SRL+
Paranormal Adept
Perhaps like the Night Hag.
Night hag - Wikipedia
On a different note, another pet of mine is named Stephenville.
-
NEW! LOWEST RATES EVER -- SUPPORT THE SHOW AND ENJOY THE VERY BEST PREMIUM PARACAST EXPERIENCE! Welcome to The Paracast+, 11 years young! For a low subscription fee, you can download the ad-free version of The Paracast and the exclusive, member-only, After The Paracast bonus podcast, featuring color commentary, exclusive interviews, the continuation of interviews that began on the main episode of The Paracast. We also offer lifetime memberships! Flash! Take advantage of our lowest rates ever! Act now! It's easier than ever to susbcribe! You can sign up right here!
What is your pet case?
- Thread starter SRL+
- Start date
Free episodes:
Night hag - Wikipedia
On a different note, another pet of mine is named Stephenville.
Burnt State
Paranormal Adept
Probably the last great, genuine multi-witness UFO sighting we've had in the modern era. It prompted me to do some research and outside of these navy sightings, which are being processed through very select witnesses, there really hasn't been a lot of very significant sightings in the last 25 years - just a handful really, including the O'Hare airport incident.
And if you try to look for UFO sightings that include occupants you have to go all the way back to Varginha in 1996. The phenomena certainly shifts and changes over time.
SRL+
Paranormal Adept
In this case you have a pilot (Steve Allen) with a clear view in witnessing the unknown along with his buddies. He was so disturbed after the event he went home to be with his family in thinking the end was near. Additionally, he sought out his minister. Furthermore, radar reports verified Allen’s account of the direction of the unknown with the unknown at one point at a stand still and then accelerating practically instantaneously to Mach 2.02 or 1,500 mph. To top it all off, the woman who fired Joiner from the Empire Tribune later allegedly witnessed the unknown along with her daughter.
Ricky Sorrels (below) a welder by profession briefly shares his alleged experience. The experiencer claimed in not seeking the limelight and was reluctant to come forward. He alleges having interactions with whom he thinks were the ABCs in attempting to intimidate him with one leaving a bullet near his home one evening.
Last edited:
SRL+
Paranormal Adept
You can all go home now and “dust off your bibles” (Kid Rock), as the UFO mystery has been solved!
… and all of our musings were just for nothing.
JD Vance says he was 'obsessed' with UFOs, believes aliens are actually 'demons'
… and all of our musings were just for nothing.
JD Vance says he was 'obsessed' with UFOs, believes aliens are actually 'demons'
Burnt State
Paranormal Adept
I watched the doc you posted, and a few minutes in was reminded I had seen this one before, and watched it all over again. The vivid descriptions are absolutely outstanding. The witness response, as always, is intense. They describe an intelligently controlled technology way beyond our capacity, enormous and magical - truly.
(Anyways I'm going to make this into a pet peeve about ufology - does that qualify as a kind of pet case? I apologize if it looks long winded but I think it's important. As a pet case I bring up Portage County 1966 which is a critical one for me for a number of reasons.)
Each time I watch this doc I am taken by the Angela Joiner part of the story, and how the pursuit of the UFO can be very self destructive. She lost her job as the main reporter of this event. It is a destabilizing agent to be certain. We have seen examples of this across decades of ufology. It pushes people beyond their own capacities, can make them obsessed and/or paranoid, and even shunned from society. Why is it such a repeated theme in ufology, how profoundly it impacts some of the people most involved in it?! I'm also thinking here of contactees and how many of them moved further into fantasy.
People's careers, livelihoods etc. are ruined like poor Deputy Sheriff Dale Spaur, from Portage County 1966, and his later relationship with the UFO named Floyd. He lost his job, his wife, his home - everything. There are so many different law enforcement officers who dare to bear witness to the UFO and are treated miserably. The people of the town once burned a hanging effigy of a law enforcement officer outside his house after reporting a UFO.
Maybe we are not meant to study it or seek answers from it, but just admire it. Call it sky art and be amazed. Many witnesses report everything from apocalyptic fear to a stunned disbelief and great unease. Being near them seems to be always fairly life altering. Just like getting up close to Bigfoot.
This is a photo snapped of the UFO Dale Spaur chased across two states. It's not a nothing burger. It's a high impact event. Is the paranormal meant to be both awe inspiring and totally dangerous at the same time? I don't think it's indifferent. I think it's on purpose. UFOs are hands down the best air shows ever seen in a lifetime. It calls attention to itself. Sometimes It dresses like monsters and scares the hell out of people. Is that saying "Stay Away" in big letters?
(Anyways I'm going to make this into a pet peeve about ufology - does that qualify as a kind of pet case? I apologize if it looks long winded but I think it's important. As a pet case I bring up Portage County 1966 which is a critical one for me for a number of reasons.)
Each time I watch this doc I am taken by the Angela Joiner part of the story, and how the pursuit of the UFO can be very self destructive. She lost her job as the main reporter of this event. It is a destabilizing agent to be certain. We have seen examples of this across decades of ufology. It pushes people beyond their own capacities, can make them obsessed and/or paranoid, and even shunned from society. Why is it such a repeated theme in ufology, how profoundly it impacts some of the people most involved in it?! I'm also thinking here of contactees and how many of them moved further into fantasy.
People's careers, livelihoods etc. are ruined like poor Deputy Sheriff Dale Spaur, from Portage County 1966, and his later relationship with the UFO named Floyd. He lost his job, his wife, his home - everything. There are so many different law enforcement officers who dare to bear witness to the UFO and are treated miserably. The people of the town once burned a hanging effigy of a law enforcement officer outside his house after reporting a UFO.
Maybe we are not meant to study it or seek answers from it, but just admire it. Call it sky art and be amazed. Many witnesses report everything from apocalyptic fear to a stunned disbelief and great unease. Being near them seems to be always fairly life altering. Just like getting up close to Bigfoot.
This is a photo snapped of the UFO Dale Spaur chased across two states. It's not a nothing burger. It's a high impact event. Is the paranormal meant to be both awe inspiring and totally dangerous at the same time? I don't think it's indifferent. I think it's on purpose. UFOs are hands down the best air shows ever seen in a lifetime. It calls attention to itself. Sometimes It dresses like monsters and scares the hell out of people. Is that saying "Stay Away" in big letters?
SRL+
Paranormal Adept
Here, I found as almost irrefutable, and indelible
Speaking of the late Mr. and Mrs. Joiner there is an occurrence you’ve probably never heard of. And that case in known as the Oregon Bob case. In this case there was Vertical Horizons Studio here in Portland Oregon who went out (allegedly via Oregon Bob) and videoed orbs described with faces within, and at one point struck a cameraman to the ground disabling their batteries in the Oregon Coast Mountain range. It was a fantastical narrative. I decided to contact Frank Warren (great guy) in asking him what he knew. Up until this very moment I promised to keep our dialogue private. The only reason in sharing now is that the Joiners are long deceased. It was supposedly a juicy case where NIDS became involved. The Joiners purchased their own airfare to come to Portland. They weren’t tremendously well off, but Mrs. Joiner was chasing the Ufological dragon. Once arriving, they both were made to lie on a van floor where they would venture west toward the Oregon coast. Along the way Mrs. Joiner (for some reason) believed there was a black triangle above, possibly following them.
As it turns out, Oregon Bob was most likely mentally disturbed and the whole thing became a bust.
As far as Vertical Horizon Studios is concerned, they went belly up.
In response to your posting, I am in total agreement with you, as this stuff can mess one up.
Burnt State
Paranormal Adept
And yet people chase. Some give up their lives for the chase, make chasing into a religion, a lifestyle, a way of being.
Though, I can understand how the desire to meet and see the alien other, to witness the monster in the woods, to be the contactee - there's a lot of appeal to the world of magic.
Sometimes people have no choice..They get chosen by some incarnation of the trickster to have an experience, and that's that. Their life is screwed.
But then no one really gets to choose what may befall you in a lifetime. You can try to steer the ship, but sometimes the rocks are unavoidable, other times you can't help but street yourself towards the rocks. Me, I just like doodling around in a kayak these days, far away from people and any large, open and unpredictable waters. Chasing UFOs is a sucker's game.
SRL+
Paranormal Adept
Chasing down a rainbow, and then tackling a leprechaun for his pot of gold may provide as more worthwhile.
SRL+
Paranormal Adept
So far, the elephant in the “pet case” room may be the infamous ranch known as Skinwalker. Whereas, I have little doubt that Bradon Fugal is monetizing the place (along with the History Channel) possibly turning it into a KOA campground for his fancy folks, as this narrative goes on, and on, and on. Year after year, after year.
Burnt State
Paranormal Adept
I think the idea of a KOA paranormal family campground seems quite feasible as I can see a lot of singing of UFO songs around the campfire and making saucer styled s'mores.
Skinwalker was best rendered by O'Brien followed by the NIDS research and published documents which were fascinating reading. Vallee and Knapp still keep talking about the video that's looking at the surveillance equipment being paranormally sabotaged, but where the hell is that video? And whatever happened to that giant creature that crawled over onto our side through a portal? Is it working at a local Denny's?
Skinwalker has been reduced to what most of the paranormal and UFO understandings get distilled down to - a pile of really interesting stories that have nothing solid you can hold onto. If there is no mechanism for these stories to be explained alongside real evidence then all you really have is speculative fodder for crappy TV shows.
What followed Skinwalker was a series of interesting hotspots of paranormal/UFO activity i.e. Marley Woods with Ted Phillips, who is now dead, and there's nothing really to show for it all. There's never much to show is there? It's very disappointing and entirely unfulfilling.
Skinwalker was best rendered by O'Brien followed by the NIDS research and published documents which were fascinating reading. Vallee and Knapp still keep talking about the video that's looking at the surveillance equipment being paranormally sabotaged, but where the hell is that video? And whatever happened to that giant creature that crawled over onto our side through a portal? Is it working at a local Denny's?
Skinwalker has been reduced to what most of the paranormal and UFO understandings get distilled down to - a pile of really interesting stories that have nothing solid you can hold onto. If there is no mechanism for these stories to be explained alongside real evidence then all you really have is speculative fodder for crappy TV shows.
What followed Skinwalker was a series of interesting hotspots of paranormal/UFO activity i.e. Marley Woods with Ted Phillips, who is now dead, and there's nothing really to show for it all. There's never much to show is there? It's very disappointing and entirely unfulfilling.
SRL+
Paranormal Adept
… and the glampers could pull their RVs right up next to the bait pens where the family’s children and pets may frolic into the evening.
I believe there was a video clip showing a power light on the camera going off at the time the wiring was being ripped from the pole. Apparently, whatever creature it was alleged to have been was invisible to the other cameras.
Yes indeed, It was briefly employed at Denny’s then detained by ICE and then sent back though the portal.
Last edited:
SRL+
Paranormal Adept
FWIW, for anyone interested, here's three episodes of the Joiner Report and the saga of Oregon Bob. It's pretty amazing how so many were lead astray by those just wanting to make a buck.
www.mixcloud.com
www.mixcloud.com
TheOtherNoise - The Joiner Report - Oregon Bob Saga - Part 3 | Mixcloud
Mixcloud
Mixcloud
TheOtherNoise - The Joiner Report - Oregon Bob Saga - Part 3 | Mixcloud
Last edited:
Burnt State
Paranormal Adept
FWIW, for anyone interested, here's three episodes of the Joiner Report and the saga of Oregon Bob. It's pretty amazing how so many were lead astray by those just wanting to make a buck.
Mixcloud
Mixcloud
TheOtherNoise - The Joiner Report - Oregon Bob Saga - Part 3 | Mixcloud
This is really an interesting examination of what UFO belief and desire for proof will do to people. This whole paranormal thing and trying to figure it out is rarely a healthy passtime once you really start investing yourself in it. I really appreciate the heavy hitters who have invested large amounts of personal years in documenting and examining it: Fort, Vallee, and Clark have meant the most to me.. I know there are many other great writers in the field who also maintained a fairly clear head throughout their tenure.
But there have been many afflictions as well, and you see personal disruption in the general acrimony that has polluted the field. Vallee, I'm not too sure about though these days....Keel went dark later on in life. What else is an aging demonologist to do? Raymond Fowler claimed later to be an abductee after so much investigation into the field, as did Mike Clelland here on the Paracast (I felt sad for him listening to that), and, much moreso, Karla Turner, who I always felt was buzzing with a wildly mad energy, as were her books. George Hansen has documented the great degree of personal chaos that besets many who investigate this field. In some cases it can cost you your life.
Two Men Found Dead While Looking for Bigfoot
When I first heard about this event I identified with the guys going out on an adventure after partying over the holiday period. I have inspired snow show journeys through deep unknown woods with my dad's crew of guys as a late New Year's outing. We all survived because we knew well enough when to turn around and head back where there was food,, more booze, warmth and general safety. We weren't lured out looking for an unknown, and possibly mystical, hominid creature as an impossible goal. I think it's the impossible part of the paranormal that messes with our rationality. We are never going to figure it out. We should perhaps not take it all too seriously, or let it affect our real lives negatively in any way.
SRL+
Paranormal Adept
Really good posting and narrative Mr. State. Where do you find the time to offer this, or is it the Clint Eastwood in you?
Originally, I became interested in this stuff in approx. 1995 as a dare from an educated friend who listened to C2C. After some time and grief, I discovered Gene, Biedny, and Vallee.
Beyond what phenomena presents as, what fascinates is both cults and belief systems in relation to cultural context, both past and present. Essential, is a strong moral compass tethered to a critical lense in separating signal from noise in keeping grounded.
Make no mistake Mr. State, this particular forum backwater is best for most everyday folks to share their experiences, and opinions as not to be misconstrued while attending the international Jean Gebser consciousness symposium, whereas once a presenter invited me (all expenses paid) to attend in SF CA, however declined as feeling unworthy. That said, attendees may glean something from this incredibly steeped and diverse forum.
Irrespective of whether or not ET is involved, with the “woo” discounted, multi dimensionality of time may just be a worthwhile avenue of exploration.
Viewed currently, we are merely autumn leaves which have fallen from trees in attempting to grasp the branches leading to the trunk whose roots lie deep beneath the ground.
BTW, I’ve read the other impressions you’ve posted and agree.
Originally, I became interested in this stuff in approx. 1995 as a dare from an educated friend who listened to C2C. After some time and grief, I discovered Gene, Biedny, and Vallee.
Beyond what phenomena presents as, what fascinates is both cults and belief systems in relation to cultural context, both past and present. Essential, is a strong moral compass tethered to a critical lense in separating signal from noise in keeping grounded.
Make no mistake Mr. State, this particular forum backwater is best for most everyday folks to share their experiences, and opinions as not to be misconstrued while attending the international Jean Gebser consciousness symposium, whereas once a presenter invited me (all expenses paid) to attend in SF CA, however declined as feeling unworthy. That said, attendees may glean something from this incredibly steeped and diverse forum.
Irrespective of whether or not ET is involved, with the “woo” discounted, multi dimensionality of time may just be a worthwhile avenue of exploration.
Viewed currently, we are merely autumn leaves which have fallen from trees in attempting to grasp the branches leading to the trunk whose roots lie deep beneath the ground.
BTW, I’ve read the other impressions you’ve posted and agree.