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Ek. Dunno why I spelled it with an "a". heh. Trying to type too fast I guess. The point is, the supposition I put forward is the Christian belief of the nature of God. Infinite, omnipotent, omniscient , perfect, eternal and creator of all things from nothing. (many other religions believe the...

Actually what I was trying to get at was is this: 1. God (conciousness) created existance. 2. If this is so then the view that existance is primary is invalid. 3. It then follows that if the primacy of existance is valid then the view that conciousness (God ) is primary is invalid...

Sillier, maybe, but perhaps a little less harsh. I do agree with you for the most part.. At some point theisim always ends up begging the question or reducing to contradiction. As for the concept of "grace" being truely arbitrary, well that's a real complex and thorny issue and a major point...

When you put it that way and leave it at that, it sounds pretty bad. If you want to be completely honest intellectually though you have to add another statement: God gives man a way out of punishment without requiring him to be perfect by his own efforts. Kinda changes things a wee bit...

Wrong again. I direct you to pacemakers to regulate hearbeat, electrodes inserted directly into the brain to treat seizures not to mention the countless war veterans who carry shrapnel from wounds suffered in wars that occured decades before. All in soft tissue and not rejected by the body...

There is absolutely nothing strange about this at all. People all over the world have pins, screws, plates, artificial joints, artifical hips etc placed in their bodies by human surgeons every single day.

I'm going to get quite formal here and I hope you bear with me. Buried within your arguments and challenge to me is a tautology predicated by an if. An example of a tautology is: All black sheep are black. An example of a tautology predicated by an if: If all sheep were black then every...

You're right. I haven't seen a UFO. Put yourself in my position. I suspect that UFOs are a real phenomenon (at its core) that defy current explanations. My suspicions are based on a few compelling cases I have read about and discussed with others. However, I cannot prove it. All that's left...

No it's not. It brings up some good points that need to be considered and discussed. So does Angel. The body of evidence for the existance of UFOs is not as strong as many people believe. We need to accept that and critically re-examine our views constantly.

Actually you are wrong here Angel. You don't even need to offer up any conclusions. Merely reporting an object that breaks what are considered to be unbreakable physical laws is often more than enough to get you grounded and an appointment with the psyches if you are a civilian or military...

I agree Angel. I'm also of the opinion that many things we consider "paranormal" today may be explained by science in the future. There was a time when something as simple as fire was considered by humans to be mystical and beyond control or understanding. We just laugh at that notion now.

Well Angel you are correct. Astronomers don't appear to report UFOs very much. In addition to a much lower likelyhood of misidentification there could be a couple of other reasons for that. 1. A fear of being ridiculed. Jacques Vallee has recounted in his writings and on this very show an...

Well, since we don't know this is all speculation. There's nothing to say the source of the projection is human technology. It does offer up the suggestion that what we are experiencing may not be a local phenomena. Whether it is natural or from some sort of intelligence, well again, we don't...

You said: "Go ahead with your daydreams that Stanford doesn't have the evidence he has" Words have meaning. You accuse him of fantasy for not accepting the existance of something he has not seen. Perhaps I should have been more precise and said "the existance of evidence." However you go on...

Ha ha!;) I just finished playing with my cat. I was shining a flashlight on the floor getting a kick out of watching her chase the light around. Makes me wonder if someone might be doing something similar to us.

Again, how can you be sure he would come to the same conclusion you did? Why should he take your word for it?

Do you really understand what you are saying here? You are asking him to accept evidence he has not seen. You are asking him to believe hearsay. I do believe that you have seen what you claim. I have no reason to doubt it. But no scientist in the world ever accepts data unless it is...

It is a curious and frustrating thing about the scientific community, about how they are so unwilling to even look. They are, however, quite willing to offer any number of explanations. Now maybe if they looked they wouldn't find anything. I'd be good with that. A lot of the evidence I have...

Continue if you want. You can have the last word. I'm tired. My last remark on this issue is this. In the context of this discussion a "sacred cow" is a belief that cannot be altered even in the face of overwhelming evidence that the belief is false. Yes I do have beliefs. And yes I am willing...

Chris. You don't have to agree with my views on anything. You don't have to like me or the way I go about posting on the forums. I could be the greatest liar on the face of the earth. It does not matter. Just look at what I'm telling you. A statement: Sometimes our sacred cows are our...