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There's no doubt in my mind Maury Island was initially a hoax, but what all went on with Arnold and everyone else was just incredibly strange and tragic.

Maury Island case . . . still very interesting mostly because of the Air Force investigators' plane crash. Phil Schneider . . . not the least bit interesting. Don't know why this blatant fraud is still pumped up as some kind of legit whistleblower.

Yup, we only know of one and have no idea of where we're at on the scale. Finding some form of life on a moon within our solar system or proof of past life on Mars would be awfully compelling. Even the number of stars in our galaxy is up for debate . . . . . estimates are pretty broad. I've seen...

Which makes the rate of new star formation meaningless.

Haha, it might be a great number but I don't see any relevance to where we're all at today.

R* = 10/year (10 stars formed per year, on the average over the life of the galaxy) fp = 0.5 (half of all stars formed will have planets) ne = 2 (stars with planets will have 2 planets capable of developing life) fl = 1 (100% of these planets will develop life) fi = 0.01 (1% of which will be...

I'd rather miss the point than act too hip for the room and say there is no point. ;)

Some solid points and questions without the insults and "nothing-to-see-here" arrogance/ignorance spread through the thread. Firstly, it's our tax dollars at work and just what is the benefit? Swaying internet opinion? That only raises more questions: How much can this opinion reasonably be...

I think you're missing an angle because you're asking me questions and not asking questions about the presentations.

I would absolutely, positively go to Greenwald's site and look at these slides and read his article. Oh man, you need to get over yourself. Have you actually read the article and looked through the slide show before deciding to go ahead and insult people who think the story is interesting?

Shocked this isn't getting more attention here. It's huge! Finally! Something legitimate from Edward Snowden that at least touches on UFOs. There has been a lot of crap masquerading as fact floating around up to this point, but this is solid. At a site run by Glenn Greenwald, Snowden's...

When I first got seriously interested in UFOs, I made a decision to stay away from the side show personalities involved in the field and don't regret that decision one bit. Still, there are too many interesting cases to ignore the subject and original reports and first person accounts are...

I think his material is junk, but a lot of people hate Romanek and one of them might have some skillz if you get my meaning. Innocent until proved . . . in court.

I understand your position Don, especially as a magazine editor where you not have to only be responsible for what you write but what you print from others. I would qualify your calling Imbrogno a prominent researcher. Quite honestly, there aren't any. I'm in this for me, my own edification and...

I'm not saying it wasn't a win Don, but I didn't get into this over personalities and what they might claim about themselves. I'm in this because I think there's something to this UFO stuff and frankly, that's all I care about. And besides all that, I like busting on Lance. ;)

Lance, the day you turn up as much compelling original material as Tony has will be the day that ET does land on the White House lawn. Catching Phil Imbrogno making false claims about his education ain't much to crow about. ;)

I agree with the bolded. The Kelly Johnson case is a really good one.

That's just it, you're making an assumption and Zamora never says the 2nd flame and roar was vehicle exhaust. He also said the vehicle had only two legs. How do you explain that? How do you explain the 1st flame? What was its' purpose? How do you explain the craft and crew's rapid...

;) Attached TO the balloon? No, I'm not suggesting that. There was no conclusion by the investigators. They categorized it as unexplained. Hynek outlined his problems with the hoax theory to Menzel, and I do think it betrays a little arrogance, "I'm smart so i can't be fooled," on his part...