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Is THE PARACAST avoiding the abduction phenomenon?

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QUESTION:
Is THE PARACAST avoiding the abduction phenomenon?

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Okay, there are all kinds of problems with the heavy-handed term "abduction" and maybe there is a better word. Contactee? Experiencer? For the purposes of this posting, I'll use the very loaded term - abduction.

I went thru the PARACAST shows and came up with a surprisingly small number of guests with a focus on the Abduction Phenomenon. Alas - the list is quite probably incomplete, I may have missed more than a few. And, some of these guests have been on more than once.

Here they are:
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* Stanton Friedman & Kathleen Marden talking about Betty & Barney Hill

* Dave Jacobs

* Dr. Roger Leir (implants)

* Sean Casteel (a little bit)

* Jim Sparks

* Derrel Simms

* Stan Romanek

* Jeff Ritzman

* The Clueless One


In a recent talk by Richard Dolan, he spoke about the potential problems with disclosure. And one of the obstacles is that the disclosure folks need to deal with the abduction phenomenon.

He poses it like this:

Some government official has a press conference and declares that, yes, the UFO stories are legitimate and we are sharing all that we know. But, don't worry.

The first question from the audience is: "What about these Abduction stories? People claim to be abducted from their bedrooms, their memories tampered and they are completely controlled. So, THIS is true too - Right?"

This issue is complicated and downright WEIRD.

The disclosure people seem to be more comfortable ignoring this end of the UFO phenomenon, rather than open up a bag of worms.

Is the PARACAST more comfortable avoiding it too?

I ask because the ongoing content of the show is "light" on this subject. And maybe I'm just particularly fascinated with this very intriguing subject. I like the show, it's refreshing and tries to look at a lot of different associated subjects. But, like other researchers - the abduction thing seems under reported on the show.

Anyway - it's a sort of pattern, and I'm curious why.

peace,
Mike C!
 
Jacque Vallee.


Horn was on about a contactee case, however it's a hoax, but I think Jim Sparks is full of it too. Nonetheless, I felt I should add it.

Many researchers they've had on touch on abductions.

Your list proves they aren't ignoring it. Many seem to think ufos and this whole alien business is the most dealt with subject on the Paracast.

Feel free to suggest guests.
 
I suggest bringing on the guys involved in the Allagash abductions from '76 or the Australien abuductee Kelly Cahill.Both cases have multible witnesses,as well as markings on the bodies of the people involved.The Cahill case also has landing trace evidence from the craft.
I have seen the witnesses interviewed before and they seem very credible.
 
Reply to the posting above:
"I suggest bringing on the guys involved in the Allagash abductions"


Oh my word YES. That story is SO bizarre and strangely believable.

I briefly met two of the folks, Jim & Chuck. THey spoke in Laughlin. Those two were so darned NORMAL that it makes the whole story even weirder. All the stuff with the high quality illustrations. They were all art students, and the drawing work is really compelling.

I agree, I know that those two were very open, not at all preachy, genuinely perplexed and really credible.

M!
 
Mikec:
Have you heard of Kelly Cahill?
There's a couple of video's up on youtube and Google Video that you should really check out - just type inn "Kelly Cahill".
The video's are called "Kelly Cahill Encounter"(7mins) and "UFO Connection -Australia Encounter"(52mins)...
 
Mike,
Did you attend the September 2001 UFO conferecne in Laughlin? Do you have a friend named Janis Abriel? If so I have met you if not then never mind.
 
Yes - I am a little bit familiar with the Kelly Cahill Encounter.

I've read about it, and I had seen the 7 minute clip.

THis is a fascinating story. And the woman Kelly seems very believable. The fact that investigators tracked down TWO different sets people that had corroborating stories. This story is NOT sleep apnea!!!

She would be great! And who researched that one? Was that Bill Chalker?

thanks - M!


Also - thru the magic of personal messaging, Ally and I realize that we haven't met each other. Alas, another Mike C is out there...
 
Yes. He's Australian. He was recently interviewed on the Tim Binnall audio podcast thing. Very well spoken fellow.

And - I have a book he wrote (from 2005) titled HAIR OF THE ALIEN.

He wrote another book titled THE OZ FILES that I haven't read.
 
Leah Haley.

Four books, hundreds of lectures, abducted by both aliens AND the military (MILABS), she's the real deal, and before any of this happened to her, she was a nice married Christian accountant lady that had NO interest in UFOs.

Afterward, she got harassed by the military, black helicopters over her house, had her phone tapped, was recorded, heard strange voices over her phone and was nearly shot by military personnel when she was led to an area in Florida that housed a part of a military payload for the space shuttle that was secret. She was intentionally led to a place that was being guarded from the public where use of deadly force was authorized (she was teaching an accounting class in that facility).

Leah Haley has appeared on Joan Rivers, Encounters, Dreamland, been featured in OMNI, been published in International UFO Library Magazine, UFO Universe, and is a CPA with TWO masters' degrees. She is the most articulate and credible of all the (still living) abductees.

I think she's ready for the Paracast.

She's lectured from California to Florida about her meetings with different types of "aliens", and the subsequent harassment, kidnapping, drugging, brainwashing and even shock treatments she received at the hands of uninformed men that appeared to be US military personnel trying to learn why aliens are interested in her.

It would be a terrible tragedy if she were not invited on the Paracast to tell her story, and she joined Marc and Karla by means of some unfortunate incident, God forbid.

Put any other abductees on hold. Leah Haley remembers what happened to her without hypnosis, had scoop marks, scars and scratches on her skin that she photographed, had the three little red triangles on her stomach, was shown hybrid babies, the whole bit.

If you aren't familiar with the Leah Haley story, find her books any way you can, go to the library, get them on interlibrary loan, whatever. They are the most interesting abductee books you'll ever read.

Lost was the Key is her first book and her new one is called Unlocking Alien Closets. I've read them both and they are stunning reads. They're both available on Amazon or from Greenleaf Publications.

Get them used on Amazon, beg, borrow or steal to get the money, do whatever you have to, these are great books that tell true stories of what our government does to nice, petite American women that don't back down to bullies and intimidation.

You'll also get a peek at an EMP device the the Air Force used to shoot down a UFO while Ms. Haley was aboard during an abduction. These experiences would have torn just about any other human being apart, but they made Leah Haley stronger and now she's lost her husband. We should give her a chance to tell her story, or at least to sell some books.

She's a nice lady, smart, open to questions and other points of view. She knows what she saw and is willing to talk about it--but doesn't shamelessly self-promote like Jim Sparks and one-armed Swiss bandits (which is why I'm so keen to go to bat for her).

At least read about her on the web if nothing else. I believe there are elements to her story that are key to solving the abduction question.
 
Here's a flyer from when Marc and Leah did a lecture together here.
 

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Yes - I have really strong supportive feelings for Ms. Haley.

I read UNLOCKING ALIEN CLOSETS and I was so sympathetic to her.

She tells her story with such a mixed up sense of paranoia and confusion. I know this sounds like a criticism, but it's NOT. I felt immersed in her world of extreme strangeness.

Yes - she would be wonderful. She has been interviewed twice on Whitley Streiber's DREAMLAND.

She isn't preachy. and at the same time, she is genuinely confused and worried. She is very human, and (as I say above) it makes her really sympathetic.

She was also married (and recently divorced from) to Marc Davenport, who died within the last month or so. She's had a hard go of it.


- also -

I'll a set of pages (below) that I scanned recently (for none other than Mac Tonnies). It's from UNLOCKING ALIEN CLOSET
 
mikec said:
Yes - I have really strong supportive feelings for Ms. Haley.

I read UNLOCKING ALIEN CLOSETS and I was so sympathetic to her.

She tells her story with such a mixed up sense of paranoia and confusion. I know this sounds like a criticism, but it's NOT. I felt immersed in her world of extreme strangeness.

Yes - she would be wonderful. She has been interviewed twice on Whitley Streiber's DREAMLAND.

She isn't preachy. and at the same time, she is genuinely confused and worried. She is very human, and (as I say above) it makes her really sympathetic.
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You know, that's strange, because I've always seen her as a strong woman, that, even though she went through some harrowing experiences, always came out of it stronger them.

She's always struck me as someone that (like the other high-profile female abductee/researchers, Karla, Katharina Wilson, etc.) had this fighting spirit like, "I don't care if you're alien or human military--whoever you are, you're not gonna get my goat!" She has always had a lot of faith and draws on it for strength (something I could never do since I don't have any), and is a very independent lady. Even when she and Marc were together, I got the impression that their marriage was not a usual one in the sense that they didn't need each other, but complemented each other in a supportive way.

They've both very important people to me personally, A) because I knew them personally, but also because their research answered so many questions for me that other UFO books and researchers never did.

One of the things, especially as a UFO lecture promoter, that always kind of ticked me off was that whenever you hear someone speak (especially in the old days), it was always UFOs 101 and Roswell again, over and over.

Marc and Lea were different--it was like taking a 500 level class. Intermediate level. They gave you the benefit of the doubt that you knew all the primary school stuff, and moved on to the the "why" of visitation, the answers to the questions, instead of the same old "who and where and when" stuff that everybody always does in slide shows and multimedia lectures.

I hope that Leah continues to forge ahead and continue her research and that the loss of such a great investigator, smart and caring man in her life won't leave too big a hole in her life. He must have been the source of a lot of support and comfort for her.

When they came to town, the local TV news did a spot with Marc the first day, and a spot with Leah the second day. I really hope I can find a tape of that--to send to her. It was a fairly long segments, and while it didn't really help the attendance (it was sold out anyway), it showed a young and strong Marc and Leah, right after they'd been married and both of them being articulate, smart and knowledgeable.
 
mikec said:
Reply to the posting above:
"I suggest bringing on the guys involved in the Allagash abductions"


Oh my word YES. That story is SO bizarre and strangely believable.

I briefly met two of the folks, Jim & Chuck. THey spoke in Laughlin. Those two were so darned NORMAL that it makes the whole story even weirder. All the stuff with the high quality illustrations. They were all art students, and the drawing work is really compelling.

I agree, I know that those two were very open, not at all preachy, genuinely perplexed and really credible.

M!
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Is this the case of the four fisherman that woke up on shore hours later and a bon fire that was just embers? I believe two of the guys won't talk about it anymore.
 
I attended a conference that had one of the guys speak there. Charlie Folts I think his name is.

One of the guys is skeptical about the experience. He's in denial, or simply just doesn't believe they were abducted. He doesn't care to talk about it, but I can't recall him absolutely refusing to. Maybe he does these days though.

There's a park ranger who reports seeing the same, or similar ufo in the region around the time the 4 did. Interesting case. Anyone interested in Abductions should read up on it.
 
I'm pretty sure their artistic skills changed in a big way after their abduction.

This was an early (comparatively) abduction, and involved four guys, two of whom were twins. This makes it an exceptional case.

I've seen the twins on TV before, and one of them just goes on and on about how crazy it sounds--I think he was reticent to talk about it before because he didn't want to sound crazy. The other twin seemed more willing to talk about it.

Nowadays, with all the abduction stuff going on, you'd think they'd be more willing to be open about what happened... I mean, on the TV show, you could see them going through regressive hypnotherapy. It's not like they're bloody anonymous...

I think they would make good guests for the Paracast, both or either one.
 
The book is called THE ALIGASH ABDUCTIONS by Raymond Fowler.

Also, there was a comic book done by several (two?) of them, and it's really interesting too.
 
The Allagash Abductions, of course. Minor spelling point.

Sorry, English major.

Jim & Jack Weiner.

Wiki here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allagash_Abductions

And, if they don't have a book or something to push, why would they want to come on the show? Or any show? Maybe they feel they've contributed to the field enough as is and don't want to be dragged through the mud anymore.

I couldn't blame them.
 
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