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"Drops bid for broader disclosure"…after congressmen were secretly advised of the utter futility of that now?

Grusch didn't make up stories. As I see it, he is just a disinformation agent who sought to sully the idea of crash retrievals, and a coverup, by citing one or more dubious accounts.

Wingfield perceives a difference between sky sightings and ET sightings, but there's no real dichotomy. Many aerial craft have been observed from a distance with entities abroad and many unusual, landed beings are associated with craft, where interaction with humans has often taken place.

Just like P.T. Barnum said "there's a sucker born every minute…"

Randle recently posted on this. There have been similar claims in the past and none were ET.

Yes indeed. So Calvin Parker passed just before the 50th anniversary of his experience. Thanks for courageously telling your story, and RIP.

Probably his handlers, and those who ensured NICAP was "tame."

Seemed that way but some time ago a website said he was a disinfo agent.

I don't think making money was Keyhoe's only purpose...

I don't buy that. An event involving aliens (like cash landrum) would still be top secret but chimps, from that long ago?? That wouldn't be such a big deal; it didn't involve sacrificing humans. We would've heard about use of chimps in '45--just like in '50-- years ago. Btw if they needed 65...

What's hard to believe about that? Even you admit they lied about alien features so they lack credibility. Randle dumped a few witnesses because they embellished their accounts or made things up. Give the "mass of evidence" where is corroboration for any of this? Did any soldier, his kid or...

Alleged proof UFOs are real, not proof of what they are. One could claim advanced ETs could do it, or maybe it's just a hologram. If it comes from the Navy that would be calling them liars. More immediate, but longterm nothing is bigger.:)

😀 The interim goal is just to inure us to the reality of "visitors." Not until the process is well advanced, or consummated, will we be deemed ready for full disclosure, or indisputable proof. Prior to that, the result would be negative psychological reactions, and premature overthrow of the...

Did they tell the crash story prior to the '80s? If so, who remembers them doing so? If memory serves the trinity case didn't become known until after 2000, one to two decades after Roswell came back to life so to speak. Sounds ridiculous. Mantid aliens aren't the same as greys. So he has no...

😀 No, I don't think so.

If they wanted us dead I don't think we'd be discussing this right now.;) It appears the party in the best position to know the truth, the US government, is not overly concerned. The work I mentioned previously describes alien motives and operations and considers them perfectly comprehensible.

Occasionally aliens have been violent. It isn't just abduction and mutilation cases, and disappearances. People have been assaulted by aliens.

I disagree. We know about what was ordered in the early '50s, which wasn't very much earlier than '45. If what you say happened actually did, there should be some corroboration, maybe an old diary. It's hard to believe there would be no documentary evidence (or witness testimony) whatsoever for...

Assuming their eyesight was good they should've seen they were hairy and any kid their age would've known what a monkey was, even if that technically wasn't the same as a chimp. Note the pic upthread; you can easily see the arms, legs and head are hairy. I know a NASA uniform wasn't necessarily...

This is exactly what one work, The Alien Grand Design, says about Roswell. Strange that Vallee spoke of these possibilities in regards to a more dubious case…. There are two possibilities. Baca has no credibility or he saw something quite unlike chimps. I think it's most likely he, like a...