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  1. Pygar2

    The Blob

    If only these silly, unworkable notions *had* been stamped out...
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    What Would a Paracast UFO/Paranormal Conference Look Like?

    What *would* it look like... I'm picturing a vast convention hall, and everyone in it looks just like "Exidor" from "Mork and Mindy"... "Don't push, there's plenty of room for all of us!". Of course, *you* may have direct experience of UFO/Paranormal individuals who in no way resemble him...
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    DUST HAZARD FOR MOON MISSIONS!!

    Photos show some dust did wind up on the foot-pads- but since the first things to touch the surface were the 66" long "feelers" underneath the pads, and the engine was to be shut off when they did, it is easy to understand how not a lot of dust could possibly still be between the affected area...
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    9/11 Experiments: The Great Thermate Debate

    Very true, SL and TMS. Of course, there has never been anything I would consider proof, of any deliberate explosions in any of the buildings. One person in a basement heard two loud noises some seconds apart, which I suspect were the sound of the plane impact reaching him through steel, and then...
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    9/11 Experiments: The Great Thermate Debate

    When did he say this, before or after he had evidence of it happening? If it was after, he would have been lying- about something no lie could cover up. So I have to think that the reason he said it was that, at the time, it was true. Unusual behavior for a Democrat drone, true...
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    9/11 Experiments: The Great Thermate Debate

    No such towers were ever impacted and burned in that fashion; no other highrise had ever had hundreds of tons of flaming Tower debris fall hundreds of feet to shred and ignite its (wonky) internal structure. Oh, and since the question has been asked... the real world *has* no Easter Bunny, of...
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    9/11 Experiments: The Great Thermate Debate

    Let's wait for "High Rise Demolition Engineers for 9/11 Truth". No point in just anyone who can sketch a 7/11 being consulted about 9/11... And by "normal", I meant, "not under the impression that everything wrong in the world is a Communist Nazi Zionist Bilderberger Trilateral Reptilian...
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    9/11 Experiments: The Great Thermate Debate

    We ARE the normal people!
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    9/11 Experiments: The Great Thermate Debate

    Also to be considered- ESB was designed and (over)built long before the age of computers- the best way to be safe was to overspec *everything*. IIRC they didn't even use I-beams, but solid ones instead. And the Towers didn't even have support pillars inside- everything simply hung...
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    9/11 Experiments: The Great Thermate Debate

    The idea is that the steel was designed to support an unmoving building. Once enough debris weight and steel softening occurred to allow one floor to drop, that one floor, with all the floors above it, became a *moving* juggernaut, which added a floor of mass with every floor it destroyed. *NO*...
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    9/11 Experiments: The Great Thermate Debate

    Again, we don't know what they used for ID to get on the plane, but it was still a good idea to have it on them. Suppose they found massive security in the area, had to assume they'd been ratted out, and needed to escape the country instead of getting on a purely local flight? Throw your...
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    9/11 Experiments: The Great Thermate Debate

    Passports aren't just for passing ports; they are routinely used as ID. Also, if something went wrong and they needed to flee the country instead, they'd have it with them.
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    9/11 Experiments: The Great Thermate Debate

    Yes, except for the Pentagon being WWII masonry construction, and specially hardened, instead of lightness-means-cheapness Tower construction... Passportwise- it's not as though the plane passed through intact; once the place and the building both had holes, paper and other objects could be...
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    9/11 Experiments: The Great Thermate Debate

    The passport was no more unlikely than any other given piece of paper... and I saw a pic that looked like a snowstorm of paper on the ground. Since this is real life, not a Roadrunner cartoon, we need not expect a nice surviving wall with an aircraft outline on it. Once the wings Transformered...
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    9/11 Experiments: The Great Thermate Debate

    Nobody would believe anything they said, anyway, so...???
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    9/11 Experiments: The Great Thermate Debate

    WTC7 came down because hundreds of tons of debris hit it from hundreds of feet above, setting off a near-global unfought fire, and destroying its wonky skeletal frame. After it collapsed, nothing held up the skin, and it fell. The Towers did not come down as if by controlled demolition- they...
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    9/11 Experiments: The Great Thermate Debate

    The plane, while moving forward and still in possession of its wings, still had lift. The plane went around the Pentagon, during which it lost altitude, and, IIRC, was then lined up so the pilot would have familiar landmarks. Planes are tough, btw- you *can* treat them a lot harsher than any...
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    9/11 Experiments: The Great Thermate Debate

    I've always wondered why people find it so surprising that the Pentagon jet did not touch the ground... since pilots are trained to keep this from happening until they want it to. Parts from the jets *were* all over; and parts from the people, too- but the skin, aluminum, was of course gone. The...
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    9/11 Experiments: The Great Thermate Debate

    The jet fuel probably *didn't* have a lot to do with the actual collapse, any more than the bratburgers on my grill were cooked by the lighting fluid... But with elevator shafts, air vents, and busted windows, there was plenty of air for them to start all the plastic etc. going. As far as the...
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    9/11 Experiments: The Great Thermate Debate

    I've read no lab analysis, for all I know the "steel" was gallons of lead solder or no telling what- if it was there. I've seen no pics from a source I trust. I remember reading about 3 days after it happened, that they'd dug down and gotten the gold out, before mentioning to anyone that is was...
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