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  1. UBERDOINK

    May 31, 2009

    no one is talking about demons being aliens, especially when the bible for example has 5-6 different catagories of spiritual beings people confuse as simply demons. what the guest was talking about is more a entity called the Watchers, or Nephilim, this is completely different than demons and...
  2. UBERDOINK

    May 31, 2009

    FYI: Satan isn't a person, the best translation is like Accuser, think of it more as an Office like district attorney, the roll could be filled different people, i.e. Lucifer is an accuser, but conceivably their could be others, Azazel etc.
  3. UBERDOINK

    Attack on Christianity? and other concepts I have a problem with.

    again, your wrong, but as David pointed out, no need to keep this up. FYI the wikipedia ref you keep using was a digg at you, about where you get your info. But I guess like everything, you don't understand what you read. :D
  4. UBERDOINK

    May 31, 2009

    You are right David. and yes Bassett deserves a wedgie! :D
  5. UBERDOINK

    May 31, 2009

    again, i'm "Claiming" that there may be insight to be gained from a very old written history that deals with all kinds of supernatural things. To totally discount everything it says, and anyone that uses it as a theoretical foundation is intelectually dishonest. oh and do I really have to...
  6. UBERDOINK

    May 31, 2009

    Ok, I'm tired of wasting time on this. People are only ignorant when they refuse to accept truths. The fact is, the bible is 1700 years old, give or take, various parts are either older or newer, but NONE of these documents are two thousand years old. Ok, again, just a watching the...
  7. UBERDOINK

    May 31, 2009

    sooo... I guess you realize to prove your point you would have to study, and probably see that you are wrong. But who wants to learn about what they believe! boring! why don't we just watch american idol ;)
  8. UBERDOINK

    Attack on Christianity? and other concepts I have a problem with.

    again, where is your sources for this information? it can't be history books because NONE of them will agree with you? before the catholic church was ever established Christianity existed, growing in influence which is why Rome adopted it. Once Rome took over they tried to control it, thus you...
  9. UBERDOINK

    May 31, 2009

    Well in skimming his document (like you have with other writers refuting him, which can you tell me how many writers, the thousands of them, that refute your hero you have read?) one of his points is the changes here is an example, of one of his "variants" again, the devil (for you) is in the...
  10. UBERDOINK

    Attack on Christianity? and other concepts I have a problem with.

    I can tell this forum needs to understand the difference. Can you explain to me where in the text's you will find a call for Rome to establish a "church" to hold onto its power base? If you can then, yes I agree, the Catholic church, is the same thing. (NO INSULT TO Catholics as I do...
  11. UBERDOINK

    Attack on Christianity? and other concepts I have a problem with.

    FYI Wikipedia isn't understanding history I can see how you missunderstood this fact. ;) and again, you can't seem to separate Christianity from Catholicism, and again use broad statements that I can tell you haven't studied up on or understand.
  12. UBERDOINK

    May 31, 2009

    no historians say that, and can prove it by USING the documents to reconstruct that text's. Which again, PROVES that if as early as 180AD, till the modern bible we now hold, changes are NOT substantial, then please prove everyone just decided to stop changing things before then? where is the...
  13. UBERDOINK

    May 31, 2009

    I can prove we have an accurate copy of the Websters dictionary, I guess that means all my other points are invalid. Sorry if I don't follow? My point being, is that why isn't it reasonable to say that ancient texts, that have proven valid over eons, could ALSO give us valid incite onto UFO...
  14. UBERDOINK

    Attack on Christianity? and other concepts I have a problem with.

    Again, the Catholics did a lot of persecution I agree, Christian's did not. Also your comments on who could read the bible have nothing to do with Christianity and all to do with cultural norms at the time. Wow, you mean women couldn't vote! that means Christianity is bad? Explain...
  15. UBERDOINK

    May 31, 2009

    i meant for the bible as a whole, for your New Testament question they are 4000 manuscripts that we currently possess. Some good examples are: 1. Codex Vaticanus and Codex Siniaticus These are two excellent parchment copies of the entire New Testament which date from the 4th century...
  16. UBERDOINK

    Attack on Christianity? and other concepts I have a problem with.

    Again, without knowing your history you are plain our, catagorically wrong and totally without foundation. Through time, Christianity, not Catholicism which are two very different things has been persecuted, and the powers that be have tried over and over again to stamp it out. If...
  17. UBERDOINK

    May 31, 2009

    I love that one lone "scholar" that stands against the tides of evidence to "prove" his point. That is a load of crap. again, let me cite the dead sea scrolls for an authoritative example. They are 2 thousand years old or so, and were the biblical passage as written down and understood at...
  18. UBERDOINK

    Attack on Christianity? and other concepts I have a problem with.

    Well, if you take a non Dan Brown, pulp version of history account of the Catholics re-branding, you will see that the supplanting of ancient gods is more accurate. They didn't say take the practices surrounding Zeus and Zeus's story and they say, he we meant Jesus. If you really follow...
  19. UBERDOINK

    May 31, 2009

    Hey well because I didn't read your views I guess that means all those other views from scholars etc. are wrong. To set you straight can you tell me the sources which you site for the many changes over 1700 years in the texts? as far as I know, from what I read from scholars that study the...
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