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No evidence that laymen are (fully) aware of…As KDR notes in his latest book on Roswell, there is no known, credible explanation other than ET, in which case the government, which confiscated the evidence, knows plenty…Even the public has access to reports e.g. Socorro, in which the evidence for...

Of course, even if the objects were ET, they have to say that as it's the public position.

It's interesting that General VanHerck doesn't "rule out space aliens or anything." Actually I think they have a very good idea what they're shooting at, and it's all planned in advance to maintain a facade of government-alien hostility.

Look at Malmstrom and similar cases, and that's just one aspect of it.

In that case it probably wouldn't be habitable. In fact, actual communication and behavior of the phenomenon appears intended to emphasize a rift, even open hostility, between earthly governments and ETs.

Lol, must be a charlatan like Brandenburg or Hoagland. Mars is a paradise alright, for those who like -100 F or lower temps and deadly radiation. We'll get to Mars, in pursuit of more realistic objectives.

The energy source would be internal planetary heat. The sun is at best irrelevant. No Martian civilization was ever possible. Essentially present conditions have persisted since the end of the Noachian. Any civilization or race incapable of living on the surface would be very unlikely to...

Probably just rubble.

What do you think they are?

😄 I think he's full of it. I never doubted we're in for serious crises but the upshot, as in previous historical periods, will be the collapse of current government not civilization.

Lol, it's an extremely controversial work. If people would read the book maybe we could have a discussion thread on it.

For now much of what they're doing is just acclimation--slowly inuring the masses to their reality. But they and the gov't are promoting certain false ideas intended ultimately to attain the final political outcome. The aforementioned book opines that ETs have set the key policies for the...

It's quite unlike anything ever written on the subject; really cuts through the bull in so much of what we've heard.

Right, just the most recent of myriad examples. You should see the take in The Alien Grand Design on alien as well as government deception and its long-term purpose. I don't know when this "blue beam" is supposed to begin; if it's in just a few years I dismiss it. Ultimately, I think ETs will...

Oh sure. But it'll be a while before that stage is reached.

ET visitors were taken seriously (albeit secretly) from the start. How could the government not take them seriously, in view of overwhelming initial proof, in '47? Recent developments just show acclimation is making more progress.

Fascinating. Maybe Kaku was right that fusion will be in widespread use by 2050.

There were never "savior predictions" in the old testament. Christians kidded themselves into thinking certain passages referred to "a suffering messiah" when in fact they didn't.

Some were reported in South America back in the '50s.:)

Maybe but there always were fanatics and others who cling to certain beliefs (such as creationism) regardless of what rational science has established as true.