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  1. Michael Allen

    Consciousness and the Paranormal — Part 12

    Sharing is essential...without sharing consciousness-experience ...well for some reason "I" think and "I" speak this to a plurality of "I"s....funny. [ the experience of laughter can only be shared...spoiler alert] Funny because even laughing must have this plurality of unmentionables (i.e...
  2. Michael Allen

    Consciousness and the Paranormal — Part 12

    Well but even then a statement such as "it seems safe to assume humans in general....[etc etc]" is based on something more than any singularity of consciousness...what I am trying to say is that there is no such singularity... Consciousness can only be "experienced" in a field of separated...
  3. Michael Allen

    Consciousness and the Paranormal — Part 12

    (1) "Intelligence is a form of data processing whereas [in contrast to? or because of?] consciousness is the experience of existing" But what if the form of data processing is a fundamental and unthinkable foundation of your "experience of existing" Thus the next question is superfluous...if...
  4. Michael Allen

    Consciousness and the Paranormal — Part 12

    Speaking english as one who has been coached by someone who speaks arabic....NEXT!!!!
  5. Michael Allen

    Consciousness and the Paranormal — Part 12

    Constance...I am thinking your's over :) For Randal I will do last is first... Interesting...you say "something intelligent" to exist...but in order to make a statement you have to be something like that to observe and report from the outside. The "existence" seems to be dependent on there...
  6. Michael Allen

    Consciousness and the Paranormal — Part 12

    (1) Consciousness understanding... My answer: consciousness comes about through a mechanism that allows "understanding"...so the limit of "self-understanding" is not a something that is a figment or element that brings about "consciousness." The notion of consciousness is itself a simulation...
  7. Michael Allen

    Consciousness and the Paranormal — Part 12

    ***WARNING...PURE TROLL HERE*** (1) Can consciousness understand the limits of its own self-grok-ness? (2) Have we reached either point (1) or it's negation?
  8. Michael Allen

    Consciousness and the Paranormal — Part 12

    Interesting that the term "comfortable" comes into play...I would say that it is precisely there where the plot "thickens."
  9. Michael Allen

    Consciousness and the Paranormal — Part 12

    The problem lies with the assumption that "intelligence can exist separately from any first hand experience of it [what do you mean by "it" in this sentence?]" "e.g. a computer can perform intelligent analysis, but may not have any experience of doing so" How do you know this? Interestingly...
  10. Michael Allen

    Consciousness and the Paranormal — Part 12

    Perhaps the capability is limited by self-analysis to the extent that the analysis of "self-analysis" fails for the same reason that "self-analysis" is already experienced.
  11. Michael Allen

    Consciousness and the Paranormal — Part 12

    Philosophy of mind troubles me only because it seems to be a solution in search for a problem. The attempt of a mind to determine the foundations of its own nature and ability to formulate a framework or theory that is accepted by the same is what I find comical. I am simply troubled by the...
  12. Michael Allen

    Consciousness and the Paranormal — Part 12

    I linked the paper and added my comments that showed how the clarity, energy and scope were in the wrong direction... (I rarely link what I agree with)
  13. Michael Allen

    Consciousness and the Paranormal — Part 12

    I can't respond..."philosophy of mind" this makes me laugh to the point where I can barely type any coherent answer. I cannot clarify anything which is already a part of the thing we dare to provide such a term as "philosophy" ... how can you type "philosophy of mind" without laughing yourself...
  14. Michael Allen

    Consciousness and the Paranormal — Part 12

    My comments are within your quote...[<me]...to be clear...read through the quoted material!
  15. Michael Allen

    Consciousness and the Paranormal — Part 12

    It just means that the connection is not encrypted...only have to worry if you are passing confidental information to them (which in this case you are not)
  16. Michael Allen

    Consciousness and the Paranormal — Part 12

    Hyletic data is the prey of the very being that searches the searching of the prey of consciousness... Survives? The only being that can bring about "reduction" is the very being under examination doing the reduction.... Immanent and yet not? The truism follows...."are not among the...
  17. Michael Allen

    Consciousness and the Paranormal — Part 12

    I completely understand...I deduce you were using Office 365? No? [sorry off-topic]
  18. Michael Allen

    Oddy's Thread

    Let's start fresh...and disassemble some of your words... God: what is this to you? What does this symbol mean? Angel: If god is as most others would accept...omniscient, omnipresent and omnipotent...why do you insist on this term? Why does "God" need to "send an angel" Mercy: What...
  19. Michael Allen

    Consciousness and the Paranormal — Part 12

    Microsoft Edge? You mean the successor of the famous Internet Exploder (TM)? Nice to know that you have switched :) ...now I am very curious as to what Edge allows that suddenly is filtered by Chrome's anti-bad-link-blocker.
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