Great show. One of the best. "Separating signal from noise," indeed. I must congratulate the hosts for having the integrity to have on a well spoken skeptic, and to do so with dignity and intellect!
Hoagland is a fraud. Full stop.
Photoshopped pictures, artefacts (like the glass domes) that aren't there,
the "face" vs the "catbox" photos... c'mon. I'm not saying that there may not be artefacts scattered throughout the solar system just waiting for us to come across them -- but if they're there, Hoagland hasn't found them.
"Torsion field densiometer?" What a croc (
The Torsion Field Fraud). Easily testable, easily debunked. Maybe one of us should go ahead and do that? Nah, why bother, he's done it himself.
From his
Wikipedia entry:
A tenet of these views holds that vast amounts of energy originating from dimensions we cannot perceive are available at latitudes 19.5° both south and north on the Sun and every planet in the Solar System. Hoagland points to the colossal volcano, Olympus Mons, on Mars, as the supreme example, in addition to Earth's biggest volcano, Mauna Loa on the island of Hawaiʻi, and the anticyclonic stormon Jupiter. Olympus Mons is centered at approximately 18.65°N 226.2°E, and the massive shield spans from 13.48°N to 23.68°N and from 220.76°E to 232.2°E.[26] Jupiter's Great Red Spot is centered at 22.0°S.[27] According to Hoagland, an essential prediction of his theory is that a massive planet is yet to be discovered in the Solar System.[28] To date, no research conducted in mainstream astronomy would appear to substantiate these theories. Data analyzed from the WISE all-sky infrared survey, fully released in March 2012, has yet to reveal a Jupiter-size planet within the Oort cloud.[29] The survey should be able to reveal such an object.[30]
And another:
On 21 October 2011, onCoast to Coast AM, Hoagland said that 2005 YU55had two "really weird" characteristics.[93]First, he said that the asteroid was almost as spherical as a beach ball. Second, it had a rotation period of 19.5 hours. Both characteristics were later found to be inaccurate when better ephemerides[94]and radar images[95][96][97]became available.[note 6]In a 4 November 2011 interview on theInternet radioprogramCollision Course, he laid out a lunar impact scenario for 2005 YU55.[98]He said that since both Elenin and 2005 YU55had nearly coincidentperihelionson 11 September 2011,[note 7]a "torsion fieldeffect" at perihelion at a distance of 16 million miles (25.75 million km) from each other would have perturbed the asteroid's trajectory just enough so that it will collide with the Moon on 9 November 2011. Thisperturbationof the asteroid's orbit was the work of an intelligent force using hyperdimensional physics, according to Hoagland. Additionally, he said that if his scenario is correct, NASA would announce on 7 November 2011, when new radar observations are released, that the asteroid is going to collide with the Moon. Hoagland foretold of a "calm and reassuring" address by President Obama concerning the lunar impact at the19th APEC Economic Leaders' MeetinginHonolulu,Hawaii, on 9 November 2011, even though the meetings in Honolulu had been long-scheduled for 12–13 November 2011, and took place as scheduled.[99][100]He believes that calm reassurances are necessary to prevent people from panicking, possibly with lethal results due to stupidity, when a spectacular, but mostly harmless,meteor showeroccurs in the Earth's atmosphere about three days after such a significant lunar impact.
On 7 November 2011, Hoagland announced that two sources, one in the "political structure" in Washington, D.C., and the other in the "intelligence community" in southern California, had informed him of an unconfirmed rumor that an Atlas-Centaur was being prepared for launch at Vandenberg Air Force Base that very night. According to the rumor, the launch will send either a probe to observe 2005 YU55 or, more interesting to Hoagland, a warhead to deflect the asteroid so that it "does not come within a certain radius of the Earth."[101]
Neither of these two celestial bodies diverged from predicted paths. Elenin disintegrated completely into a dust cloud. If there was a message for humanity it was not made public.
Even more torsion field BS:
On 9 December 2007, Hoagland wrote that the vexatious problems NASA was then having with the Engine Cut-off (ECO) low-fuel sensors in the Space Shuttle main fuel tank were due to what he called the "torsion field," which he claimed would never be resolved by conventional engineering.[110] On 7 February 2008, STS-122 launched successfully. In the postlaunch press conference mission managers reported that the ECO sensors had performed flawlessly. The problem had been traced to an external tank feed-through connector — and corrected using perfectly conventional engineering.
...Even I'm getting tired of this:
On 2 December 2010, Hoagland said that the Space Shuttle Discovery mission STS-133, then on the launch pad, would be the first post-Newtonian mission.[118] He explained that the spacecraft would be powered to orbit by "...energy...coming from space, i.e., free energy, hyperdimensional physics, torsion [field] physics...," although he did not explain what he meant by that and was not pressed by hostGeorge Noory. STS-133 was delayed by needed repairs to the external tank, but launched successfully, and conventionally, on 24 February 2011.
Far be it from me to think Wikipedia is the be all and end all of information.
Google for more. Frankly, the only thing that surprises me about Hoagland is that anyone, anywhere, ever takes him seriously.
For me, Hoagland's right up there with the dude with the hair on Ancient Aliens.
Seriously. Well, if there's no rule against acting like an ass, then my post should fit in fine. (Well, Lance may see me as an ass, but most of the other intelligent posters on this forum will see things otherwise.)
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