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But Gene, if you claim that she intentionally took quotes out of context and intentionally editted tapes to prove her point, then without using the word you are saying she is lieing, aren't you? I realize we are all too polite to use that word, but if I presented audio evidence that I asserted...

Emma, I would consider this firm advice for YOU. Stop wasting your time here unless you like being (in so many words) repeatedly called a lyer. I think you should cut your loses and leave before you/I are banned.

Gene, with utmost respect, you seem to be going on the following: 1. The words of David Jacobs, which you seem to be giving incredible weight 2. Discounting the words of Emma and her tapes, and insisting that anything that shows Jacobs in a bad light MUST be editted or taken out of context. You...

To my knowledge, no one has said this publically except Donna. She definitely was a skeptic going into this with Mack, and was able to fake an hypnosis trance and give him the most outlandish details (being on a space ship with Kennedy and Kruschef? Give me a break!!). But Mack bought it because...

Emma, thank you. Yes, I've received a lot of private emails and private messages thanking me for my input here, although most of those people do not post themselves, but lurk about like angels above the fray. I seriously do not have anything further to say about alien abduction research by...

One point that may be missed is that Donna claims that John Mack sent her a thick manilla folder size package BEFORE she came to her first appointment with him. Inside the package were descriptions of abduction scenarios and Mack's viewpoint on abduction. In other words, the patient was being...

I've attacked no one here, unless you identify so strongly with Budd Hopkins and David Jacobs that you take my jibs at them personally. If so, I apologize for casting aspersions on your heroes. The only person on this forum who I would suggest "gives attitude" is Archie. Even the moderator, Paul...

Use logic to disagree with me. Don't just insult me or give me attitude (e.g., that I am just too stupid to understand the use and time involved in the pursuit of science....blah, blah, blah). So you fall for every abduction researcher's pitch. That is very self-evident. You are part of the...

As you read it, keep reminding yourself that "it's only a story - it's all make-believe" so that you don't become afraid that you are secretly surrounded by horny alien hybrids. Frankly, if I was young and dating, I'd demand to see a birth certificate before I went out with anyone, since I...

Well, you sure put ME in my place! :D:D:D:D:D:D:D Just between you and me, I think I will be using free energy devices to power my car and home electrical systems far before Budd or other abduction researchers use "science" to accomplish anything!

Perhaps Budd Hopkins' family was the only family that panicked over the broadcast. I wouldn't be a bit surprised when you consider the alien abduction scenarios that Budd has come up with since then. Of course, the other unspoken question is: did Budd just make this up because it is another good...

Call me an elitist, but I prefer to listen to Don and his guest discuss issues rather than the people who call in. I think people don't call in because they have been threatened by The Men in Black Lace (a gender neutral subsidiary of the MIB corporation).

I agree with every word you wrote above, you lucky dog! :D What clenches my keester is abduction researchers doing what you said, taking something beyond our comprehension and turning it into an explanable linear dogma, and then insisting that this is the truth. One time I was in a group of...

I also agree that Paul Kimball is an EXCELLENT co-host. I like his voice, and I like what he says and how he says it. Gene, don't let him go! Sign him to a 20 year contract. I also agree that the show should be 4 hours long. :D

Ah, your statement brings back some fond memories of my early marriage, when I'd often get up from bed with scratch marks on my upper back from a night of "bonding" with my wife. :D I hasten to add that we still "bond" on occasion, but I make her wear mittens! :eek:

Archie, So the point of "helping" an abductee is to offer them a belief system to explain what happened to them? Gee, that is certainly helpful, especially if in involves terrifying belief in literal aliens that are creating hybrids that can threaten you and your researcher's life! A world...

Am I reading this right? Are you saying that one of your concerns is that hypnosis would NOT be approved if mainstream medical professionals were involved? And THIS bothers you!?!?!:eek: ---------- Post added at 05:14 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:08 PM ---------- I agree that MUFON...

Actually, Hogland could be very entertaining if his arrogant manner didn't get in the way. I don't know how Art Bell stayed quiet so many times when Hogland "corrected" Art on his scientific lack of knowledge of interdimensional physics and other jibberish. I wonder if Art kept a towel handy to...

God Bless you! By the way, like Jacobs I revised my post (did not change the meaning, but tried to make it more clear, and added my personal abuse story). Time for bed here in California.

Emma, I will state the obvious, since that is what I do best! :rolleyes: You are trying to convince people who have been unconsciously biased toward the current ufo & alien abduction paradigm since the 1980's, when Whitley Strieber and Budd Hopkins kicked it off with their books COMMUNION &...