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Let's think about this for a minute. I think we can leave off the "theory" from conspiracy when it comes to the US government anymore. The IRS can target anyone they want to harass. The NDAA suspends our habeus corpus rights with indefinite detention. The NSA now knows everything about our...

Maybe this was Kates real baby.....I mean the baby is related to Fergie....... Oh baby! Mother gives birth to 13-pound girl in Germany - CNN.com A 13 pound, 4 ounce baby....BORN NATURALLY.......DANG! The baby's going to be walking before the mom is!!!!!!:p

I see what you mean. At first glance, you'd think skeptics would leap at the chance to shoot down anything to do with ufology, but you're right. I would venture they also don't want any holes poked in their safety bubble universe. " 'Nice and tidy universe' is my name, and keeping the lid on...

Hiya Gene! In listening to this debate, it caused me to give serious thought as to why some people will not debate ....such as Michael Shermer, or Seth Shostak, or hell even Penn & Teller......with UFO researchers. Do they have something to lose? Love to hear your thoughts.

I checked "like"....but it's ironic I actually hate it. (the situation, not your statement Stoney)

Already way ahead of you mate, but I don't want events leading to the necessary use of them.

Please elaborate. I think I understand what you're saying Pixel, but I'd still prefer a little more info.

I understand where you are coming from Burnt. I have had a similar experience years ago which I won't go into right now, but the point I'm thinking is this: If mental expectations can create an actual physical object simply because you beleive it to be there, why is this not a more common...

STONEY!.....you made me wet my pants......and I'm at work dang it!

Look guys, I know this is a charged subject, and the media whipped the hell out of it to stir everyone up, and I do feel for those involved.....BUT, ..This entire dog and pony show was just an attempt to distract people from more serious events that impact everyone. ..i.e. Did you know Obama...

Stoney, you may like this video. I do not know how you feel about such things, but this vid has some new-agey stuff I'm not sure how I feel about, but the entire video, and I urge you to watch it all the way through, does make sense and has some critical information I think you'll want to know...

Have you been to the Real News website? Here's the link... The Real News Network - Independent News, Blogs and Editorials

Honestly, where do we go from here? Every form of communication is monitored. Every movement that starts gets infiltrated, kept from organizing, ridiculed, and made impotent. The mass media spins events in favor of the elite, and ignores or minimizes such things as the NSA spying on...

*sigh*........I am telling everyone I know that America as we knew it is gone, we are going to be frickin' cattle to the rich and elite, we are going to be slaves/serfs/drones....expendable at that. No one believes it. No one wants to hear it. Everyone just wants to stick their tiny little brain...

RAH is one of my favorite authors. Among my favs....Stranger In A Strange Land......Job: A Comdey of Justice...Number of the Beast.

Jimi, I am agnostic when it comes to UAP's. I have never pushed for the ET theory, nor any other really. I am just convinced there is SOMETHING up there worth investigating. So I wouldn't know what an ET craft looked like anyway

I guess he just happened to catch a jet flying by and creating a smoke ring at that time? "And even less "spectacular" is Heflin's fourth and less-shown photo. It is less-shown probably because it is simply a smoke ring, likely from an air show: Heflin's "UFO" Smoke Ring Photo Air Show...

Professor aside, if I had proof this website would be moot. Is it your proposition that undeniable proof must exist BEFORE investigating something?

I found this...... "The favored debunking theory in the mid-2000s was that it was a model railroad wheel suspended from a transparent fishing line. Unfortunately the flange of the wheel was not the correct angle or dimensions and nobody had shown any evidence of the actual presence of fishing...

This is the first I've heard of this Jeff. More info please.