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If people had been used for testing I'd concur but animals were deemed expendable. There should the some documentation available. And I don't think any witness with normal intelligence, even a kid, would fail to recognize a chimp (or think it was an alien).

Nevertheless the outward appearance of a chimp is markedly different from a human and easy to recognize. Shouldn't we expect similar documentation for use of a chimp in '45, had this occurred? Surely it wouldn't still be top secret after all these years. Or even if it were lost isn't there any...

:) I don't think he does. Like a host of other agents Grusch seeks to lose credibility, hence drag the gov't coverup/crashed saucer notion down with him.

😄 A "disc suspended from a balloon" was most definitely not what Brazel and others found at the ranch. IIRC it pertains to some other alleged case. I think there will be, albeit not for quite some time and only after radical, requisite changes. The Alien Grand Design gets into that at length...

😄 Essentially the same old tactic: appear to reveal the truth then effectively hide it by making patently false or outlandish claims, causing people to dismiss the whole idea of a coverup.

"100% not human"--exactly what the phenomenon has wanted us to think and gone to great lengths to ensure we do. That is, aliens are real and here.

Have you seen KDR's books, like Understanding Roswell ? For many years he has exhaustively investigated all the prosaic "explanations" and nothing works. The skeptics focused on MOGUL not that "disc suspended from a balloon." But even MOGUL has been disposed of.

Over the years there have been many reports of weird looking humanoids. And conspicuous objects descending before crashing or landing.

Na, I've long been fascinated by the idea of alien visitors hence "want to believe" but realize many reports are fabrications. Depends on how much integrity he has. For a long time I disliked the impact theory of dinosaur extinction but ultimately realized I had to accept it. The evidence for...

Shandera said he received it in December 1984. Disinfo put out by AFOSI. One work, The Alien Grand Design, has an interesting take on the purpose of the EBD, and similar, deliberately leaked fakes.

Great post by KDR. Grusch's story is just the latest in a long line of tales lacking corroboration. I believe the US has wreckage and bodies but we shouldn't believe every story we hear. The bulk of them are nonsense, probably intended to discredit the whole crash-rertrieval field.

Oh sure, he's a government pro, doing essentially what many others have done.

There have been a number of claims which seem to "borrow from Roswell" as KDR put it but don't have named or living, first hand witnesses.

Grusch a "whisteblower" lol. His claim of "retaliation" is phony and intended to strengthen his credibility. Elsewhere I read that retrievals have been going on for 80 years. I don't buy cape girardeau(sp?).

He was involved in the Maury Island hoax.

A "reported whistleblower"…not even named…..I believe claims of physical evidence are true but thus is no better than what we've been hearing for decades.

At least one contactee case predated the movie.

Of course Trinity isn't the only crash hoax, or even the only pre-Roswell hoax. There's also San Antonio, allegedly in August 1945, and cape Girardeau (sp?) allegedly in 1941.

The exoplanet with the magnetic field is too hot for life, but at least this proves a prerequisite for habitability exists elsewhere. Moons of rogue planets might be warm enough but it could be a precarious existence, if sufficient warmth requires a moon be near the Roche limit.

Examples: Democrats stole the 2020 election, climate change is a hoax….