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Religions Being Prepared for Disclosure Mirror Science Fiction Plots

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This came through my feed today. What stands out for me is the nebulous nature of this 'disclosure' - common feature of these things. Why not name the 'sitting congressman'? Plus the peculiar and distinct nature of the so-called 'disclosure' - which nearly point-by-point is a reflection of innumerable works of science fiction plots across 70+ years. I've long seen the 'spiritual ufo community' as a cluster of hucksters preying on the suggestibility or wishful thinking of people.

It also answers a major question that has bothered me: why does the government spend decades denying the existence of ufos and then suddenly starts to present as though it's all bona fide legit? Can the answer reveal itself by looking at what is currently afoot in the world? The breakdown of the British Imperial System (aka the City of London, or the Anglo-Dutch Banking System) - among other such - that relies on wars being fought means humanity/national states will no longer be able to be manipulated via that structure. How to replace that 'forever war'? How about good and bad aliens? With the added 'ooomph' of creating a new 'religious' superstructure?

Another Pastor has come forward saying he was briefed on how to prepare his congregation for UFO Disclosure:

"A handful of pastors were invited to come to a private meeting with a group of men who are connected with the intelligence world who are believers but still have very high security clearances that are still connected to Washington and even this current administration.

"We had a sitting Congressman called into that meeting for pastors and he said 'are the pastors listening to me? Go and tell the church they are not ready for what is coming. They are preparing to tell us they are from another dimension and they are our creator, and that these beings, that they are the ones that ‘seeded’ us here, that there’s no such thing as God, Jesus was invented by them, the Bible was invented by them.

"Prepare the people for what is coming because they’re not ready.”

- Bishop/Pastor Alan DiDio, Encounter Today / Revival Nation / Encounter Christ Church
 
A fascinating comment that (again) mirrors point-by-point Science Fiction plot lines across a century. I can name one speculative writer (not a science fiction writer) who seeded this kind of thinking into the general awareness - Erich Von Danikan's 'Chariots of the Gods' in 1968. Science Fiction writer Roger Zelazny's 'Lord of Light' was published in 1967 - which could have inspired Von Daniken. [See my next post on Zelazny's 'Lord of Light'.]

"Tom DeLonge (the singer) got into UAP stuff and connected with some government officials like John Podesta, and reportedly said that when he learned what might be behind this phenomenon, he could not sleep for three days. He described the reality behind it as deeply unsettling, something connected to what happens after we die, and suggested that there is essentially a benign side and a very dark one.

"And according to people who claim to have insider knowledge within the government, the truth behind the phenomenon is extremely difficult to process. The main points often discussed are the following:

1) The phenomenon is ancient and highly advanced technologically. The technology is described as real and tangible, and it appears to challenge known physics.

2)It is said to be extra dimensional, originating from another reality rather than from other solar systems.

3)There are reportedly multiple factions involved, in conflict with each other, but broadly divided into benevolent and malevolent forces.

4)These entities allegedly posed as gods in the past, with the Greek pantheon specifically mentioned in some briefings.
[See Zelazny]

5) Humans are referred to as containers, believed to mean containers of souls.

6)Terms such as soul, anima, and consciousness appear frequently in discussions of the topic.

7)The faction considered malevolent is said to view this planet as a kind of farm, and human beings as livestock. [Who - of a certain age - does not recall the Twilight Zone episode 'To Serve Man'?]

"The government allegedly refers to them as The Others.

It seems very different to hear a Christian priest explain this in simple terms, saying there is a battle between good and evil and that your soul is at stake, versus hearing something similar framed in technological language by the United States government, suggesting that there may be ancient beings with highly advanced technology who see humans as livestock and feed on their souls. [This last bit could be a plot point lifted from a couple of episodes of 'Star Trek: the Next Generation']

"That contrast could strongly influence how people react. Many people tend to take things more seriously when they believe there is physical evidence behind them, rather than purely spiritual or religious explanations."
 
It’s more distraction. I’d like to know which pastors/churches/denominations have been contacted about disclosure because I’d be willing to bet they primarily represent a particular “base.”

Just have to keep this one specific base distracted with nonsense so they don’t begin to question their shared delusion.
 
I am approaching this topic as how ideas are seeded into the general awareness through the imaginations of many authors. If 'Disclosure' actually does take this quasi-religious route I will argue it's a massive psyops intended to control the populace for 'forever wars'.

Look up Roger Zelazny's 1967 science fiction novel 'Lord of Light' on Amazon. From the amazon blurb:

“Funny, wise, and infused with a sense of wonder and knowledge. Nobody else made myths real and valuable in the way Roger Zelazny could."
- Neil Gaiman

"Lord of Light is a classic tale of the far future from the incomparable Roger Zelazny. Winner of the Hugo Award—one of six Zelazny received over the course of his legendary career, as well as three Nebula Awards and numerous other honors—Lord of Light stands with Joe Haldeman’s The Forever War and Frank Herbert’s Dune as one of the seminal novels that changed the way readers looked at science fiction. Experience it and you will understand why New York Times bestselling sf author Greg Bear says, 'Reading Zelazny is like dropping into a Mozart string quartet as played by Thelonius Monk'.”


Anyone who knows the history of science fiction in the 20th century will know there were several 'seminal' writers that pre-dated Haldeman and Hebert. Olaf Stapledon in the 1920s and 30s comes to mind - his 'Last and First Men' is a stunning feat of world-building pre-dating Haldeman's 'Instrumentality of Man' series, and 'Starmaker' was the inspiration for Robert Heinlein's 'Stranger in a Strange Land'.

Be sure to read the reviews of Zeleny's 'Lord of Light'. This is one review that gives an excellent synopsis - though maybe you should read the novel first (well worth it - it is a brilliant - and funny - novel) then read this and other worthy reviews.

BRIEF SYNOPSIS: After arriving on a far-flung planet and subduing its various native beings, a starship's human crew sets itself up as the new ruling class by assuming the identities and mystique of the Hindu Pantheon (Vishnu, Krishna, etc.). They are aided in this ongoing illusion by two supernatural abilities: 1- Each of the starship's passengers boasted a unique genetic mutation that allowed them to manipulate energy and/or others' thoughts--they honed these powers (called "Aspects" and "Attributes") to perfection, allowing them to cast disorienting illusions and/or devastate their enemies; and 2- The humans developed a technology to transplant peoples' consciousnesses (and their accompanying powers) into new bodies, effectively making reincarnation a reality--they use this ability to implement a Karma rewards system in which they advance those who toe the party line and to keep the masses in fear of reincarnation in a lesser state. After centuries under this system Sam, one of the "gods" who is known by many other names, becomes disillusioned with the gods' unwillingness to allow humanity to develop and sets up an "Accelerationist" movement bent on overthrowing "Heaven" and freeing the planet's peoples. Sam undermines the Gods' teachings by establishing the Buddhist faith while also collecting support among his colleagues in the Celestial City. Eventually, and after many close shaves and would-be executions, Sam pits his fearsome army of allies (including the God of Death, the Goddess of the Night, the God of the Underworld, and an accompanying hoard of zombies and fire demons who are among the planet's original inhabitants) against his enemies (most notably including the God and Goddess of Destruction, the God of Creation, and the God of Fire).

*Sci-Fi as Fantasy: One of the best parts of this book is that it's both fantastic sci-fi and excellent fantasy! For obvious reasons, the "Gods" want their scientific/genetic powers to awe the populace so they wrap them in enigmatic, magical terms that inspire worship and fear. This makes for a story in which characters wield death rays and ESP against each other but use religious terms for them like "the gaze of death" or "the Trident of Shiva." One of the coolest carry-overs are the Rikasha, denizens of the planet before the humans' arrival who exist as body-stealing fire demons. Sam trapped them centuries before the plot of the story, and his descent to the forbidden mountain prison of Hellwell to free them is one of the best fantasy-esque scenes I've read in a long time. I also have to say that the whole concept of "science as magic" and assuming a godly identity to curb resistance reminded me a lot of the Golds' enslavement of the Obsidians in the Red Rising trilogy--that's a plot element of those stories that I've always liked, and I bet I now know where Pierce Brown got it from!

*Superb Characters: Each main character is centuries old, coming to the table with intense mutant powers and a lifetime of loyalties and scores to settle; Zelazny does a fantastic job throwing their stories together, weaving and breaking their alliances a surprising number of times for such a short book! My personal favorite characters included Yama (the God of Death who invents the most impressive tech), Nirriti (the former Christian chaplin of the original starship and the God who marshalls an army of zombies), Taraka (the leader of the Rikasha who thirsts to prove himself the most powerful being on the planet), and Sam himself. Sam's wit, goodness, and "Machiavellian scheming" make the whole story work!

*The book delivers some AWESOME fight scenes. The "final" battle at Keenset (between Sam's forces and those of Heaven) stands up to most other literary large-scale conflicts, and the Rild/Yama duel is one of the best I've ever read (better, for example, than Inigo and the Man in Black or even Dumbledore vs. Voldemort)!

*My One Quibble: I didn't think that Zelazny's choice to make Chapter 1 the moment when Sam is "resurrected" prior to the final final battle (Chapter 7) played out the way he hoped. While I understand the artistic value of creating a first chapter that fits later in the actual chronological turn of events, this one came across as mostly confusing, and I only really decisively figured out the proper timeline in Chapter 4 or 5, which I felt was too late. I would have preferred for the whole thing to be chronological, though it was kind of fun to see Sam's allies from the first chapter fall into place in later chapters. Not a huge deal.

I'm all in on this book, and I'll recommend it to my friends who enjoy sci fi and/or fantasy, as this is a great example of both! It's a fully worthy Hugo winner.

2024 Re-Read: I recommended this to my Book Club, so I enjoyed a chance to return and re-read it! I loved it again. I particularly like the literary/scriptural language throughout; Zelazny put some real artistry into this book. I enjoyed the way he uses brief scenes based almost exclusively on dialogue to advance the plot, which are light on setting descriptions but still manage to convey emotions quite well, including scenes where you can read between the lines and see characters seducing or betraying one another. The prose is sparse but/and super effective. I also loved returning to the book to explore its premise. I love how the demons and the gods are what they claim to be in all ways except being supernatural, for example. It's the religious themes and prose, though, that make this book sing. "What man who has lived for more than a score of years desires justice? For my part I find mercy infinitely more attractive. Give me a forgiving deity any day." ... "With a certain horror he know that within himself, as within every man, there lies a demon capable of responding to his own kind." I love the interplay between Hinduism and Buddhism (including and especially when pretenders make true believers out of their followers) and the introduction of Christianity in the final chapter. I find the book beautifully-written and compelling from start (well, at least from Chapter 2) to finish. I'll re-read it again.
 
It’s more distraction. I’d like to know which pastors/churches/denominations have been contacted about disclosure because I’d be willing to bet they primarily represent a particular “base.”

Just have to keep this one specific base distracted with nonsense so they don’t begin to question their shared delusion.
If 'disclosure' does in fact present the enumerated points - they are points that will please all materialists/atheists.
 
Hey, All - my point was not religion, I'm not seeking an epistemological debate, just that it is being suggested (apparently) that pastors and religious folks are getting briefed (so says the claim) by a sitting congressman no less, on what the 'ufo disclosure' is going to consist of. I am a point-blank cynic but there are several issues with this -

- No verification from other sources that such 'briefings' are taking place, though it is suggested with the phrase 'another pastor has come forward' that this is happening now with a cluster of religious people. ????? First I've heard of it - and like I say, no verification - though as a bogus stand-alone it is a way of getting the ideas 'out'.

- We really don't know who is behind this, but it looks to me like a psyops.

What the content of the 'disclosures' will consist of (they claim) are bizarre imo -
- people are not ready for what is coming.
- they are preparing to tell us they are from another dimension
- they are our creator,
- and that these beings are the ones that ‘seeded’ us here,
- that there’s no such thing as God,
- Jesus was invented by them,
- the Bible was invented by them.

Too strange - and so what I was doing with creating this thread was suggesting these ideas come from a variety of possible sources already extant in the science fiction genre - and even with psychic/spiritual 'revelations' like the Urantia Book et al. These ideas are not 'new' and could be seen as being 'lifted' from esoteric cosmologies, in fact.

From the Tom DeLong quote in the 2nd post are claims that are direct 'plagiarisms' of storylines extant in science fiction -
- multiple factions involved, in conflict with each other, but broadly divided into benevolent and malevolent forces. [Innumerable examples of this plot line.]
- entities allegedly posed as gods in the past, with the Greek pantheon specifically mentioned in some briefings. [See Zelazny]
- they may be ancient beings with highly advanced technology who see humans as livestock and feed on their souls. [See Twilight Zone episode based on a short story 'To Serve Man']

I was wondering what others make of this? Any one else hear of such 'briefings'?
 
Hey, All - my point was not religion, I'm not seeking an epistemological debate, just that it is being suggested (apparently) that pastors and religious folks are getting briefed (so says the claim) by a sitting congressman no less, on what the 'ufo disclosure' is going to consist of. I am a point-blank cynic but there are several issues with this -

- No verification from other sources that such 'briefings' are taking place, though it is suggested with the phrase 'another pastor has come forward' that this is happening now with a cluster of religious people. ????? First I've heard of it - and like I say, no verification - though as a bogus stand-alone it is a way of getting the ideas 'out'.

- We really don't know who is behind this, but it looks to me like a psyops.

What the content of the 'disclosures' will consist of (they claim) are bizarre imo -
- people are not ready for what is coming.
- they are preparing to tell us they are from another dimension
- they are our creator,
- and that these beings are the ones that ‘seeded’ us here,
- that there’s no such thing as God,
- Jesus was invented by them,
- the Bible was invented by them.

Too strange - and so what I was doing with creating this thread was suggesting these ideas come from a variety of possible sources already extant in the science fiction genre - and even with psychic/spiritual 'revelations' like the Urantia Book et al. These ideas are not 'new' and could be seen as being 'lifted' from esoteric cosmologies, in fact.

From the Tom DeLong quote in the 2nd post are claims that are direct 'plagiarisms' of storylines extant in science fiction -
- multiple factions involved, in conflict with each other, but broadly divided into benevolent and malevolent forces. [Innumerable examples of this plot line.]
- entities allegedly posed as gods in the past, with the Greek pantheon specifically mentioned in some briefings. [See Zelazny]
- they may be ancient beings with highly advanced technology who see humans as livestock and feed on their souls. [See Twilight Zone episode based on a short story 'To Serve Man']

I was wondering what others make of this? Any one else hear of such 'briefings'?
I personally believe that none of the religions are complete and a lot of religious retract is more political than spiritual.
 
Glenn Beck speaking about it - with his usual humor. Disclosure ramping up in the next 60 to 90 days. Glenn thinks it will be a big nothing-burger.

"Out of all the headlines this year, this one may take the cake: Government insiders asked a group of pastors to meet at an Airbnb in Tennessee to get briefed on reptilian aliens.

"Apparently they're worried that Christians would question their faith if an alien said it was all made up. Honestly, I'd question the government and the alien way before I doubted my faith.

"But I don't think I'm buying it. You're telling me that the government KNOWS lizard people exist, but they're still focused on the next election?

Then again, it would make the existence of Gavin Newsom and Nancy Pelosi finally make sense."


Published May 6, 2026: [Video Run Time 9:46] Glenn Beck Channel

"Government officials reportedly gathered a group of pastors in Tennessee to brief them about reptilian aliens and how to prepare their congregations. But Glenn has questions... A LOT of questions, including: is this a psy-op to cover something else up?"

 
Another bit that came through my FB feed -

"Evangelist Richie L. Whidden has come forward with a stunning and carefully detailed claim. He says a large number of pastors were summoned to a private, undisclosed location [we now know it was in Tennessee] where US government officials delivered an unprecedented message. Prepare your congregations. UFO disclosure is imminent.

"According to Whidden, the briefing did not stop at generic announcements about non human intelligence. The pastors were allegedly told that official reports may include information about reptile like creatures. Not symbolism. Not ancient mythology. Actual biological entities.

"Why would government officials brief religious leaders before the general public? The answer may be strategic. Disclosure is not merely a scientific revelation. It carries profound spiritual implications that could shake the foundations of faith for millions.

"Whidden has not released names of the officials involved, citing ongoing confidentiality. But he stands by his account with unwavering conviction. If he is telling the truth, the government is quietly preparing the church for a truth stranger than any fiction."

I think I go with Glenn Beck's take on all this. :)

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