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Constance, If you are reading this, Vallee basically was very similar to Keel and others in that he proposed there was a mysterious phenomenon that was using fairies, ghosts, demons, gods, angels, and aliens in order to manipulate us throughout time. So this mysterious phenomenon was none of...

I agree that Jung contributed but it was Vallee who really set the stage on fire. It was a novel thing back then. It was more of a consequence thing. What Vallee was describing led to the creation of the psychological-social explanation because it was much simpler to believe in than what Vallee...

Okay, Valle's influence over Hynek and how he effected Ufology is talked about circa the 45 minute mark in the following documentary. It's short but it's explained that Vallee's work gave rise to the psycho-social hypothesis of UFOs, i.e "It's all in their head".

For those who still aren't familiar with memes, please read the below link: Meme - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia A meme acts like a virus, meaning it can insert itself into something and then be transmitted to other things, like an infection. Nothing is immune to memes, even Ufology has...

Again, I can neither debate nor argue with you, Chris. You are so emotionally invested in this that you resort to put downs.

I do not believe in demons and I wrote that Ufology is anti-science. I have to constantly deal with people like you who make up lies about me. I'm well used to it and it's not the first time it's happened in this thread.

Chris, I can neither debate nor argue with a fan boy. The man is a god in your eyes.

I'm not going to talk about germs with you. You are using a tactic that is similar to what Creationists use to try to make themselves be the intelligent side while making the Evolutionists out to be irrational. Germs have nothing to do with this topic and it's something that you have inserted...

Before Vallee arrived on the scene the ETH and "nuts and bolts" reigned supreme. Scientists were getting into the study of UFOs. Then Vallee appears on the scene and says, "Wait a minute..., the "nuts and bolts" is wrong. UFOs aren't real as we know reality to be". Vallee blew up and became...

Germ theory is rooted in science. Your take on UFOs is anti-science. If you claim that our science can't understand UFOs then you are against our science, i.e. anti-science. Since you are incapable of producing anything new to replace this science that you oppose then you can go nowhere with...

No, you've completely misunderstood me. Vallee believes in things similar to Keel, that there is a mysterious something that has been interacting with and manipulating humanity under the guises of gods, demons, angels, fairies, and now UfOs/Aliens. I've never stated that Vallee said its all in...

You stated we don't have the science to understand it. That is part of this anti-science Ufological mumbo jumbo/jargon that is used as an excuse. As I stated earlier, that excuse does not hold up to scrutiny. We do have the science to understand it. However, by it's very nature we are dealing...

Chris you're a fan boy. Your anger over this betrays that. As I stated before, you can believe Vallee. That's fine. It's just he has convinced you of things without presenting one piece of evidence. So your claim that Vallee has advanced this field and our understanding just doesn't hold up to...

None of that is new to me. However, the claim that is made by people who knew Hynek is that he changed his mind before he died and realized that if UFOs aren't nuts and bolts, aren't real as we understand reality, then it's not worth studying. As I stated before, we just don't have public...

This is one big strawman argument and the fact that Burnt State liked it is a huge shame. I did not say that German team debunked the slides. I said a German team had pulled the slides from the trailer. Vallee didn't just make people angry as you claim. He dealt Ufology a critical blow that...

Which is why I stated that Ufology is anti-science. Which is why I stated that people don't appreciate how hard it would be to gather proof and are impatient and since evidence doesn't just land in their laps they will jump to magical explanations. Anytime one promotes a magical explanation then...

I can't be sure but I tend to believe that Hynek probably did change his mind back before he died. Too bad he didn't make any public statements to this effect though.

Hynek made public statements that he no longer supported the ETH/ "nuts and bolts" and referenced the work of Vallee. However, those who claimed to have known Hynek claimed that Hynek changed his mind and rejected Vallee's ideas before his death. There have been several people who have talked...

The problem with Ufology is it's anti-science nature. Ironically, one of the proponents of this anti-science leaning is Vallee. This is extremely odd because he is after all a computer scientist. However, it's true no less. If the UFO phenomenon is not real in our understanding of real, i.e...

Hynek was not championing against the ETH/nuts and bolts like Vallee was. In fact, it was Hynek who was swayed by Vallee and not vice versa.