It's no problem. I'm not into this sort of thing, yet recent events has my attention away from building furniture and tinkering on small engine's. We sometimes watch ghost stuff, but that is as far we have taken it till now. We just want answers.
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It's no problem. I'm not into this sort of thing, yet recent events has my attention away from building furniture and tinkering on small engine's. We sometimes watch ghost stuff, but that is as far we have taken it till now. We just want answers.
To Han- I feel the intention was friendly in nature , but I'm unhappy to what followed the event. Good intentions, but with unpleasant interactions. But hey we are still alive right!
To Wade- visual calculations of the object was 180-200 meters in length. I would estimate 3 possibly 4 yards in height. There were more but they went all around the object and I only drew what I saw from my position as it passed directly overhead. The marking continued as I could see underneath but we're too flat to make a recognizable pattern of them on paper.
Rottweiler's are so awesome and friendly lol.
It was certainly understand intelligent control without any doubt. It decreased in altitude low to the ground directly over us and went back up increasing altitude with slight turn northeast then east.
Shifting here from fact to impression- I feel it was a multiple-mission Arial Object. It appeared to be scouting or pacing out front from the 're-entering satellite.
Burnt State
Paranormal Adept
I understand the the space reentry took place at almost exactly the same time as your sighting time stamp, but then you said you saw the reentry as well, but it was eight minute later. Could you identify the difference between these two objects that you saw in terms of physical, visible description as well as flight path?
I understand the reentry object was traveling quite low and parallel to the ground, a very horizontal line in fact. I've seen reentry and it also has quite a sparky tail to it and the fire glow does look rather fluid around the object. In your pictures (those are your paintings correct?) you use color and some texture to delineate this object which you saw at night. These are simply stunning details especially the symbols. How is it they were so prominently visible to you at such a distance? The object had to be very low to the ground and the symbols you said were not illuminated but how did the stand put in contrast to the metallic surface of the ship?
What is a multiple mission Arial Object? What are your impressions that helped you to coin this phrase? Thanks for sharing your witness impressions here.
The Arial Object that we saw was moving very slow. Too slow for a fixed wing (airplane, jet) aircraft. Too silent for a rotary wing aircraft (helicopter) even with stealth technology. It came down from the clouds as it was going to collide into the HWY directly in front of us. Which is the reason why I hit the brakes and pulled to the side of the road stopping. It leveled off and floated directly over our truck slightly in front of us.
my headlights and dash lights dimed and brightened. We felt full of static and our hair stood up on our arms. Or radio lost signal and was static with clicking sounds. The object had what appeared to be static plasma flowing around it. It was not bright. We can clearly see the body of the object was a greyish color almost dark grey. The symbols were etched in the surface on the underside going completely around the body of the object. I only drew the ones that I could clearly make out. The last one was only the portion of the symbol I could make out. The object rose up while continuing in a north eastern direction made a slight direction change to a more eastern direction all while still claiming in altitude penetrated some clouds and fired off like a gun with no sound. Seeing the body of it was not difficult with our headlights on and the area we were in was a dark blue color. Not pitch black night. The front of the object was a crystal white with mild blue. Almost like those High intensity discharge headlights. The side of the object had glowing lights like florescent bulbs or Windows with lights in the interior.
The space debris we saw was at the gas station. It appeared to be 1,500ft had a white orange glow in the front and had a glow in in the rear like burning flame with small pices of burning debris coming off the rear. It had a long smoke tail trailing behind it. Although it was low it was not recognisable as to its shape. If I held a tic tac out in front of me as far as my arm would extend, the space debris would look that size as it passed by. The time of 01:28 was what time it was when the object we saw vanished out of sight. It lasted 4-5 minutes.
Also separating viewing facts from impression. I feel (my impression only) was it was a multi-mission Arial Object. I classify it this way because it took interest in our vehicle and was certainly understand intelligent control, then proceeded getting back on its course. The military has many UAV unmanned Arial vehicles and recon aircraft's. It's a wasted of funds to have something that has one mission alone. For instance. UAV's can have eyes in the sky, can fire missiles in precise locations, can map the ground, can identify other aircraft and so on. Your getting more use and intelligence out of one flight with the ability to change missions in flight and adjust as opportunities present themselves.
DissectionStalker
Paranormal Adept
1) How many feet over the HWY or near you did it get at its *lowest point* from the ground when it dipped and hovered in front of your car? What was the closest distance it was from you?
2) Could you CLEARLY see its shape and outline looking up at it from underneath? The underneath shape is exactly what? Was it "fuzzy edged" or have well defined edges? Nothing semitransparent or blurry or "wavy movement" [like vibrations or heat signatures] from underneath or elsewhere? The underneath color(s) was?
3) Was it illuminated the ENTIRE time it hovered or moved away, OR did the illumination dim/intensify or change as it moved, or fired off, or at any other point did it vary? Describe how the visual lighting changed and appeared throughout its entire trajectory.
4) When it fired off like a gun, please describe in EXACT detail what you mean by that. Was there acceleration [slow to fast] in EXACTLY what time frame from where to where? Distance covered? Altitude changes? Angle of assent and trajectory changes? Sharp angular or rounded turns in direction changes? Distance from you, when it left the area at high speed?
There is no doubt in my mind this object wanted you to see it. What is your military or MIC or intelligence background? Any top secret clearances or ?
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DissectionStalker
Paranormal Adept
Just an FYI... Also, because you reported to MUFON, I just want you to know that MUFON is definitely infiltrated by the Military Industrial Complex [MIC]. I promise you IF what you saw was real, then "they" already know who you are. Don't think for a second that MUFON has your back covered by protecting your privacy from the MIC. That's total BS, and I can prove it to you too!
Was it the MUFON Star Team that came to investigate your sighting? Are you certain the people that showed-up were JUST the local MUFON contacts? Did you check ALL their ID's and verify these are the local people??? Seriously! They probably were local, because you had no trace evidence or other independent witnesses. No matter. IF you saw something real, then your identity is already blown thanks to MUFON being infiltrated by MIC.
Also, how did you find the Paracast Forum?
Was it the MUFON Star Team that came to investigate your sighting? Are you certain the people that showed-up were JUST the local MUFON contacts? Did you check ALL their ID's and verify these are the local people??? Seriously! They probably were local, because you had no trace evidence or other independent witnesses. No matter. IF you saw something real, then your identity is already blown thanks to MUFON being infiltrated by MIC.
Also, how did you find the Paracast Forum?
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Soupie
Paranormal Adept
@Crispy
Thanks for sharing additional details here at the PC.
Regarding the nature of the "mmAU," are you suggesting it was a (very advanced) man made drone of some type, or do you feel it was non-man made?
You are sure that the phenomenon that you saw close to your vehicle was not the re-entering satellite. However, I wonder—personally—if it was possible a piece that had separated from the main piece and had taken a different trajectory through the atmosphere which led it over your car. (Sorry to be skeptical; I'm not trying to challenge you, just trying to rule out all non-extraordinary possibilities.)
Has any radar data been gathered?
Here's a video I was able to find of a sat re-entry (during the day).
Thanks for sharing additional details here at the PC.
Regarding the nature of the "mmAU," are you suggesting it was a (very advanced) man made drone of some type, or do you feel it was non-man made?
You are sure that the phenomenon that you saw close to your vehicle was not the re-entering satellite. However, I wonder—personally—if it was possible a piece that had separated from the main piece and had taken a different trajectory through the atmosphere which led it over your car. (Sorry to be skeptical; I'm not trying to challenge you, just trying to rule out all non-extraordinary possibilities.)
Has any radar data been gathered?
Here's a video I was able to find of a sat re-entry (during the day).
A: Putting out my MOS would certainly not be wise. It would assist in identifying me. But yes I have had interm TS clearances and currently.
I'm sorry after speaking with retired COL C. Halt, I must maintain a hidden identity, at least until I retire. It would really make life hard on me if I'm not careful.
A: I was looking up information passed on to me, and was looking up a case from the 80's (Rendalshon) that had similarities suggested my the investigators. Not only the sighting but information code and symbols.
DissectionStalker
Paranormal Adept
Your sighting is fantastic. I just need you to please clarify a bit more about what you saw. Also, thank you for your service to our country.
1) What was the closest distance it was from you in the *horizontal* direction? It went directly over your car too at 100 feet height or ? Did it move closer towards your car before moving away?
2) The "bottom view" or underneath is shaped exactly like what? A Triangle? [If triangle was it equal distances on each side?] Round? Oval? Football? Or what?
3) When it shot off with the strobe light, was it bright enough to light-up the area where you were too or just the sky where it was? Was the strobe bright like a camera flash or lightening strike? It lighted-up how much of the sky and/or ground too?
4) Does your wife agree with EXACTLY what you saw? What differences in the object did she see that you did *not* see too? It is important to know if there were any differences in the sighting between the two of you??? Often two witnesses can see the object with different characteristics, shape, size, etc.
5) Did either of you have any other physical or mental sensations or reactions during or after besides heat? Your watch times or sense of time did not change? Any unusual emotions or dreams or other thoughts that have effected you or your wife?
6) Did you feel as if the object was trying to communicate with either of you? Did either of you have any sense of personal contact or communication or detection or being scanned in some way? Did it seem to want to be seen and then move off?
7) Did your sense of sound and hearing change with the object nearby? Strange silence or enveloping feeling or ringing/humming that was detected and then went away after the object departed?
Thanks for taking your time to post here. Very interesting sighting, indeed.
I'll send you a PM here at Paracast [private message] with youtube links, so you can decide for yourself whether or not the MIC will know about this sighting. These interviews were done with very high-up MUFON people, and they believe it is definitely infiltrated by the MIC.
1) What was the closest distance it was from you in the *horizontal* direction? It went directly over your car too at 100 feet height or ? Did it move closer towards your car before moving away?
2) The "bottom view" or underneath is shaped exactly like what? A Triangle? [If triangle was it equal distances on each side?] Round? Oval? Football? Or what?
3) When it shot off with the strobe light, was it bright enough to light-up the area where you were too or just the sky where it was? Was the strobe bright like a camera flash or lightening strike? It lighted-up how much of the sky and/or ground too?
4) Does your wife agree with EXACTLY what you saw? What differences in the object did she see that you did *not* see too? It is important to know if there were any differences in the sighting between the two of you??? Often two witnesses can see the object with different characteristics, shape, size, etc.
5) Did either of you have any other physical or mental sensations or reactions during or after besides heat? Your watch times or sense of time did not change? Any unusual emotions or dreams or other thoughts that have effected you or your wife?
6) Did you feel as if the object was trying to communicate with either of you? Did either of you have any sense of personal contact or communication or detection or being scanned in some way? Did it seem to want to be seen and then move off?
7) Did your sense of sound and hearing change with the object nearby? Strange silence or enveloping feeling or ringing/humming that was detected and then went away after the object departed?
Thanks for taking your time to post here. Very interesting sighting, indeed.
I'll send you a PM here at Paracast [private message] with youtube links, so you can decide for yourself whether or not the MIC will know about this sighting. These interviews were done with very high-up MUFON people, and they believe it is definitely infiltrated by the MIC.
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DissectionStalker
Paranormal Adept
One last question... Are you being considered within the next year or so for any new assignments, positions, or promotions with your MOS status? Or, did you just recently get an new assignment?
If yes, then is this a high security position to protect something(s) very important or classified?
Also, let us know if they make you sign anything to "keep quiet" about this UFO.
Have you seen any other Human UFO's that many people would think were ET-UFO's?
Thanks again...
If yes, then is this a high security position to protect something(s) very important or classified?
Also, let us know if they make you sign anything to "keep quiet" about this UFO.
Have you seen any other Human UFO's that many people would think were ET-UFO's?
Thanks again...
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Randall
J. Randall Murphy
You're certainly not alone in wanting answers. But in the end, there is only one question that you need to answer with reasonable certainty. Was the object that you saw an alien craft? If not, then you'll have little trouble going back to the daily business of doing whatever it is that you do. On the other hand, if your experience has given you sufficient reason to believe that what you saw was an alien craft, then it won't be so easy to return to life like it was before. A genuine UFO experience is a powerful agent of change for one's worldview. If you're somewhere between belief and disbelief, then you have to wrestle with that until you identify the cause of your ambivalence. Is it based on an objective analysis of the perceptions from your experience? Or is it based on a psychological resistance to accepting the experience for what it was?
Burnt State
Paranormal Adept
On the skeptical side of things, @Crispy you have to admit the coincidence of the reentry and your sighting will make it a dubious report just on the face of things. No one can know what you two saw except you two. The static electricity and car failure at the time make the case much more compelling. However, the descriptions of sparks out the tail, illuminated windows and fluid orange glow are all descriptions much more consistent with a reentry. The fact that it's 1:30 am makes it hard to believe in either a dark blue sky or headlight illumination of the object. Seeing characters etched into the object also are hard to believe due to the distance of the object in the sky. Size, clarity and scale issues at night all come into play and those things are not on your side. Your sighting time jives with the reentry time and not subsequent objects reentering. Your descriptions and paintings (again, those are your paintings, correct?) make for some fascinating detail. But if the space debris falling off was the size of a tictac held at army's length then what sized object held at army's length would you say was the object you saw?
For what it's worth, numerous famous cases have been attempted to be dismissed by the work of Ted Molczan by exploring visible reentries up against UFO sightings. Chris Rutkowski, more of a sympathetic investigator, has examined the evidence from Molczan and hays this to say about it:
Ufology Research: Re-entries of rocket boosters... and UFOs
For what it's worth, numerous famous cases have been attempted to be dismissed by the work of Ted Molczan by exploring visible reentries up against UFO sightings. Chris Rutkowski, more of a sympathetic investigator, has examined the evidence from Molczan and hays this to say about it:
Ufology Research: Re-entries of rocket boosters... and UFOs
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DissectionStalker
Paranormal Adept
To Crispy: Please see my additional questions in my two posts above. Thanks.
"However as the actual eye witness to this event and my wife did not confuse the two together. As you will read in other reports the 're-entering space debris began crossing the Atlanta ga area at 0:130 am. Wadley GA is far east of Atlanta. My wife and I saw the 're-entering satellite 8 minutes later after we stopped at a gas station in Wadley."
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More than eight minutes apart from each sighting, right? That is far too long IMO for reentry of space debris to hang around and enter twice[?] after the gas station stop too? The UFO was seen before the gas station -correct?
It should be easy enough to investigate what the reentry was meant to do. Was it broken into two separate parts meant to enter separately? IF yes, then you may have a good point. There would definitely be multiple witnesses IF the debris entered separately more than 8 minutes apart. Also, the space reporting agency should have that information too, since they have to track the debris reentry over USA airspace too! This does not have to be left to question and not ever know, imo.
Burnt, you need to read his quote more carefully. These were two separate events they witnessed at two different locations more than 8 minutes apart. See quote below:
"However as the actual eye witness to this event and my wife did not confuse the two together. As you will read in other reports the 're-entering space debris began crossing the Atlanta ga area at 0:130 am. Wadley GA is far east of Atlanta. My wife and I saw the 're-entering satellite 8 minutes later after we stopped at a gas station in Wadley."
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More than eight minutes apart from each sighting, right? That is far too long IMO for reentry of space debris to hang around and enter twice[?] after the gas station stop too? The UFO was seen before the gas station -correct?
It should be easy enough to investigate what the reentry was meant to do. Was it broken into two separate parts meant to enter separately? IF yes, then you may have a good point. There would definitely be multiple witnesses IF the debris entered separately more than 8 minutes apart. Also, the space reporting agency should have that information too, since they have to track the debris reentry over USA airspace too! This does not have to be left to question and not ever know, imo.
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Randall
J. Randall Murphy
Not to mention that I don't see how re-entering space debris can appear to " increase in altitude and penetrate some clouds and accelerate out of sight through the cloud cover quickly." That would be a neat trick.
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