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A classified picture from the Simonton case.

Hotkafka, About re-fraiming and referring to your list of possible approaches, I'd say that I am not likely to embrace solely any of the views in the list or any other "single focus" approaches as I see them exactly as you qualified them: "frameworks of interpretation". I have read and am...

Quote from the video at 1:10, this will go down in history as one of the greatest quote of ufology. I've heard many times that First-Contact would be like nothing we ever imagined... there you go !

On the other hand, we know that hoaxers and story tellers have a lot of unsubstantial materials to "leak".

Is solid food solid proof ? I thought I'd post the Joe Simonton case in its own thread because it's one of the most intriguing close encounter, investigated during project Blue Book (unexplained), with physical evidences (sic) and a comic twist. Definitely in my favourite top 10. Here's a...

Wikileak will also be a perfect avenue to lauch hoaxes... It won't help us much. Except give new materials for all kind of conspiracies, including the "Cosmic Watergate". What you do think ? Can it be useful to ufology ?

We DO know they like pancakes... Ask Joe Simonton... Skeptics want solid proof but we already have been given solid food ... Eagle River Close Encounter (man given 'pancakes' by UFO occupants) - Eagle River, Wisconsin, United States - April 18, 1961 - UFO Evidence

Totally in sync with adventureman here, from the standpoint of my experiences, whatever they mean. I wish you would do that here, that is why I joined, to share my and hear others experiences...

Thx, Sending you an email soon...

Mind-body control to an amazing degree... His position is perfectly balanced, his moves harmonious at every instant, as opposed to his opponent(s), in the ping-pong part. Give him a light-sabre and he'll stop laser-gun bolts! Martial arts philosophies conceptualise a "Force"-like "energy" or...

Can't say for China but yes in India charlatanism is an industry.

Oh no please, don't go, give me some more attention ! Please, please I'm craving for it ! :p:p:p

The point of the exercise is clearly stated in the OP as well : Which bit you do not understand ? Not much of an effort really, and no I don't expect everyone to vote. But giving me an idea of whether I am believed or not is what the poll is for, as stated in the OP and re-stated above. And yes...

Thanks Angel, I will watch it ... By UFO I mean ... UFO. Unidentified Flying Objects, or UAPs which I like more, I should have used that term. (As a moderator you can fix this, I'd be grateful if you could just replace UFOs by UAPs in the 3rd choice of the poll) I never implied anything about...

This is evident :shy: I am doing the same already ;) Right, this one will be hard to keep :p

I am merely joking, Lance got that I think, and I was showing that what we're saying about each other can be reversed because it's subjective judgement. Which is a rather un-antagonistic point of view... On the other hand, I don't think you're joking, and your antagonism toward me is starting...

Hard sciences, i.e. physics, astrophysics, assert that the universe is isotropic. This means that the laws of physics are the same everywhere and at all time (especially geometric properties). Also, the cosmological principle assumes that we do not occupy a special place, in terms of observed...

Lance bashing Phil for calling Angelo pompous is certainly telling. Phil has been nothing but patient and understanding and open. Lance's desire to get rid of anyone who doesn't agree with his fantasy beliefs (including a world where true skeptics are actually true believers) is a cautionary...

Thank you Angel, very interesting thread... The line I draw is : closed onto itself, axially symmetric and fractal. Since an image is worth a thousand words, here's one that also contains 26 words, for a total of 1026 words.;)