeed, I had been hearing/seeing/smelling something (which is interesting in and of itself).
What I never seem to recall when I do this, is the quality of a self-consciousness.
@Soupie
David Weinberger:Knowledge at the End of the Information Age | TVO
interesting bits on definition of knowledge and DNA is not information (it's squishy)
@Constance - you asked me what I thought about this article, what I thought the thesis is:
https://www.academia.edu/12589122/T...and_Consciousness_in_Physics_and_Sāṁkhya_Yoga
*the slides can be downloaded (.ppt) here:
Alfred Collins | Pacifica Graduate Institute | Papers - Academia.edu
The author starts here:
- Consciousness, for the anthropic principle, exists for the sake of the world process.
- Puruṣārtha asserts the converse, that the world process unfolds, or is enacted, for the sake of consciousness.
... and then attempts to "fuse the conceptual horizons of these two ideas"
He ends here:
If it is possible to do physics under the aegis of the puruṣārthic principle, what would scientific experimentation be like?
The answer must lie in the concept, articulated by Sri Aurobindo, of “knowledge by identity” as opposed to knowledge wrested violently from nature.
If each experiment is oriented pratiprasava (in the direction of the primordial state called avyakta, “the unmanifest” or mūla-prakṛti, “root prakṛti”), science would take on an enlightenment- or salvation-oriented perspective, flow rather than push to understand and control. The second aim of prakṛti for puruṣa’s sake must not be forgotten here. Science, like all action, would work for puruṣa’s enjoyment. Science, like all life, would become yoga. Its knowledge would not be acquired and possessed; it would be lived, practiced, and shared with the universe.
Steve, would you be a peach and tell me what Weinberger thinks "the new digital disorder" is? That way I can listen to music instead of listening to him.
Sorry I'm a bit behind on Paracast...@Pharoah
I finished your latest paper. I think its the clearlest, most concise presentation of your model yet. Well done.
I'd like to read it once more, then I'll offer some questions/comments.
Sorry I'm a bit behind on Paracast...
@Soupie Great... and the feedback would be most welcome. I have been preparing my response to a submission rejection: I plan to go on the offensive and want to have an erudite counter argument to reviewer's criticisms.
I have been preparing a second paper on information which I intend to submit to a 'call for papers' on information.. I am quite excited about it and think it may be up your street @Soupie.
Sorry I'm a bit behind on Paracast...
@Soupie Great... and the feedback would be most welcome. I have been preparing my response to a submission rejection: I plan to go on the offensive and want to have an erudite counter argument to reviewer's criticisms.
I have been preparing a second paper on information which I intend to submit to a 'call for papers' on information.. I am quite excited about it and think it may be up your street @Soupie.
@Constance @smcder
It has not been rejected. But I am preparing for a reject because I think I should be able to counter any rejection with an articualte disciplined repost... and that requires preparation.
Thanks for the feedback Constance.
The quality of the paper is in no small measure due to the positive criticisms and enquiring questions that have come from this forum group over the months