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October 17, 2021
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Bryce Zabel, Co-Author of "A.D. After Disclosure," Talks About UFO Disclosure Prospects on The Paracast!
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This Week's Episode: Gene and special cohost Curt Collins present author/TV producer/screenwriter/UFO investigator Bryce Zabel, who returns to The Paracast to update us on what he's been working on since his last appearance. Eleven years after the speculative fiction story he and Richard M. Dolan wrote about the subject, “A.D. After Disclosure: When the Government Finally Reveals the Truth About Alien Contact,” Zabel talks about what he regards as the improved prospects for the secret of the UFOs — or UAPs — finally being revealed now that the U.S. government has established the Pentagon UAP Task Force. He'll also cover such hot topics as Roswell and abductions. A winner of the WGA award for screenwriting, Bryce has created and produced five primetime television series, including fan favorites Dark Skies and The Crow, and worked on a dozen TV writing staffs. A widely published essayist, he writes and edits the publication Trail of the Saucers on the Medium platform.
After The Paracast — Available exclusively for Paracast+ subscribers on October 17: Gene and special guest cohost Curt Collins discuss UFO franchises, such as Area 51 and Roswell. And what about the Men In Black, the original claims from Albert K. Bender as first reported by Gray Barker in "They Knew Too Much About Flying Saucers," an early best-selling book. Gene wonders, again, whether it's possible that a real flying saucer crash landed at Roswell, only to be recovered by aliens when the military tried to transport it. And what about the early work of UFO jokester Jim Moseley, who claimed to have smuggled ancient artifacts from Peru, but is also credited with publishing a highly-regarded effort to debunk contactee George Adamski? Curt specializes in exploring the early UFO culture in a site he runs with Claude Falkstrom, The Saucers that Time Forgot.
Reminder: Please don't forget to visit our famous Paracast Community Forums for the latest news/views/debates on all things paranormal: https://www.theparacast.com/forum/. Visit our new online shop for great branded merchandise at: https://www.theparacast.shop/, and check out our new YouTube channel at: https://www.youtube.com/c/TheOfficialParacastChannel
About a Certain Infamous UFO Franchise
By Gene Steinberg
It almost seems as if we’ve been discussing some UFO-related topics forever, and when you mention any of them, certain cultural references come to mind.
So there’s the perception that UFOs must be spaceships, and maybe we should be looking for some little green men. No, not that! The beings seen in connection with sightings aren’t green. That’s from comic books, but it’s also used by skeptics to promote a fake concept of what’s going on.
A major cultural meme that comes to mind is Roswell. But that’s a more recent phenomenon. In the 1950s and 1960s, we were’t talking about Roswell. When it came to possible UFO crashes, there was that claim about something happening in Aztec, NM in 1948. But the reference was mainly from an early saucer book, “Behind the Flying Saucers,” from gossip columnist Frank Scully.
The claim was mostly beaten back when it was revealed that Scully’s sources were two confidence men. All right, a few books over the years have tried to resurrect the tale — the most recent being in 2015 in one titled: “The Aztec UFO Incident: The Case, Evidence, and Elaborate Cover-up of One of the Most Perplexing Crashes in History.”
Written by Scott and Suzanne Ramsey and Dr. Frank Thayer, the book tried to alter Scully’s reputation from gossip into some sort of investigative reporter, and to “repair” the reputations of his sources. Actual evidence that something paranormal occurred was threadbare, with few quoted witnesses.
It was readily determined that there was no cultural memory of any UFO crash, let alone a sighting, in Aztec during the spring of 1948. I interviewed a retired engineer who lived in the area at the time, one Monte Shriver, who had pointed to a number of serious errors in the Ramsey book when it came to location details and other matters that could have been managed had the book been properly vetted and edited before it was published.
Long and short, the Aztec case, so far as I’m concerned, hasn’t survived the criticism.
Not so with that other famous New Mexico saucer crash, near Roswell in 1947. It occurred mere days after Kenneth Arnold’s legendary sighting of nine crescent-shaped objects flying in formation near Mount Rainier in the State of Washington, but as you know it was quickly buried.
The original version about a captured flying disk vanished from the newspapers within a day or so, only to be replaced by the report that it was all about the recovery of the wreckage of a crashed balloon.
What is curious about the original report, though, is that it referred to a captured disk, not a crash recovery. The conventional wisdom has it that the initial version was correct, and the revision was disinformation.
The military’s original press release, for example, contained this key sentence:
“The flying object landed on a ranch near Roswell sometime last week.”
But if that’s the case, how does a captured aircraft that appears to be intact, since there is no reference to it being damaged, and was reportedly “flown to higher headquarters,” become crash debris?
When you look at all the Roswell stories that emerged beginning in the late 1970s, it’s treated not as a landing but as a crash. So the assumption that the original story was correct, and was only changed to reflect a lid of secrecy being placed on the affair, leaves its own questions as to the condition of the craft. Indeed, the witnesses who came forth talked about wreckage and recovery.
But whatever actually happened at Roswell, and the jury is still out on that one as we approach 75 years since the original event, it has become an important part of pop culture. It’s not just the annual gatherings in Roswell, but using the story as fodder for a number of Hollywood productions.
Loads of books and magazine articles have been published on the subject. The CW TV network, which mostly features sci-fi, fantasy and super hero fare with a youthful orientation, has been broadcasting the third season of a drama known as “Roswell New Mexico.” The series is about a family with mysterious powers that came here from another planet, evidently in the Roswell spaceship.
The series, and its predecessor, were based a series of young adult novels, “Roswell High,” by Melinda Metz. Clearly she’s profited from exploiting pop culture.
The 1996 sci-fi popcorn blockbuster, “Independence Day,” places the crashed Roswell spaceship at Area 51. That’s two cultural franchises.
Now it doesn’t matter anymore whether the Roswell crash involved a balloon, a test aircraft, or an alien aircraft. The Roswell legend persists.
That may explain why the Pentagon UAP Task Force deliberately stayed away from older UFO cases. The specter of Roswell would surely have arisen, and the authorities would be asked to explain what really happened in the New Mexico desert in 1947. If it really involved a crashed spaceship, where was the wreckage taken? What has been done to it? Have efforts been made to reverse engineer its technology? What about the bodies of aliens? Were they given autopsies?
By focusing on events that start with the 2004 Naval “Tac Tac” sightings, the subject isn’t being raised.
Now in 2022 when the 75th anniversary occurs, maybe things will change. That’s what producer/screenwriter/Ufologist Bryce Zabel is suggesting in his latest appearance on The Paracast.
Of course, the government might just rely on its previous explanations — or excuses — for Roswell and that will be it. But if they possess physical evidence that ET is here, what’s the point of having a new investigation that pretends it never happened?
Not to belabor the point, but I can see where the original Roswell story might have been correct, but the aftermath was suppressed. Perhaps a flying saucer did crash land near Roswell. Perhaps the authorities attempted to recover the craft, but its pilots were able to fix the damage and they simply took off. Or their companions came to recover the craft while it was being transported from the scene.
How would the military handle the recovery — and subsequent loss — of evidence that ET was visiting us? Would that explain the cover story about the wreckage of a crashed balloon somehow being mistaken for a flying disk?
Not that I necessarily believe in the possibility, but I say again that it strains logic to suggest that advanced beings wouldn’t try to recover their crashed vehicle rather than just hang back and leave it in the hands of primitive humans.
That is, if the Roswell episode really involved a flying saucer crash, and that’s something that has never actually been proven despite all the positive testimony.
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October 17, 2021
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Bryce Zabel, Co-Author of "A.D. After Disclosure," Talks About UFO Disclosure Prospects on The Paracast!
The Paracast is heard Sundays from 3:00 AM until 6:00 AM Central Time on the GCN Radio Network and affiliates around the USA, the Boost Radio Network, the IRN Internet Radio Network, and online across the globe via download and on-demand streaming.
SUPPORT THE SHOW AND ENJOY THE ULTIMATE PARACAST EXPERIENCE AT A SPECIAL LOW PRICE! We have another radio show and we’d love for you listen to it. So for a low subscription fee, you will receive access to an exclusive podcast, After The Paracast, plus an enhanced version of The Paracast with the network ads removed, when you join The Paracast+. We also offer a special RSS feed for easy updates of the latest episodes on your device. Flash! Use the coupon code ufo20 to receive a 20% discount on five-year or lifetime subscriptions. And PayPal now accepts cryptocurrencies, such as Bitcoin, in payment, so act now! For the easiest signup ever, please visit: https://www.theparacast.plus
This Week's Episode: Gene and special cohost Curt Collins present author/TV producer/screenwriter/UFO investigator Bryce Zabel, who returns to The Paracast to update us on what he's been working on since his last appearance. Eleven years after the speculative fiction story he and Richard M. Dolan wrote about the subject, “A.D. After Disclosure: When the Government Finally Reveals the Truth About Alien Contact,” Zabel talks about what he regards as the improved prospects for the secret of the UFOs — or UAPs — finally being revealed now that the U.S. government has established the Pentagon UAP Task Force. He'll also cover such hot topics as Roswell and abductions. A winner of the WGA award for screenwriting, Bryce has created and produced five primetime television series, including fan favorites Dark Skies and The Crow, and worked on a dozen TV writing staffs. A widely published essayist, he writes and edits the publication Trail of the Saucers on the Medium platform.
After The Paracast — Available exclusively for Paracast+ subscribers on October 17: Gene and special guest cohost Curt Collins discuss UFO franchises, such as Area 51 and Roswell. And what about the Men In Black, the original claims from Albert K. Bender as first reported by Gray Barker in "They Knew Too Much About Flying Saucers," an early best-selling book. Gene wonders, again, whether it's possible that a real flying saucer crash landed at Roswell, only to be recovered by aliens when the military tried to transport it. And what about the early work of UFO jokester Jim Moseley, who claimed to have smuggled ancient artifacts from Peru, but is also credited with publishing a highly-regarded effort to debunk contactee George Adamski? Curt specializes in exploring the early UFO culture in a site he runs with Claude Falkstrom, The Saucers that Time Forgot.
Reminder: Please don't forget to visit our famous Paracast Community Forums for the latest news/views/debates on all things paranormal: https://www.theparacast.com/forum/. Visit our new online shop for great branded merchandise at: https://www.theparacast.shop/, and check out our new YouTube channel at: https://www.youtube.com/c/TheOfficialParacastChannel
About a Certain Infamous UFO Franchise
By Gene Steinberg
It almost seems as if we’ve been discussing some UFO-related topics forever, and when you mention any of them, certain cultural references come to mind.
So there’s the perception that UFOs must be spaceships, and maybe we should be looking for some little green men. No, not that! The beings seen in connection with sightings aren’t green. That’s from comic books, but it’s also used by skeptics to promote a fake concept of what’s going on.
A major cultural meme that comes to mind is Roswell. But that’s a more recent phenomenon. In the 1950s and 1960s, we were’t talking about Roswell. When it came to possible UFO crashes, there was that claim about something happening in Aztec, NM in 1948. But the reference was mainly from an early saucer book, “Behind the Flying Saucers,” from gossip columnist Frank Scully.
The claim was mostly beaten back when it was revealed that Scully’s sources were two confidence men. All right, a few books over the years have tried to resurrect the tale — the most recent being in 2015 in one titled: “The Aztec UFO Incident: The Case, Evidence, and Elaborate Cover-up of One of the Most Perplexing Crashes in History.”
Written by Scott and Suzanne Ramsey and Dr. Frank Thayer, the book tried to alter Scully’s reputation from gossip into some sort of investigative reporter, and to “repair” the reputations of his sources. Actual evidence that something paranormal occurred was threadbare, with few quoted witnesses.
It was readily determined that there was no cultural memory of any UFO crash, let alone a sighting, in Aztec during the spring of 1948. I interviewed a retired engineer who lived in the area at the time, one Monte Shriver, who had pointed to a number of serious errors in the Ramsey book when it came to location details and other matters that could have been managed had the book been properly vetted and edited before it was published.
Long and short, the Aztec case, so far as I’m concerned, hasn’t survived the criticism.
Not so with that other famous New Mexico saucer crash, near Roswell in 1947. It occurred mere days after Kenneth Arnold’s legendary sighting of nine crescent-shaped objects flying in formation near Mount Rainier in the State of Washington, but as you know it was quickly buried.
The original version about a captured flying disk vanished from the newspapers within a day or so, only to be replaced by the report that it was all about the recovery of the wreckage of a crashed balloon.
What is curious about the original report, though, is that it referred to a captured disk, not a crash recovery. The conventional wisdom has it that the initial version was correct, and the revision was disinformation.
The military’s original press release, for example, contained this key sentence:
“The flying object landed on a ranch near Roswell sometime last week.”
But if that’s the case, how does a captured aircraft that appears to be intact, since there is no reference to it being damaged, and was reportedly “flown to higher headquarters,” become crash debris?
When you look at all the Roswell stories that emerged beginning in the late 1970s, it’s treated not as a landing but as a crash. So the assumption that the original story was correct, and was only changed to reflect a lid of secrecy being placed on the affair, leaves its own questions as to the condition of the craft. Indeed, the witnesses who came forth talked about wreckage and recovery.
But whatever actually happened at Roswell, and the jury is still out on that one as we approach 75 years since the original event, it has become an important part of pop culture. It’s not just the annual gatherings in Roswell, but using the story as fodder for a number of Hollywood productions.
Loads of books and magazine articles have been published on the subject. The CW TV network, which mostly features sci-fi, fantasy and super hero fare with a youthful orientation, has been broadcasting the third season of a drama known as “Roswell New Mexico.” The series is about a family with mysterious powers that came here from another planet, evidently in the Roswell spaceship.
The series, and its predecessor, were based a series of young adult novels, “Roswell High,” by Melinda Metz. Clearly she’s profited from exploiting pop culture.
The 1996 sci-fi popcorn blockbuster, “Independence Day,” places the crashed Roswell spaceship at Area 51. That’s two cultural franchises.
Now it doesn’t matter anymore whether the Roswell crash involved a balloon, a test aircraft, or an alien aircraft. The Roswell legend persists.
That may explain why the Pentagon UAP Task Force deliberately stayed away from older UFO cases. The specter of Roswell would surely have arisen, and the authorities would be asked to explain what really happened in the New Mexico desert in 1947. If it really involved a crashed spaceship, where was the wreckage taken? What has been done to it? Have efforts been made to reverse engineer its technology? What about the bodies of aliens? Were they given autopsies?
By focusing on events that start with the 2004 Naval “Tac Tac” sightings, the subject isn’t being raised.
Now in 2022 when the 75th anniversary occurs, maybe things will change. That’s what producer/screenwriter/Ufologist Bryce Zabel is suggesting in his latest appearance on The Paracast.
Of course, the government might just rely on its previous explanations — or excuses — for Roswell and that will be it. But if they possess physical evidence that ET is here, what’s the point of having a new investigation that pretends it never happened?
Not to belabor the point, but I can see where the original Roswell story might have been correct, but the aftermath was suppressed. Perhaps a flying saucer did crash land near Roswell. Perhaps the authorities attempted to recover the craft, but its pilots were able to fix the damage and they simply took off. Or their companions came to recover the craft while it was being transported from the scene.
How would the military handle the recovery — and subsequent loss — of evidence that ET was visiting us? Would that explain the cover story about the wreckage of a crashed balloon somehow being mistaken for a flying disk?
Not that I necessarily believe in the possibility, but I say again that it strains logic to suggest that advanced beings wouldn’t try to recover their crashed vehicle rather than just hang back and leave it in the hands of primitive humans.
That is, if the Roswell episode really involved a flying saucer crash, and that’s something that has never actually been proven despite all the positive testimony.
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