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Ok., I'm about to climb out on a limb. As I have no classical training in any of the disciplines which would add weight to this theory. But here I go.
There has been a lot of discussion concerning the possibility that these entities and objects., (though I personally believe the two are interchangeable) are extra/interdimensional in nature.
All 3D objects exhibit 1st and 2nd dimensional aspects., and thus would be visible in said realms. There is probably a lower dimension which could be expressed as a "point" or static non-linear reality.
Let's assume that that point is the foundation for all the higher structures.,(I'm not going to get into negative dimensions). A shared misconception seems to be that 4th dimensional space is a room who's door is closed to us.
Let's say we go for a swim. We find ourselves waist deep. If the water is clear we look down and see a strange facsimile of our legs and feet., (optics, lucidity). We kick up some mud/silt and our lower half fades to nonexistence.
We no longer perceive it though we know it's there. The boundary is simply the surface of the water and elements within it. Of course all of this is perceived within a 3 dimensional context. After a few hours we no longer feel our lower half., (hypothermia). What evidence do we now have of it's existence? Well, we know we're standing on something. And ever so often., the water clears and we catch a glimpse of our fabled legs and feet. A few more hours pass. We are now fading in and out of conciousness., dreaming of our lower fins, claws, wheels., no., legs. The dreamscape may be the closest thing we have to a model of the 4th dimension. Because on that level., conciousness may be a concrete entity., like a pair of legs or hands. And these "aliens" may be looking down on some lower aspects of themselves., us. Oh, yes., there's also the issue of time. On this level it is a linear experience., past, present, future. I think the next level is not temporally constrained. Or at least there is an additional aspect to time.

What do you think?
 
It's not bad. Why for example using your analogy does it appear that the closer the entity gets to seeing or realizing it's other half the more resistant it gets from actually being able to do that. Once the person realized what is going on it would be in the best interest of the entire being to get out of the water.

I think that movies like The Matrix and Dark City might have a better take on this IMO.
 
It's not bad. Why for example using your analogy does it appear that the closer the entity gets to seeing or realizing it's other half the more resistant it gets from actually being able to do that. Once the person realized what is going on it would be in the best interest of the entire being to get out of the water.

I think that movies like The Matrix and Dark City might have a better take on this IMO.

"Row, row, row your boat. Life is but a dream"?
Or lesser aspects of Vishnu., the dreaming god?

Yes., it's easy to focus on the negative aspects of the phenomena. Boot camp is no walk through the park. Rough climb to the hall of Zeus. Some times., in an effort to resuscitate a patient the compression of the sternum can lead to cracked ribs., (awfully painful). I swallowed a whole bottle of orange flavored, childrens' aspirin once when I was around 3 or 4yrs old. The only memory I have of the incident., is being strapped to a table., blinding light in my eyes as these strange figures forced a tube down my throat. I was confused and terrified. And they saved my life.
 
Your right that my outlook is negative... so where is Greer. I need his week long brainwashing, call in the ships get all thoses nasty bad thoughts out of my head experience. OK I am just yanking your chain.

Well what can I say I am still trying to figure all of this stuff out also and some of it feels negative and trying to contols us in some way.

I also have had what feel like positive experiences too with these other dimensions. What I haven't had is an answer as to what this is or why this is happening.
 
I feel for you. My own experiences led me through madness and attempted suicide. Greer is an example., (rather like Jim Jones)., of someone who, perhaps with the best intentions, becomes twisted by ego. All of the worlds religions have., (I believe), suffered the taint of such people. It is sad, and ultimately destructive to them and those who choose to follow.

The subjective., sometimes extremely personal nature of the phenomena can have an adverse affect on individuals who are borderline to begin with. "This is my son., in whom I am well pleased" We each have the potential to become mentors/teachers. But when we start writing ourselves into some cosmological hierarchy., as "the way" or "the chosen" then we have inserted our own fears, arrogance, imperfections into a process that was possibly intended to purge us of such preconceptions.
 
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