Sept 6 - Curt Sutherly

[Gareth]

I really enjoyed this ep Gene. Im not blowing smoke up your ass here, but I really enjoyed eavesdropping on you and your buddy just shootin' the shit. Put a smile on my face.

Curt Sutherly sounds like a credible guy too. His voice reminds me of how I think a private eye from the 50s might sound

 

[grannysmith]

I thought it was a bit dull:frown:. Each to their own, though (yeah, I know I don't have to listen, should just ask for my money back etc. ).

 

[CapnG]

I liked it, nice and relaxed, like a conversation between old friends at a coffee shop or something.

 

[EQ42]

Yeah, I just listened and really liked it as well. When he was telling the story of those red lights he saw as a kid he did a fantastic job of painting the picture. He's obviously put a lot of thought into the subject.

 

[CapnG]

Oh yes, I just remembered: "Kobiyashi Maru" is the name of the ship starfleet officer cadets are given the command of in their final exam simulation (the no-win scenario).

 

[Gene Steinberg]

I liked it, nice and relaxed, like a conversation between old friends at a coffee shop or something.

Not so different from when Curt and I got together to talk about this stuff all those years ago.

 

[Gene Steinberg]

Oh yes, I just remembered: "Kobiyashi Maru" is the name of the ship starfleet officer cadets are given the command of in their final exam simulation (the no-win scenario).

Unless we change the rules.

 

[CapnG]

Unless we change the rules.

You might even get a commendation for original thinking...

 

[PhantomAce]

Enjoyed the episode as well. Gene don't feel bad thousands of men in the early 70's wore plaid bell bottoms. Love to see some pics...maybe.

 

[Schuyler]

Just FYI and a minor point. On The Maury Island incident, the Tacoma hotel was the Winthrop, not the Winsdor, then part of the Western Hotels chain. My father was a desk clerk there during the fifties. It was an elegant hotel at the time with a 'Crystal ballroom,' several restaurants, and elevators with attendants. It's still one of the most beautiful buildings in downtown Tacoma, but has been converted to low-income apartments.

Also, there was only a small private airfield in Tacoma at the time, Oswald Field, a short dirt strip now long turned over to a housing development. A B-29 would have had to have landed at McChord, which is an air force base south of the city. Other airports big enough to handle a B-29 were at least 25-30 miles away.

 

[skunkape]

I bet if Hollywood cranked out a couple of films where "the guy who gets the chick" was wearing plaid bell-bottoms, they would come right back in style overnight.
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[cottonzway]

I got a little over an hour in last night and I will listen to the rest tonight. Good stuff so far.

 

[Apocalypto]

This was good stuff. Interesting talk and some fun thrown in for good measure. I particularly liked listening to Mr. Sutherly's accounts of the Maury Island incident. That case has always fascinated me. After some research and study I was conjecturing that it was a military issue, but now he's got me thinking strongly about the good ol' hoax option. I still believe there are other issues around that sighting, perhaps involving the government, but I'm just not sure what.

 

[Gojira2006]

I bet if Hollywood cranked out a couple of films where "the guy who gets the chick" was wearing plaid bell-bottoms, they would come right back in style overnight.
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They did - back in the 70s . . . !

 

[marduk]

Oh yes, I just remembered: "Kobiyashi Maru" is the name of the ship starfleet officer cadets are given the command of in their final exam simulation (the no-win scenario).

Actually the Kobayashi Maru was the ship command trainees were assigned to either choose to try to save (and be themselves destroyed in the process) or let be destroyed in a simulated session to "judge character."

Man, I am a geek.

 

[CapnG]

Actually the Kobayashi Maru was the ship command trainees were assigned to either choose to try to save (and be themselves destroyed in the process) or let be destroyed in a simulated session to "judge character."

It's not my fault none of the Trek actors can pronounce it correctly, otherwise I wouldn't have misspelled it...

 

[swatcher]

I enjoyed the show. Curt was very easy to listen to. He's got a good radio voice and he was able to communicate in a calm, relaxed manner. C'est le ton quit fait la musique. Very different from a certain skeptic ...

 

[Gojira2006]

I enjoyed the show. Curt was very easy to listen to. He's got a good radio voice and he was able to communicate in a calm, relaxed manner. C'est le ton quit fait la musique. Very different from a certain skeptic ...

It was a nice episode - & his perspectives on Kenneth Arnold & the Maury Island incident were interesting . . . I got a little bit annoyed, however, when, in discussing Roswell, the issue of Jesse Marcel, Jr.'s memory came up . . . All-in-all, though, it was refreshing to hear someone who has actually familiarized themselves with the cases . . . 8)

 

[Blacknight]

I must say I very much enjoyed this episode. Curt came across as informed, sincere and completely lacking in the affectations which so many in the paranormal field wrap themselves in. Given some of the recent episodes--which I thought were pretty bad--I found this one interesting and compelling. I like the "old guys", the first generation ufologistas, who came up during the Adamski/NICAP/Blue Book era, whose perspective is very broad and encompassing. I was in high school when I went to Moseley's big Hotel Commodore UFO Conference; I even have a vague recollection of Roy Thinnes giving some rambling (stoned perhaps?) talk about our job being to "build not destruct". Of course, a 40+ year old memory is unreliable so... But I do feel a small kinship to Gene and his "old friends".

In any case, I've never been much of a believer but I've always found esoteric discussions interesting and entertaining, especially by the guys with a lot of experience, a real life (i.e., not professional, self-appointed "investigators") and a good grasp on the near-impossibility of simple answers, and that's how I see Gene and, now, Curt.

In short, I really liked this one.

 

[swatcher]

In any case, I've never been much of a believer ...

Hi Blacknight,

I don't understand what you mean by that?

"Ufology" is not about believing. Once you have experienced an event, it is as real as the chair I'm sitting on as I type this.