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CapnG said:Keep a bottle of Maalox or Pepto handy...
Gene Steinberg said:You can buy them by the case at one of those discount warehouse outlets, such as Costco and Sam's Club
A.LeClair said:Lets reverse Gene's speech on one of his programs. No use doing David's. I gather it will all say, "Mmmmm chocolate".
CapnG said:
Rick Deckard said:Did you watch all 24x5 minutes parts? I just did.
Rick Deckard said:I've had a feeling for a long time that 'something is not right with the world' - and before the 'skeptics' jump on me, I'm not saying that a 'reptilian matrix' is the explanation, I'm just saying that I have some sympathy with the notion that this 'reality' is not what it appears be.
Rick Deckard said:Does that make me a Pleiadean?
CapnG said:Doesn't everyone feel that way at some point in their lives? I can scarcely think of someone I know who hasn't.
Rick Deckard said:Ummm, in my experience the answer is no - my friends pretty much think I'm either deluded, paranoid, crazy or all three. I know better than to try and talk about this stuff in public, but they try and draw me into talking about these 'wacky' ideas so they can 'point and laugh'. In a way, talking about this stuff seems to keep me at a distance from them.
Rick Deckard said:My main 'crusade' in this area is to try and 'turn the tables' on people and ask questions like 'why wouldn't ETIs be coming here?'. I think too many 'ordinary' people react negatively to these topics rather than pause and think them through. I am pretty much convinced that this 'reaction' is actively encouraged throughout the mainstream media, schools and scientific institutions. I feel there is a active process keeping this stuff on the fringe and alienating those who 'pause for thought'.
musictomyears said:Yes, indeed. However, have you considered that by denying the reality of ETs and UFOs, people make it also much harder for the phenomena to manifest? I keep saying that thoughts create reality (and by now, some here are probably sick of me saying it). I am convinced that, should humanity in large numbers approach the subject with an open mind, rather than with a mixture of fear and ridicule, would we see regular and open contacts with ETs.
David Biedny said:I disagree. The only way that "regular and open contacts" with these unknown beings would happen is if they had something to gain by doing so, which seems to not be the case. The Universe does not do the bidding of talking monkeys, ego and vanity aside.
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musictomyears said:I am not sure I understand what you are saying. Are you saying that you don't believe any of the close encounter and abduction cases ever happened, but that they were merely fantasies? Or do you mean that you don't think that aliens could possibly gain something by interacting with us? If the latter, I'd say they could gain by furthering their knowledge, for example, similar to human explorers reaching out to indigenous tribes in various parts of the world. Some aliens might also want to help us with resolving the multitude of mostly self-created problems - a bit like interstellar missionaries. Some of the encounters with Pleiadeans sound a bit like that (I'm not talking about Billy Meier BS).
There is often an assumption that ETs are necessarily superior to us, on all levels. However, that doesn't seem to be the case. In the case of the greys, it seems pretty clear that they need to learn about humility in a big way, and regain faith in natural processes. I don't think any human would want to be in the shoes of a grey (do they wear shoes?), their situation is in no way enviable.
As for the Pleiadeans, as I understand it, they really struggle with handling negative emotions, but easily get overwhelmed by fear or the slightest hint of aggression - even fear or aggression felt by human contactees, which can make it difficult for Pleiadeans to stick around for any length of time. So, it appears there is some learning and experiencing waiting for them by coming here.
musictomyears said:have you considered that by denying the reality of ETs and UFOs, people make it also much harder for the phenomena to manifest?
David Biedny said:Let's be crystal clear about one thing: as far as I can see, there is no proof, NONE, that the entities cited in abduction and encounter scenarios are extraterrestrial. That's not to say that they might be - anything is possible. They might be from this planet, an older race than humans. They might be transdimensional. They might be from another planet, settled on the Earth long ago. We might be a genetic experiment of theirs. ANY of these scenarios are possible. When abductees say that they have been told that their abductors are from planet X or Y, I say that we cannot assume that these beings are being honest.
These creatures are obviously gaining something from their interactions with us, but to presume that we know anything about their purpose and agenda is laughable, IMO. Interstellar missionaries? Again, anything is possible, but somehow I doubt it. I'm hoping that these beings are not as insecure as humans, with a need to control the minds and hearts of other species. I reserve the right to be wrong.
Humans like to think that we are intelligent - I propose that we're seen as being far less intelligent than we think we are by any advanced race. Human vanity knows no bounds. Any creatures who would judge us by looking at the television signals originating from this planet would have to conclude that we're a bunch of psychotic, delusional monkeys with extremely violent tendencies and inflated egos, shallow little mammals with bad attitudes and a predisposition to lying. I mean, what do you think they make of all those commercials?
Pleiadeans? Zeta Reticulans? These star system names are human conventions. You mention faith - one of the greatest weaknesses of the human spirit, IMO. Faith allows one to believe in things which fly in the face of any sense of logic, reason, intelligence or actual observation. For my money, faith is what you get with people are too lazy to use their minds. Why would a non-human species want with our faith?
"Human explorers reaching out to indigenous tribes in various parts of the world"? Let's see how most of those actions turned out - entire societies killed off, the remains of the lands divided amongst the conquerers, their cultures subverted, their languages forgotten. Do you really want ETs to do that to us?
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David Biedny said:When abductees say that they have been told that their abductors are from planet X or Y, I say that we cannot assume that these beings are being honest.