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Contrails only form at very high altitudes (usually above 8 km) where the air is extremely cold (less than -40 degrees C). Other clouds can form at a range of altitudes, from very close to the ground, such as fog, to very high off the ground, such as cirrus clouds." Condensation from wing-tip...

are talking about the new lights that have been seen.

I think its good for up and coming new investigators to keep a open mind and gives you a insight of what some of the big names in UFOlogy has to say and where we have come, to a point.

you know i just picked up fastwalkers - they are here. done by safespace. i thought it was good. there did not stick to one theory, it was vary open minded.

can we tack down the poeple that shot it? what do we know about the video? what do we know about the people that was with the person that day?

what can we do now that that we did not do in 1997?

so has any one started to looked at the video to see if they are flares, this is kind of cool becasue i just pick up "the phoenix lights" by lynne d. kitei, M.D. i was going to study the phoenix light in depth.8) what dose this say for the lother light seen, that is if there not flares or...