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Never gonna happen. In the days before vaccines and antibiotics, I had family members who suffered from the lack thereof. One died of tetanus. Another almost died from whooping cough. And yet another had to spend a significant amount of time in the hospital from a bacterial infection that left permanent scarring. I know people who have become virtual shut-ins because there's a good chance covid could kill them or send them to the hospital. Just stop.

I don't discount your testimony. However, by saying "never gonna happen" you have arbitrarily discounted other important evidence that could widen your perspective. Unfortunately, we can't elaborate on it here, because @Gene Steinberg made the subject in general a Forbidden Topic.

So far, he doesn't seem to mind private off-the-record discussions. So if you're prepared to be more open minded, I could invite you to the Forbidden Topic DM. Otherwise, regrettably, we'll have to move along to something else, at least until Gene himself says it's okay to re-open it here in the public forums. Personally — I think that by now, it should be fine. The info is all out there already anyway. But it's his call ( not mine ).
 
To think that the revelations of exploits by a ring of wealthy pedophiles might bring disclosure. What a sick world we live in. ET save us please!
And the leader of the not-so free world (anymore) is protecting said pedophiles by deflecting and obfuscating while the disgustingly craven stand by and watch. ET may be aboard the mothership right now in wondering how long before the end of humanity, while viewing the great swirl before the final flush.
 
To think that the revelations of exploits by a ring of wealthy pedophiles might bring disclosure. What a sick world we live in. ET save us please!

The interesting thing is that the UFO info we want to know about ( if it still exists ) doesn't reside with those at the top — but in secretive agencies and private corporations that are likely beyond Epstein's honey pot operations.

Regarding the exploitation of children, it's been happening since the beginning of time in every institution — politics, religion, schools, sports, business, all the way down to the family level. ET can't save the world from that. Saving ourselves is the only way out of that depravity. It can be done provided we don't mess up the global ecosystem so bad that there's a total collapse.
 
I just happened to catch a bit of the documentary Inside Job last night. And the now discredited Elliot Spitzer discussed how there was a great reluctance to use people's vices against them in cases involving Wall Street investment firms, which is truly ironic considering how he got busted. They were talking about sex workers and illicit drugs being paid for on expense accounts with company funds. And this was part of the world that Epstein inhabited. So even though the focus is on Epstein, right now, the implications may far wider than originally considered.
 
I just happened to catch a bit of the documentary Inside Job last night. And the now discredited Elliot Spitzer discussed how there was a great reluctance to use people's vices against them in cases involving Wall Street investment firms, which is truly ironic considering how he got busted. They were talking about sex workers and illicit drugs being paid for on expense accounts with company funds. And this was part of the world that Epstein inhabited. So even though the focus is on Epstein, right now, the implications may far wider than originally considered.

If you liked that — check out the related documentary Client 9

 
And the leader of the not-so free world (anymore) is protecting said pedophiles by deflecting and obfuscating while the disgustingly craven stand by and watch. ET may be aboard the mothership right now in wondering how long before the end of humanity, while viewing the great swirl before the final flush.
I assume you are referring to Trump? It was Trump who called the Florida DA back in 2006 to give the DA (or was it the FBI) all his information on Epstein, who he had kicked out of Mar-a-Lago in the early 2000s. It is Trump who had the DOJ open the Epstein files to the public. How is Trump deflecting and obfuscating? To me it looks like he is the initiating cause of the transparency.
 
I assume you are referring to Trump? It was Trump who called the Florida DA back in 2006 to give the DA (or was it the FBI) all his information on Epstein, who he had kicked out of Mar-a-Lago in the early 2000s. It is Trump who had the DOJ open the Epstein files to the public. How is Trump deflecting and obfuscating? To me it looks like he is the initiating cause of the transparency.
Is your posting some kind of joke, as the man is a known pathological liar who will do anything to amass and consolidate power. Sure, he may have initiated the release of the Epstein files in the belief that the scandal’s news would not grow legs, but it obviously has. Since then, only a small percentage of total files have been released, and there is an obvious reason, and that is to protect himself and others from incrimination.
 
Trump’s Tariff Tantrums, the AI Job Replacement Doom Loop, and an Interview with Garland Nixon
Nothing but gaslighting & empty promises . . .

 
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Is your posting some kind of joke, as the man is a known pathological liar who will do anything to amass and consolidate power. Sure, he may have initiated the release of the Epstein files in the belief that the scandal’s news would not grow legs, but it obviously has. Since then, only a small percentage of total files have been released, and there is an obvious reason, and that is to protect himself and others from incrimination.
News to me. He's been proved right - ahead of the curve - more than otherwise.

As of January 30th 2026 - 50% of the files have been released. That's not a small percentage. At this point 'the Epstein files' - to me - are a psyops. There is so much nonsense in those 'files' - imagine the subconscious of billions of people being dumped into the conscious - there you have the 'files'. Insanity. Complete derangement of the population.

You're not open to discussion so no need to go further, agree? I asked how is Trump deflecting and obfuscating? You didn't answer, rather dismissed my post. Then deleted and obscured. So what's the point?
 
And you had to go there…lol. Fifty percent, again lol, and how much has been redacted in said files? In all honesty, I cannot agree with ignorance nor stupidly, unless you would like to discuss MTG (AKA) Margorie Talyor Green not withstanding Jewish space lasers, Pizza Gate and why did she dumped Trump?

As I’d really like to hear your view since having an extended staycation in otherwise attempting to understanding your perceived reality.
 
News to me. He's been proved right - ahead of the curve - more than otherwise.
So I take it you've tried to do an Excel spreadsheet to catalog all of Trump's BS against whatever he's allegedly been "proved right" about?
Or how exactly was this "more than otherwise" conclusion arrived at?
 
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Regarding the exploitation of children, it's been happening since the beginning of time in every institution — politics, religion, schools, sports, business, all the way down to the family level. ET can't save the world from that. Saving ourselves is the only way out of that depravity. It can be done provided we don't mess up the global ecosystem so bad that there's a total collapse.
Yes - whole civilizations were predicated on both adult and child sacrifice. The Aztecs come to mind. That didn't 'magically' go away. But we were redeemed - a new dispensation emerged in a very dark time indeed - during the Roman times of spectacle and bacchanals, when a world engaged in ritual sacrifice. We are only an intoxication away - a drug away - from losing our reason and moral balance even with our redemption.

From an esoteric stance there are reasons why such is engaged in - why victims and perpetrators find each other. The counter to that darkness is The Light - bringing compassion and forgiveness. Anything else and one is drawn into the Abyss. So saying, be wary of judgement and self-righteousness.

For everyone named there are countless who went willingly because of money. promises of money, or fame, or their own insanity. I happened to have followed this story since the mid 2000s when RT started broadcasting and was reporting on it - or one of it's lawyer shows was doing so. Wild stuff then - they had all the basic details down then but MSM news ignored it - it never gained legs. Then it came out again in the late teens - and I won't go into the names but if you followed the trial you know who the liars were - very troubled people - looking for money payouts.

There is a deep darkness in the human heart - it is our nature - people clamoring to read the details even if they are insane ravings - are feeding that darkness in themselves.

As Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn said on 'Good and Evil in Every Human Heart':

"If only it were all so simple! If only there were evil people somewhere insidiously committing evil deeds, and it were necessary only to separate them from the rest of us and destroy them. But the line dividing good and evil cuts through the heart of every human being. And who is willing to destroy a piece of his own heart?

"During the life of any heart this line keeps changing place; sometimes it is squeezed one way by exuberant evil and sometimes it shifts to allow enough space for good to flourish. One and the same human being is, at various ages, under various circumstances, a totally different human being. At times he is close to being a devil, at times to sainthood. But his name doesn’t change, and to that name we ascribe the whole lot, good and evil.


"Socrates taught us: ‘Know thyself!' "
 
Yes - whole civilizations were predicated on both adult and child sacrifice. The Aztecs come to mind. That didn't 'magically' go away. But we were redeemed - a new dispensation emerged in a very dark time indeed - during the Roman times of spectacle and bacchanals, when a world engaged in ritual sacrifice. We are only an intoxication away - a drug away - from losing our reason and moral balance even with our redemption.

From an esoteric stance there are reasons why such is engaged in - why victims and perpetrators find each other. The counter to that darkness is The Light - bringing compassion and forgiveness. Anything else and one is drawn into the Abyss. So saying, be wary of judgement and self-righteousness.

For everyone named there are countless who went willingly because of money. promises of money, or fame, or their own insanity. I happened to have followed this story since the mid 2000s when RT started broadcasting and was reporting on it - or one of it's lawyer shows was doing so. Wild stuff then - they had all the basic details down then but MSM news ignored it - it never gained legs. Then it came out again in the late teens - and I won't go into the names but if you followed the trial you know who the liars were - very troubled people - looking for money payouts.

There is a deep darkness in the human heart - it is our nature - people clamoring to read the details even if they are insane ravings - are feeding that darkness in themselves.

As Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn said on 'Good and Evil in Every Human Heart':

"If only it were all so simple! If only there were evil people somewhere insidiously committing evil deeds, and it were necessary only to separate them from the rest of us and destroy them. But the line dividing good and evil cuts through the heart of every human being. And who is willing to destroy a piece of his own heart?

"During the life of any heart this line keeps changing place; sometimes it is squeezed one way by exuberant evil and sometimes it shifts to allow enough space for good to flourish. One and the same human being is, at various ages, under various circumstances, a totally different human being. At times he is close to being a devil, at times to sainthood. But his name doesn’t change, and to that name we ascribe the whole lot, good and evil.


"Socrates taught us: ‘Know thyself!' "

Deep stuff — I was waiting for the "come to Jesus" moment — but you seem to have evolved past that ?
 
Sorry to interrupt this interesting debate but as an aside: What I've come to understand about things like facts and alternative facts is that there can be many realities and varying approaches to what truth is.

I would point to the surrealist state of the union address that had no real.basis in reality. People rose and stood for it and got kicked out and yelled back at him. Everyone has their version of events and it doesn't really matter anymore what truth actually is. Power will promote its version of things and everyone else just responds. In countries all over the world governments are busy shooting its own citizens in the street because they believe in different facts. That's what human civilization has been up to for how many thousands of years now? Can we finally put an end to fascism and religious based governments of any kind? It's just bad for the citizens. We don't believe in a single minded approach..But whatever the tanks roll on over people carrying flowers. All I have to say is:
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Anyways back to the discussion...
 
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And you had to go there…lol. Fifty percent, again lol, and how much has been redacted in said files? In all honesty, I cannot agree with ignorance nor stupidly, unless you would like to discuss MTG (AKA) Margorie Talyor Green not withstanding Jewish space lasers, Pizza Gate and why did she dumped Trump?

As I’d really like to hear your view since having an extended staycation in otherwise attempting to understanding your perceived reality.
I'm not paying attention to all this, so yes I had to go look it up. I was aware it was not an insignificant amount as you claimed but I didn't have the details. Anyway, its not my thing, just like Clinton wasn't my thing. I recall in the 90s how people rushed to buy the book - pre-internet - to read all the salacious details. I couldn't be bothered. But so many people were. I'm just not into porn.

Who cares what has been redacted? Why does one need to know? You're convinced you need to know the immoral peccadillos of everyone - how do you determine what are lies, what are insane ravings? More power to redactions. How will knowing make your life better? Human nature is human nature.

There are so many more important things to be paying attention to than these 'files'. IMO.

Margorie Talyor Green has her own purposes. I don't pay attention to her, so I had to ask computer assist: "Marjorie Taylor Greene stopped supporting Trump due to disagreements over foreign policy, healthcare, and his refusal to release files related to the Jeffrey Epstein case. This culminated in her publicly criticizing him, which led to a dramatic fallout and her decision to resign from Congress." How strange. That's a woman for you! Ha! :rolleyes:
 
Who cares what has been redacted? Why does one need to know? You're convinced you need to know the immoral peccadillos of everyone - how do you determine what are lies, what are insane ravings? More power to redactions.
Amongst disgusting things, you wouldn’t mind if your 16-year-old daughter was raped by a 50-year-old dignitary? Twisted shit … for sure.
 
Amongst disgusting things, you wouldn’t mind if your 16-year-old daughter was raped by a 50-year-old dignitary? Twisted shit … for sure.
Complete fantasy. That gives you permission by you to react with anger and disgust. You are creating your own hell. I hardly know what to say.

Choose your battles. Choose what you can amend and make whole. We are not responsible for the whole world. Only our own patch.
 
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