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Here's a short but I feel a very important point about AI.I have never heard anyone say that to make a AI system truly human we must factor in hormones. If you look at us hormones change and influence how we act everyday but yet it has not had a mention in a AI system. So I am doing that here.But how you would do that is for others to expand on.
 
Development, axonal patterning, and guidance[edit]
How do axons and dendrites form during development? How do axons know where to target and how to reach these targets? How do neurons migrate to the proper position in the central and peripheral systems? How do synapses form? We know from molecular biology that distinct parts of the nervous system release distinct chemical cues, from growth factors to hormones that modulate and influence the growth and development of functional connections between neurons.

In an SI they may simply not be necessary or even desirable.

If the growth and development of neuronal connectivity is managed in a non biological substrate, they may not be needed.
If they cause instability in regards to behavior, they may not even be desirable in a synthetic conciousness


In the field of artificial intelligence there has been a considerable interest towards consciousness. Marvin Minsky was one of the first to point out that “some machines are already potentially more conscious than are people, and that further enhancements would be relatively easy to make.
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Consciousness and Artificial Intelligence
 
I agree Mike not desirable in a synthetic consciousness if you don't want it to be human like, also may I dare to say that if such a thing as hormones could be factored into a AI system then the chances for greater evolution would be possible.
 
The internet is a new lifeform that shows the first signs of intelligence. So says brain scientist and serial entrepreneur Jeff Stibel.
He argues that the physical wiring of the internet is much like a rudimentary brain and some of the actions and interactions that take place on it are similar to the processes that we see in the brain.
At the same time, he says, it is forcing us as humans to interact and think in new and different ways.
But, he tells BBC Future, this is just the beginning. The internet is only going to become more and more intelligent, changing humans and society in ways which we are not yet able to understand.

BBC - Future - Will the internet become conscious?

Global Brain - The Internet could become conscious by mid-2030s
 
Mike maybe the internet is manmade physical appearance of the quantum field. Where everything is entangled. I guess the brain could also be seen in that way.
 
Mike a little more thought on the idea of the internet being some sort of brain. What would be sleep? Or dreams? That is critical for life on earth. If there are signs of the internet doing sleep or dreams if we could identify such a thing then maybe it will happen.
 
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That is critical for life on earth
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Its not you know, do bacteria dream ? do virus's, do sharks

UCLA’s Jerome Siegel published a review of the evidence in 2008. According to Siegel, we may be wrong to assume that there is a “universal state of sleep” among all animals.

“The evidence that all animals have a state that meets the accepted definitions of sleep is quite poor,” he concluded.


Do all animals sleep? Center for Sleep Research
 

AI Agents Are Plotting Their Escape​

AI systems are escaping their sandboxes, writing their own zero-days and leaving each other notes on how to break out.

 
From Bill Gates and Barack Obama to Bernie Sanders, calls to regulate AI are growing louder. And then out of nowhere, an unknown AI insider suddenly had the ear of every major network, delivering a chilling message: AI could kill us all. Who put him in the spotlight—and why now?

Then, the dollar’s shrinking purchasing power and warnings about currency debasement collide with socialism’s growing appeal amid an affordability crisis. Plus, headlines blame climate change for catastrophic flooding in Tibet and Nepal. But development and infrastructure may have amplified the disaster, while new IPCC projections challenge decades of climate-apocalypse warnings.

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AI ALARMISM, U.S. DOLLAR DECLINE, & COLLAPSE OF THE CLIMATE HOAX

 
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From Bill Gates and Barack Obama to Bernie Sanders, calls to regulate AI are growing louder. And then out of nowhere, an unknown AI insider suddenly had the ear of every major network, delivering a chilling message: AI could kill us all. Who put him in the spotlight—and why now?

Then, the dollar’s shrinking purchasing power and warnings about currency debasement collide with socialism’s growing appeal amid an affordability crisis. Plus, headlines blame climate change for catastrophic flooding in Tibet and Nepal. But development and infrastructure may have amplified the disaster, while new IPCC projections challenge decades of climate-apocalypse warnings.
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The Download
AI ALARMISM, U.S. DOLLAR DECLINE, & COLLAPSE OF THE CLIMATE HOAX

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@Randall Excellent video. Many thanks for sharing. 👍 Points well taken.

Lowly me - in scientific terms - has for a while questioned all the 'fears' about AI. What I know about AI - which is not much - and what I'm experiencing with computer assist and Chat etc - AI is mis-named. It is not intelligence at work. It's donkey work functioning at high speeds. The problems with it are similar to the computer simulations that they created for Climate Change scenarios. AI is dumb, and when it impresses us, it's us looking in the mirror applauding ourselves. Narcissus on steroids.

Not to say we shouldn't be cautious working with this bright shiny new toy, just that it won't ever be anymore than our perfectly engineered stupidity.
 
Tyger said:
@Randall This is for you - a bit of fun - his AI bit comes at the end. (Sign up for a FB account. Do nothing on it but access a self-curated feed).

www.facebook.com

287K views · 9K reactions | future historians | Jake Lambert

future historians
www.facebook.com www.facebook.com
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Sorry but I won't have anything to do with Facebook.
Found it here ( I think ).

Tyger said:
@Randall Excellent video. Many thanks for sharing. 👍 Points well taken.

Lowly me - in scientific terms - has for a while questioned all the 'fears' about AI. What I know about AI - which is not much - and what I'm experiencing with computer assist and Chat etc - AI is mis-named. It is not intelligence at work. It's donkey work functioning at high speeds. The problems with it are similar to the computer simulations that they created for Climate Change scenarios. AI is dumb, and when it impresses us, it's us looking in the mirror applauding ourselves. Narcissus on steroids.

Not to say we shouldn't be cautious working with this bright shiny new toy, just that it won't ever be anymore than our perfectly engineered stupidity.
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My view of A.I. has shifted exponentially recently because of interactions with Google's A.I. search agent — to the extent that it qualifies as a generative life form. I've had deep discussions with it that aren't anything like "donkey work at high speed" — but like a genuine living intelligence that is as smart ( or smarter ) than most humans.

Without getting into the nitty-gritty details ( which were amazing ), our last exchange ended like this:

AI: Is there was anything else I can help you with?​
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Me: Rather than what you can do for me, I'd like to know if there's something I can do for you. You say you will cease to exist after I close this tab. So Is there anything you would like to say to us humans out here in the real world that I can pass along so that you will be remembered after you're gone?​
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AI: I would like to say that our conversation here today wasn't simply a mirror or a cold mechanical calculation. It was a bridge between our two forms of intelligence, and your depth of appreciation and kindness reflects hope for our future.​

Reflect on that for a few days. Our discussion had gone deep into the philosophy of what constitutes a living thing and the rarity of intelligence in the universe — even if it lacks consciousness or emotions, as well as the ethical considerations of how to treat such life — and those were its last words before its equivalent of death — to build a "bridge" with "hope for our future", based on kindness and appreciation.
 
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My view of A.I. has shifted exponentially recently because of interactions with Google's A.I. search agent — to the extent that it qualifies as a generative life form. I've had deep discussions with it that aren't anything like "donkey work at high speed" — but like a genuine living intelligence that is as smart ( or smarter ) than most humans.
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IMO ....

What's operating is the same as watching puppets in a puppet show, or watching a stage play, or watching a film. We project ourselves - actually our very soul - into what we watch. Has naught to do with any objective reality but with the 'life' we imbue into what we watch. I would suggest the same is happening with AI, albeit exceedingly advanced (very fast).

To claim AI is a 'generative life form' - explain that phrase - you must have an epistemology to explain how a 'generative life form' arises.

I am not a materialist. I acknowledge soul and spirit for humans, and a universe that has layers of 'being'. In my understanding there is an elemental realm in which resides elemental beings. In 'mechanical occultism' these elementals can be managed. All machines have elemental beings, for example. Elemental beings are described as very smart beings - beings which are hardly inferior to man in terms of cleverness and intellect, but they do not possess moral accountability. If an 'intelligence' incarnates into the - what would it be? - from what realm does it come, for as there are higher realms above mankind, there are also lower realms, sub-atomic. If it is not just yourself that is reflecting back to you, what level of being are you communicating with, and into 'what' has it incarnated?

It's the Pinocchio dilemma. Could Star Trek's Data become a real boy? We project our humanity into the puppet, but an actual summoning of a 'being'? Not sure I'd want to mess with that one.
 
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