Gene and cohost Tim Swartz present Christopher O’Brien, a former Paracast cohost. During this episode, Chris explains his skepticism of the controversial flying saucer landing/retrieval book, “Trinity — The Best-Kept Secret” from Paola Harris and Jacques Vallee. He also talks about his ongoing work to set up a worldwide network of UFO detectors, and covers the efforts of UFO researcher Ray Stanford. From 1999-2002 Chris investigated hundreds of unexplained events in south-central CO/north-central NM. His investigations are chronicled in his “Mysterious Valley” book trilogy and his event log of UFOs, cattle mutilations, crypto-creatures, etc., is one of the largest databases of unusual occurrences from a single region of North America. His recent book, Stalking the Herd, is the most comprehensive book ever written that addresses the ongoing and perplexing “cattle mutilation” mystery. From 2010 until 2018, Chris was the cohost of The Paracast.