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We have been living in a plutocracy for a while now. The wealthy privileged own everything and run everything. Carlin said it best when he said, "We're not in the CLUB."

Hey Blowfish, I saw this too! I don't know about suing NASA, but I think those photos deserve a much more serious study of them. If you compare the two, there appears to be some impression on the ground in the first one that the supposed "rock" occupies in the second photo. It could very well...

Hmmm...it looks like a classic saucer. Nice closely taken series of pics. It looks worthy of study to me. Too bad it's anonymous. And they appear to be seven years old. Is that correct?

No I haven't. BUT, that is because we see things differently. (I think) you look at this from a nuts and bolts concrete problem to solve. Sort of like if a completely disassembled Ferrari was spread out in front of you. A bolt doesn't make a car. A cam shaft doesn't make a car. A muffler doesn't...

So, there are no photos or films that pass the acid tests above? None? There's not even one that makes you scratch your head? Do eyewitness accounts mean anything, even by seemingly sincere and honest people?

Lance, Manxman,.......if I may be intrusive,...........what do you guys think all of the photos, films, eyewitnesses accounts, and physical trace evidence are? Hoaxes? Stupid people? Mistaken natural phenomena? With all of the massive ..."stuff"...about UFO's, aliens, abductions, .....I mean...

Lance we've had this discussion before about what constitutes evidence. You keep everyone honest on here at least. But I have to disagree with your pre-pc photos and films(I don't know about millions) being useless.(To paraphrase you)Not all of them are fuzzy messes. Rex Heflins photos and the...

I'm really on the skeptical side on the Bosnian pyramid. I still have yet to see any definitive evidence of it being an artificial structure. I'm not saying Dr. O is wrong, but he needs some clear evidence the pyramid was man made. It's just not there.........I'm willing to say "yet".

Sucks to have a brain. Even awareness of the methods and techniques used is no guarantee you can avoid them. We'll all end up like this:

Hey this is the best thread I've read in a while! Excellent information. Calm rational discussion. No personal attacks or name calling. PLEASE keep it up guys!

Right there with you Stoney. I want to know who these people were, why they left so little litter behind to study, but most of all, why did they bury the entire site? I love a good mystery.

Charlie, Karl Marx was a product of the times he lived in. Sure he was biased, bigoted, and maybe even a bit assholish, but he was trying to find a way for the poor to be liberated from being crushed by the rich. Factory workers were basically slaves of the factory owners, and the owners didn't...

Very informative Eric, thanks. You put a lot of work into that, much appreciated.

It all depends on what your basic alien is looking for; "1" if you want fancy-shmancy high tech all your wants catered to. "5" if you want a post-industrialized, tribal warring, planet wide polluting, resource disparity with a few having most and most having few backwoods planet, ...with a...

&%$#-head refs threw the Panthers game yesterday. And yes I'm going to be a baby about it.:(:mad:

Panthers are my team, and I pull for whoever is playing against the Patriots.

Here's the headline......: Jennifer McCarthy Pulls Gun From Vagina After Dispute Over Space Aliens Jennifer McCarthy Pulls Gun From Vagina After Dispute Over Space Aliens: Cops Only on good old Terra Firma................................

Of course mind control isn't just possible, it's a certainty. I mean, how do all those asshole politicians that everyone hates keep getting re-elected? Through media mind control/manipulation.

Yes, you would do those things because you are not trying to hoax everyone.;) Exactly what I would do.

Ahhh.....scotchie scotch scotch..........the liquid meaning of life.:cool: