Alex Collier - Supposed abduction ideas

[digigeek]

I just stumbled across mention of Alex Collier. I had never heard of the guy, so I Googled him and found some information. I get so tired of the consistently lame stories that contactees tend to tell. Here's a typical passage from Collier being interview by Paola Harris:

Collier: No , I never had any of that and I don’t consider myself an abductee and I resent that people classify me as an abductee.
Harris: There is a difference between abduction and contact.

Collier: I know that and you know that. I am willingly part of this process.

Harris: If you are not at the intellectual level to accept contact, you will consider it a violation. It is too bad these experiences get" bad press’ Was there a feeling that you had something to do and you had better do it and you had agreed to do it before you were born. Are we talking mission here?

Collier: According to the A’s we are genetic royalty ,everyone on this planet and it has nothing to do with where we are on a soul level. People confuse the two. It is like people don’t listen as well as they hear. They say we are genetic royalty because we the subtotal in our genetics of 22 different races. Many different races have been here, over millions and millions of years they have genetically tampered with us and left us and ended up mating while they were here.

The underlined text from Paola Harris is so absurd. Even if this WERE happening, what sort of masochistic moron considers being yanked out of bed at someone else's whim and being poked at to be some sort of "blessing"??? Even my 7 year old is polite enough to ASK his friends if they want to play and not just yank them into whatever he wants them to do. Seriously, this sort of attitude is proof of the general lack of character and free-will exhibited by most of the "Crystal crowd" - people of this ilk. If any being got so bold as to think to come into my house and "Take" any one member of my family away for whatever purpose at all without asking them first and exhibiting some simple common-sense and sensitivity to OUR cultural customs then I'd absolutely be pissed and probably get violent.

Yeah, sure, it seems silly to even say this since the mere suggestion that any such race would NOT be sensitive to customs and such is also absurd. The only rational explanation for this sort of "grabbing" of humans - if it is not merely a weird mass-hallucination felt my many (which it likely is IMO) - is the theory that they simply view us in the same way we view experimental animals or animals in the wild.

Heh. If we're such genetic royalty then why would they not approach me politely and feed me peeled grapes like the royalty I am? Do we always have to appease our egos by saying things like this? Honestly, this sort of statement makes it sound more and more like lucid dreaming - the sort of assuaging that your own mind might do to bolster your lacking self-confidence.

Thoughts?

 

[Ally]

As an experiencer I agree what you are saying. The part about calling a spade a spade. Do you know how many New Agers have said to me..Well you chose this before you came into this life? OK let's say I did choose this. Does every rape victim choose that too. That type of mumbo jumbo doesn't help the person process these type of experiences. You (New Agers) may as well say it is God's will so shut up and realize this is for you own good.

 

[Aaron LeClair]

I just stumbled across mention of Alex Collier. I had never heard of the guy, so I Googled him and found some information. I get so tired of the consistently lame stories that contactees tend to tell. Here's a typical passage from Collier being interview by Paola Harris:

Leave it to Paola to interview the whackos.

 

[CapnG]

Go to Youtube and search for "UFO hypothesis" and watch Collier's interview. Oh and bring popcorn, cuz it's like a 1950s sci-fi marathon...

 

[mike]

been a while since i read comunion, but i always remember the bit where streiber asks what gives you the right to do this, to take me out of my house, scare me and my family. and the answer being "the ability to do so."
same as we do with animals in the wild and otherwise.

i suppose looking at the pandas being displayed by china right now, we do treat some examples like "royalty" but im betting the vet checks complete with thermometer that goes you know where, feel like a violation to the recipent none the less

 

[casketizer]

Few months ago I read a statement from a person who hung out with the person who now calls himself "Alex Collier" in the 80s.
He says the guy never mentioned anything of aliens or paranormal in all the years he knew him.
So much for "life long abductee"....

UFO industry. Buy my DVDs please.
He authorized UFO Hypothesis to sell his new DVD to individuals, but not put on YT or GV. Any questions?

 

[Experiencer7]

An animal who regularly visits the vet may become comfortable with the routine.

 

[Poi]

I don't know. Have a cousin who suffers horribly from paranoia. She thinks her family, including moi, are out to steal her land. If a cousin she hasn't seen in years runs into her in a public place, that cousin becomes part of the vast conspiracy against her.

She saw my spouse's name on a sign alongside the freeway once and it caused her to wreck her car on that freeway. It was a sign he was "violating her civil rights" by causing her to wreck. (Excuse me?) A large Washington agency sent us the complaint, I forget which it is because she's sent complaints to every agency in Washington, the state of Texas and in my city.

She thinks we're all following her in our cars so she's constantly wrecking her car trying to get away from us in traffic. Of course the police are in cahoots with us now too, but she isn't crazy enough to lock up for treatment. She still works and maintains a certain bizarre lifestyle. I'm pretty sure she's turned against her children for the same reasons now.

So she's had terrible events take place in her life, causes herself unimaginable pain and isolates herself which only causes her problems to perpetuate. I'd say she's created most of these things in her life with no idea that she has. She's an extreme case, but who's to say what we draw to us? It isn't an open/shut case, imo. We have no idea what we do to ourselves with one misstep or creative impulse.

That said, there are opportunists of every ilk just waiting for missteps. I don't necessarily think we are at fault, just misdirected sometimes. And ... sometimes we're just unlucky.

 

[Antoun]

I actually agree with Paola's statement. A deeper understanding of the abduction phenomena will reveal that it's probably a necessary process. People's fear reaction doesn't make the process any less necessary if we are to survive or evolve.

 

[Jonah]

Alex Collier - Supposed abduction ideas

I posted the smiley but feel I should elaborate a bit...

Collier is a marker of sorts when one reviews the processes of those associated with what is the as "The Aviary" or at least those loosely associated with it. He also becomes an example of a weird form of rascism and IMO, the darker side of disinfo. His association with Val Valerian (many of his articles and Q&A's are with VV- aka former AFOSI intelligence officer Capt. John Grace and posted at his site) and his mimicry of common Valerianisms is extremely suspect. Here are some choice examples.


"They say that our universe, which consists of everything that we do and don’t know about, is a 21 trillion year-old hologram."

" Now, our government, the United States government, the New World Order - whatever you want to call it - wants to implant everybody."

"In Westchester County, New York, over 5,000 children have vanished without a trace over the last three years. The government knows what is going on but they are helpless to do anything about it. The reason they don’t want to bring it up is because they let the bastards in here in the first place. They cut a deal. "

"Our moon, according to the Andromedans, is an artificial satellite. I will tell you that a lot of people are working on this. Two years ago, I sat in a room with Richard Hoagland and asked him, “why don’t you tell the people that the moon is an artificial satellite?”. Richard Hoagland replied, “I’m not ready.” See, he knows."

"Our moon now is colonized. I am told by Moraney that there is a full time working population on the moon of 35,000 people, and that they are all Ari-ans by birth. I’ll let you figure out the implications of that yourself. There are no blacks, Chinese, Hispanics, Korean, Japanese, Italians ... they are all Ari-ans by birth."

"According to Moranae, Hale Bopp is a protocol ship from Orion. It has four spiral structures on it, and it carries two moons behind it. When it enters our solar system in 1997, the two moons will go into orbit with mercury, and our government is going to make a “They’re Here” public announcement."

"AC - We received a tape that talks about the Gunderson Railroad Company in Oregon getting a contract to build 107,200 railroad cars that have 143 sets of shackles in each one. I have done some checking, and it’s an absolute reality. So, they intend on transporting 15,000,000 people in these train cars. What’s wrong with this picture? This is the United States. You have to end the denial. If you believe nothing else about the ET’s, and I am telling you with all of my heart, they are behind all of this."

Throw in a little William Cooper, Lear, Doty, Branton, Icke, Cliff Stone and the White Supremacist crowd at Elohim City and you get Alex Collier. I do believe they are all culpable to an extent regarding this case. Lots of the same themes/imagery found there.

A very dark side to Ufology indeed. The darkest...

 

[Ron Collins]

An animal who regularly visits the vet may become comfortable with the routine.

Acceptance and tolerance are not the same as comfort. I know enough about these experiences to hope that I nor anyone I know has them.

 

[Xylo]

I'm quite sure that intellect is not a prerequisite in the world of Paola Harris, or Alex Collier for that matter. The bottom line seems to be sales of books, DVDs or other merchandise.

While every abduction/contact scenario may not play out in the same exact manner, the more believable experiences have not been with friendly, loving, "I just made a pie for you" types of beings. I think The Paracast has filtered out a few of those experiences for what they really are or are not.