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Space Science

Do you think humans will ever colonize another planet?

  • Yes. By the year 2100

    Votes: 2 25.0%
  • Yes. By the year 2200

    Votes: 2 25.0%
  • Yes. By the year 2300

    Votes: 1 12.5%
  • Yes. By the year 2400

    Votes: 1 12.5%
  • Yes. By the year 2500

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • No. The distances are just too large.

    Votes: 2 25.0%
  • No. Human civilization will self destruct before we become sufficiently advanced.

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • No. Natural disasters will set us back too often to make sufficient progress.

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    8

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J. Randall Murphy
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There's not a choice for the option I would choose:
@ Mankind has already colonized other planets.
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I thought about adding that one in, but I'm trying to keep this thread founded more in the science we have developed within the time span of our recorded history. If we've colonized other worlds already, I think it would have been with the help of an alien civilization because no sufficient ancient technology has ever been found to support the idea that humans built interstellar craft eons ago. Also evolutionary studies strongly suggest that we evolved here and didn't simply arrive from someplace else.
 
I thought about adding that one in, but I'm trying to keep this thread founded more in the science we have developed within the time span of our recorded history. If we've colonized other worlds already, I think it would have been with the help of an alien civilization because no sufficient ancient technology has ever been found to support the idea that humans built interstellar craft eons ago. Also evolutionary studies strongly suggest that we evolved here and didn't simply arrive from someplace else.

So it's a mainstream question?
Conventional wisdom tells me:
I can't see humans colonizing anything past the moon any time soon.
And our current tech is woefully inadequate. There are occassional announcements of breakthroughs and some things being worked on, but space flight is just kinda being toyed with...no serious undertakings are going on for deep space.
Unless something happens to spur people along.... apathy, greed, and absence of vision will keep us dirtside. Or at least within earths gravity in orbit.

Now, if Mars rover Curiosity were to discover scantily clad beautiful Martian women that wanted to party, Martian bourbon and beer plants for the taking, and some kind of manly Martian sport....humans would be there in droves this time next year.

I guess it's all in the motivation.
 
Haven't heard from you for a while, Randall ... hope all's well!

My concern with mirrors in space is the brutal fate of our beautiful birds, like majestic flocks of Canada geese, will suffer by being incinerated while flying through the beams! (Not to mention other beings, humans included, who will be hit when the beam direction equipment fails.) GOLLY, I hope sane and compassionate people everywhere will stop this nonsense SOON!

Not to mention that "science" has no idea which of the proposed "benefits" will spawn lots of nasty unforseen "malefits" as well ... (and who gets to speak for "science" anyway!)

!#$%^&*

- Squirrel
 
I have reservations about 4000 mirrors in Space. When I think of light, I think of heat. Will the climate grow warmer when these mirrors are in use? Will they upset the biological clock of nature with its untimely or misplaced light?
If the government is funding, defense use of the mirrors is most likely.
 
I have reservations about 4000 mirrors in Space. When I think of light, I think of heat. Will the climate grow warmer when these mirrors are in use?
That's funny because of the absolute irony — So many people are in climate panic mode over global warming — so here's an idea — let's put 4000 giant suntanning mirrors beaming the Sun's radiation back to planet Earth — what could possibly go wrong? 😒
Will they upset the biological clock of nature with its untimely or misplaced light? If the government is funding, defense use of the mirrors is most likely.
Indeed — but these days if you say anything that favors environmental preservation over big energy, suddenly you're labeled an eco-terrorist.
 
Haven't heard from you for a while, Randall ... hope all's well!

My concern with mirrors in space is the brutal fate of our beautiful birds, like majestic flocks of Canada geese, will suffer by being incinerated while flying through the beams! (Not to mention other beings, humans included, who will be hit when the beam direction equipment fails.) GOLLY, I hope sane and compassionate people everywhere will stop this nonsense SOON!

Not to mention that "science" has no idea which of the proposed "benefits" will spawn lots of nasty unforseen "malefits" as well ... (and who gets to speak for "science" anyway!)

!#$%^&*

- Squirrel

Thanks and the same in return :)

I think I might have actually witnessed an early test of one of these mirrors over Calgary. I might have even mentioned it on one of the shows. It was about that level of brightness outside — at least twice that of a full Moon ( maybe more ). I could make my way around the house — even into the basement — without having to turn any lights on. It's never been that bright outside at night before or after the whole time I've lived here ( around 40 years now ).
 
Scientific data confirms interstellar comet 3I/ATLAS is a natural object
"The critical discovery was made on October 24, just days before the comet's perihelion, or closest solar approach, on October 29. The MeerKAT telescope, an array of 64 radio dishes, detected specific radio emissions from the object. This was not a structured, technological signal but a natural emission tied to the presence of hydroxyl radicals, or OH molecules, in the comet’s coma."
 
Scientific data confirms interstellar comet 3I/ATLAS is a natural object
"The critical discovery was made on October 24, just days before the comet's perihelion, or closest solar approach, on October 29. The MeerKAT telescope, an array of 64 radio dishes, detected specific radio emissions from the object. This was not a structured, technological signal but a natural emission tied to the presence of hydroxyl radicals, or OH molecules, in the comet’s coma."
I am glad we got the answer but I am also pleased that we have people like Abi out there who care more about the truth than their reputation.
 
I am glad we got the answer but I am also pleased that we have people like Abi out there who care more about the truth than their reputation.

Personally — I remain skeptical in that it could be some sort of cover story. You might remember a similar thing happened with the Breakthrough Listen project when they identified a technological signal from Proxima. They made sure that it was legit before publishing, but then they retracted it with a cover story, and then later they quietly retracted the retraction — and now nobody talks about it.

What makes me even more skeptical is how all the coverage on this shouts out in big bold headlines how these radiio signals debunk the theory of 3I being technological. What makes them so sure? After all — Plasma around spacecraft generates radio waves during reentry. Does that mean the spacecraft isn't technological? All this over-emphasis isn't conclusive — but it does make me more suspicious.
 
Personally — I remain skeptical in that it could be some sort of cover story. You might remember a similar thing happened with the Breakthrough Listen project when they identified a technological signal from Proxima. They made sure that it was legit before publishing, but then they retracted it with a cover story, and then later they quietly retracted the retraction — and now nobody talks about it.

What makes me even more skeptical is how all the coverage on this shouts out in big bold headlines how these radiio signals debunk the theory of 3I being technological. What makes them so sure? After all — Plasma around spacecraft generates radio waves during reentry. Does that mean the spacecraft isn't technological? All this over-emphasis isn't conclusive — but it does make me more suspicious.
The plot thickens as always.
 
Personally — I remain skeptical in that it could be some sort of cover story. You might remember a similar thing happened with the Breakthrough Listen project when they identified a technological signal from Proxima. They made sure that it was legit before publishing, but then they retracted it with a cover story, and then later they quietly retracted the retraction — and now nobody talks about it.

What makes me even more skeptical is how all the coverage on this shouts out in big bold headlines how these radiio signals debunk the theory of 3I being technological. What makes them so sure? After all — Plasma around spacecraft generates radio waves during reentry. Does that mean the spacecraft isn't technological? All this over-emphasis isn't conclusive — but it does make me more suspicious.
Randall I found that episode I was looking for and actually you were actually the co-host. It was a guy who wrote a fictional book called Traveler based on stories from Roswell. Good show.
 
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