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What's Wrong With The Stock Market.

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That's a fantastic video, thanks so very much for posting it, Skunkape. Our entire economy is a Ponzi scheme, and it's all unraveling as we speak. Scary times, indeed.

dB
 
my first job, was on the 26th floor of the sydney stock exchange bldg, in bond street.
ive worked for stock and share brokers, merchant banks and even the local branch of SBC a Suisse bank

http://www.taxfreegold.co.uk/sbcswissbankcorporationgoldbars.html

(i still have a couple of swiss army knives with the three keys logo inlaid on them)

and i can say without any doubt, that what i saw during that time, tells me the financial system is a predator/prey model. for every winner, there is a loser.

i could see no difference when i was working at a stockbrokers, between how the "players" behaved in regards to stocks and shares, and how they behaved at the randwick racecourse, and indeed many of the chief dealers engaged in both pursuits, with the same enthusiam and tactics.

finding out AIG has 1.6 trillion in derivatives exposure, is a bit like finding out they blew that amount at the track.

and ive always had that attitude to the stock and share market, any money you spend there should be looked on like a day at the races, you might win, you might loose.

the problem is when ppl start measuring their wealth based on the "numbers" in the share portfolio, hence the expression paper millionaire

http://www.investopedia.com/terms/p/papermillionaire.asp

i like to think of "the market" as a place where the greedy stupid, are seperated from the greedy smart, along with lots of their cash.

i once watched a greedy dealer who had a packet of shares he bought for 4 dollars each, go to $16.50, then the next day drop back to 16, then 15.....other brokers got out, but not our intrepid hero, they will rally he calmly stated, while his key strokes frantically called up a refresh on prices.
some took his advice and waited, but the last of them broke when the share price hit 8.50, still our hero hung on..... they bottomed at 2 bucks each, he lost money

its all about the greed, a small profit isnt as great as a large profit, but its better than no profit. the trick is knowing when to hold em, and when to fold em, an apt parralel to draw.

though as i said the horse racing one is better.

as an investor/punter you can either go out to the physical premises of a company which you are thinking about buying shares/gambling on.
ask for a copy of any company reports, get a tour of the facility if possible and generally check out its health.

or you can rely of the advice of your broker/bookie who has done this sort of leg work in one form or another.

but either way you pay your money and take your chances and for every dollar you win, some poor slob somewhere goes home poorer. oh there is growth, and you do skim some of that legitimate "value" off the pile. but most of its funny money, bubble money inflated and filled by greed.

heres another example

was watching a british game show where the idea is to go to the flea markets, and buy antiques as cheap as you can, then resell them at auction and try and make a profit, you "win" the game if you make a profit.
and thats "Good". (shades of G.Gecko) the show is called bargain "hunt" ie predator / prey model

but if you really look at the dynamic, its everyone trying to "rip off" everyone else.
the aim of the game is to pay "less" to the person who owns the object, than you thinks its worth as an item.
if with your experience in antiques you "spot" a bargain that is an item you think is worth 100 credits with a price tag reading 20 credits, you snap it up, knowing full well the vendor is getting what you perceive to be "less" than what you think its worth.

someone wins , someone looses

true story this

was the 80's and i was eating lunch in the forecourt of the australia square bldg in sydney, suddenly a collective sigh/moan came up from the crowd of lunch eaters (to this day i cant explain how they "knew")

and we all looked up, and there was a guy in a brown 3 piece suit doing a really bad seagull impersonation, he had taken the lift to the 48th floor observation deck with a hammer in his jacket, calmly stepped out of the lift and over to the window...........
landed splat in the lane next to where i was eating, arms and legs at angles you dont often see. most remarkable of all the chalk outline and blood stains remained there for weeks until it rained
he was a stockbroker gone bust
 
I think the idea of all humans living a "rich" existence is possible, but not without either the enlightenment of, or elimination of the parasitic class.
Let me be VERY clear...by "parasitic class" I am not talking about poor people who get a couple hundred bucks worth of food stamps every month.
The hypocrisy of people who consider themselves Christian, yet can tolerate a society that grinds its boot-heels into the face of the 'non-rich' in the name of "capitalism", are an abomination.
We all know the buzzards I'm talking about.
Bernie Madoff should be ground into hog-feed...along with plenty more of his kind. If no example is made, this SHIT will continue.
Until every man, woman, and child is properly fed, sheltered and educated, we will remain, collectively, a shameful species.
Call me a commie...I'll tell you where to go stick it.
 
I think the idea of all humans living a "rich" existence is possible, but not without either the enlightenment of or elimination of the parasitic class.

bit by bit the idea is sinking in

for example Mr Streiber even........

When economists talk about the crash, they usually blame subprime mortgages and profligate lending by the banks. However, our financial problems are only a side-effect of the real issue, which is that, last summer, we experienced our first taste of what it is like to butt up against the limits of the earth's ability to sustain our growth.

and i posted a thread yesterday about overpopulation.

having said all that, this news about the the wiffle ball 7 reactor could change all that if it pans out. right now the surface of the planet exposed directly to the sun is the cheapest way to grow the foods we need, and so we are on a constantly closing circle of competition between surface to stand on, and surface to grow on.

"suns in bottles" could change that, and there is still a lot of acreage underground.......

im not a finacial expert, but i honestly think that the paper millionaires are going to loose lots of "money" lol
ive seen it before, ppl who were "worth" six figures have to return to the workforce when the stock market "crashed" it happens as part of the cycle.

i think the infrastructure and assets that have always had real value, still do.
as we speak, while the press is screaming blue murder...... ppl are making money , profits.

the smart investors just start investing in safer products, less profit margin, but less risk as well.

i really dont think its the end of the world folks, there are just a lot more "paper" millionaires who have lost this time round , so the wailing and gnashing of teeth is a little louder

we do have a problem with jobs in the financial sector, a lot of the ppl who figured they could feed their familys on what they won at the track, are going to find they need retraining, and this is where the real problem is

the "financial sector" has become in some cases the major industry of a country. i watched a doco on london last night, one of the worlds largest examples of this.
manufactoring and export dont earn as much tax revenue as the finacial sector does. now that the bubble has burst and burst big, they have nothing to fall back on, all those ppl are surplus.....

the same thing happened to the Heavy Horses, when the tractor arrived, and the numbers were pared back to reflect that, only a few left now pulling wagons for beer comercials etc........

its a cruel world :D
 
Glad I spent the last few years being broke...this won't hit me as hard as successful Americans.

I was just thinking that as I looked around my apartment yesterday, and took quick stock of all the electronic gadgets and gizmos I love to have!

If I had been like the ant and saved all my money in stocks and other surefire methods of building a retirement plan... I'd be hooped!

Least this way I can find my way around with my GPS in my reasonably late model sedan, watch my favourite tv shows at my leisure courtesy of the pvr attached to the plasma in the living area and the lcd in the bedroom, or hookup a dvd or blue-ray, or old-school vcr; and if I get bored of that I can always connect to the internet and check out the paracast forum, and if that is too much effort, I can play either my playstation 3, or my ds lite, or just chill with my iPod...

yup, I am a lucky gal! Who knew being broke would be a blessing in these times...;)
 
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