Western Provinces of Canada Separate?

[Tyger]

Well, to my surprise I got a long-form interview in my feed about the Alberta situation.

Rich from 'Rich Does Politics' is one of my favorite political YouTube interviewers, especially about all things economic and political. He has close ties with Promethean Action and does some great roundtable discussions with - among many others - Susan Kokinda and Tom Luongo and 'the General' Holt about all things Trumpian afoot in the world. ;-)

A brief catch-up for context: the centuries old 'City of London' and the British Imperial System has metastasized into the Globalist system. That system exists via several institutions like the UN and NATO, etc., initiating constant war 'forever wars' and internal agitation 'color revolutions'. Trump is pulling out of the globalist system (necessary beliefs to be a globalist are climate change, net-zero, etc, in order to control economies) and has initiated us back into sovereign nation status with the American System of Political Economy - developed by Alexander Hamilton back during the setting up of the US, and had been our economic frame for 150 years until the scramble of WWI. Hence the distinction being made between the globalists and the sovereigntists. [See note below]. Explains why Carney is disliked as he is seen as a 'City of London' operative. I hope that is enough for context.

Anyway, I have a great deal of respect for Rich and I agree, it's so odd that the Alberta situation is so much on the down-low with the MSM.

VIDEO Published February 15, 2026: [Video Run Time 40:29] Rich Does Politics Channel
"Shaun Newman joins us to discuss the ultimate nightmare scenario for the Globalists in Ottawa: Alberta leaving Canada."

[NOTE: The "American System of Political Economy" emphasizes tariffs, a manufacturing base, and a producer culture. This approach aims to counter globalist influences and promote national industrial capacity, with every nation acting as a sovereign state.]

 

[Randall]

Big energy has divided our people and polluted our land — and the separatists have fallen hook, line, and sinker, for the propaganda. It's a total con to evade regulation and siphon wealth directly out of Alberta into mostly foreign bank accounts, leaving Albertans to clean-up their giant mess.

 

[Tyger]

Big energy has divided our people and polluted our land — and the separatists have fallen hook, line, and sinker, for the propaganda. It's a total con to evade regulation and siphon wealth directly out of Alberta into mostly foreign bank accounts, leaving Albertans to clean-up their giant mess.

It is so clear you did not listen to the video, or if you did you are unable to perceive a different perspective.

A very different world is arising, naught to do with foreign bank accounts. Pay attention. Listen. That's what we as the demos do.

 

[Randall]

It is so clear you did not listen to the video, or if you did you are unable to perceive a different perspective.

A very different world is arising, naught to do with foreign bank accounts. Pay attention. Listen. That's what we as the demos do.

My post wasn't a response specific to the video. It's a statement separate from it ( note that there is no quote in my comment ).

However — With respect to the video, I watched enough to tell that it's the same rhetoric I've heard over and over already from the APP, Take Back Alberta, and big energy lobbyists and pundits. Plus I ran it through the AI for a summary.

Nevertheless — if you'd like to address some specific issues that you think deserve more attention, I'm open to a closer examination of them. Take your pick — one at a time. What in your mind is the most important takeaway from that conversation?

 

[Tyger]

Content starts at 5:00 regarding Alberta Independence segueing into the Epstein Files. Warnings of massive disruptions ahead in Canada if this Alberta Independence initiative starts gaining real traction - which it appears it may do. Lots of very powerful echelons of international players do not want to see the Alberta money-pipeline go dark. This is the first I've heard that Alberta wealth is flowing out of the country, much further east than Ottawa.

Published February 16, 2026: [Video Run Time 1:27:42] Shaun Newman Podcast
"We discuss Alberta Independence and the Epstein Files.

"Tom Luongo is a former research chemist, amateur dairy goat farmer, libertarian, and economist whose work can be found on Zero Hedge and Newsmax Media. He hosts the Gold Goats ‘n Guns Podcast.

"Alex Krainer is a Croatian national, former hedge fund manager, author and contributing editor at Zero Hedge."

 

[Randall]

This is the first I've heard that Alberta wealth is flowing out of the country, much further east than Ottawa.

Tried to get the foreign investment angle across back here.
Like I keep saying, the separatists haven't thought it through — either that or they're in-on the con.

 

[Tyger]

Tried to get the foreign investment angle across back here.
Like I keep saying, the separatists haven't thought it through — either that or they're in-on the con.

Listen to the video and then give well-thought-out feedback. I'm looking for actual discussion, particularly regarding the prognostications.

 

[Tyger]

Very tired, am being reminded why internet conversations can be deadly unproductive. 'Sigh. Oh well.

 

[Randall]

Listen to the video and then give well-thought-out feedback. I'm looking for actual discussion, particularly regarding the prognostications.

Get some rest.
Then maybe be more specific with what it is that interests you — like include a timestamp and/or a quote.
BTW: The other issue you were concerned about has been taken care of.

 

[Burnt State]

I watched a lot of that video - waste of time. The discussion on Alberta confirms two things for me - speculating about separation is just pissing in the wind and the wealthy who drive money projects that destroy the landscape and don't care about its impact or clean up, as Randall pointed out, is just another facet of drill baby drill culture that denies realities concerning human impact on the planet that gives us life, how we degrade it daily through polluting it, and don't care about killing species and people for profit.

Here are some facts. This is from 2019:


This is from February 2026: Both are Angus Reid polls. There is no will to leave and the rest of us want them to stay...just as we wanted Quebec to stay because we are stronger together.


Bur, just a point about the conspiracy set and the right wing propaganda universe; because, this stuff drives me bonkers. Their ability to include and exclude information for the sake of benefiting their argument is ridiculous. It's like listening to white house propaganda where they say they're going to support freedom of speech and end cancel culture when Trump's favourite word to use after FCC controls is "CANCELLED". They thoroughly monitor late night talk shows and impose balanced reporting standards to them as with the news, but right ring radio is somehow entirely exempt. Go figure. So much for free some of speech.

Similarly the duscussion the Croation dude made about Canada's minister wanting to have the power to ignore certain federal laws was in fact to Fast Track corporate energy and mining projects the same way that America nukes environmental studies and laws in order to drill baby drill, not to take bribes.

And if you want to talk about the power of private government used to support the ultra wealthy then let's talk about Trump suing the very government he heads to get paid billions of dollars because he didn't like how the DOJ investigated him when he wasn't president and treated sensitive federal documents like they were toilet paper and notepads literally. He does this in the middle of an affordability crisis and cancelling health care payments for the poor?!

And then he has the gall to go after Mark Kelly with baseless accusations and calls for his execution while Bondi says it's the democrats who call for assassination. I don't see them using crosshairs to target political opponents. Or how about Bondi firing Joseph Tirrell, the Director of the Department of Justice’s Departmental Ethics Office, because he pointed out to Bondi that her office receiving gifts and freebies was in fact not ethical.

America gas gone all backward when it comes to using words like freedom, cancel culture, weaponization etc. And btw right wing radio is bogus. It is not based on fact. It's sole purpose is to dumb down the population while the wealthy ignore the rule of law to rake the average citizen over the coals. It is pure poison in the body politic.

"As if the Ministry of Truth in George Orwell's 1984 now existed, with its motto 'Ignorance is Strength,' this Court is now asked to determine whether the federal government has the power it claims — to dissemble and disassemble historical truths when it has some domain over historical facts," Rufe wrote. "It does not."

Ok I need to go walk the dogs and relax now ...

 

[Tyger]

I watched a lot of that video - waste of time.

Strange you should see it as a waste of time, because I found the prognostication regarding how fiercely the opposition would engage more than just interesting, more like scary. I've become fascinated by what is called 'color revolutions'. I guess I can assume that you do not think such a campaign will be mounted, nor do you have any resonance with the idea that Canada has been compromised by foreign interests (China). Nor do you think Alberta's money is flowing to foreign entities.

Flat-out: do you see China as having undue influence, even control, of Canada?

Note: I have no idea what's up with Canada in any comprehensive sense. I began taking note when Jordan Peterson came to public light when he was pushing back against mandated speech (the pronouns). I became aware of the tribunals academics had to submit to regarding 'correct thinking'. I've been aware that Canada had fallen for the 'woke' ideology to an extent - basically Marxism - but I didn't know to what degree. I've been following the worst of the MAID stuff and I find it appalling. In many ways I don't 'recognize' Canada from what I've been hearing but I don't know what's really going on 'on the ground'.

It's only been very recently that I've been hearing that Canada has been co-opted by China. And now with this Alberta stuff more and more my attention is drawn in that direction.

Regarding some of what you've brought up - when I do listen to the radio, I've been listening to shows that have both left and right pundits going at it about the news of the day. It's interesting to see how the news is approached from the two sides. I had to look up what you were talking about regarding Bondi and gifts - all I found was a soccer ball and some other trifling thing that the guy who got fired asserted was an ethics violation and why he was fired. There was nothing else on that. (I can tell you were listening to someone regarding the docs Trump had at Mar-a-Lago - the talking-point is very familiar - and if you were being honest you'd have done a compare-and-contrast with Biden's oopsie with state papers - far more egregious a lapse - and he was't president when he did it, had no right to those papers).

And as for Trump bringing a lawsuit - bravo! - I watched the 4 years of his interregnum where they went after him hammer-and-tong trying to financially destroy him with spurious lawsuits - now called lawfare because of its unique nature. They literally ignored the law, bent the law, in order to get him convicted of bogus 'felonies'. Watching all that unfold was horrifying because it was a perversion of our justice system. It was so clear the system was corrupted and there was no one putting a halt to the travesty unfolding. Trump wants to bring a lawsuit? More power to the guy. They have put him through hell.

BTW, it was indeed, yes indeed, the democrats who called for assassination - I was here in the states watching it all unfold - and then when all the lawfare didn't get him in jail, they tried to actually take him out - twice. Those attempts were not in a vacuum, there were some very questionable rhetoric coming from the dems. (BTW you are behind the times on the Jan 6th situation - massive evidence that the dems were playing dirty - naught to do with Trump). They have always been terrified of Trump - he was the one guy who couldn't be bought. He didn't get vetted through 'The City of London' as the euphemism goes. Mark Kelly along with others were playing games with the chain-of-command. You can disagree - but the fact that those folks would even attempt to subvert the chain-of-command tells you how much they fear him. Fact is, though, Trump is succeeding in dismantling the globalist agenda and reinstating the US (and all nations) as sovereign states, and with the US returning to the US Policy of Political Economy which we worked with since Hamilton for 150 years until WWI and the game got switched, the globalists are in panic mode. the gravy-train is over.

It must be clear, I am not a Marxist nor any iteration of such, like a socialist, or 'woke'. In years past I spent a good deal of time here on these very threads arguing for Climate Change - and took substantial abuse for my stance. It's only been in the last few years as I started to 'wake up' regarding Trump that I woke up, too, regarding the Climate Change stuff - I've done a 180' turn on that. It's a scam. And I should know, I was so deep down that rabbit hole.

I've gotten another text in my feed that is pretty intense - I've quoted it below.
Do you agree with the suppositions? Do you agree with this description of Canada?


"America’s greatest security threat is not Iran, it is Canada.

Canada’s borders are wide open. Violent, extremist third world criminals and terrorists have flooded into the country. An unprecedented crime wave has swept across the nation. All major national cities are now unrecognizable. No-go crime zones are expanding in Ontario and British Colombia.

Law abiding citizens have been disarmed and are now defenseless.

Canadian industries are going bankrupt. Unemployment is at record levels. Food banks cannot meet demand. Medical services, hospitals, housing, schools, social security and public services are collapsing under the impossible demands placed upon them by unrestricted immigration policies.

The Liberal government is launching a series of censorship and hate speech laws that will be weaponized against traditional Christian Canadians, targeted for political prosecutions and used as an instrument for extreme control and criminal punishments against citizens. The system will rival North Korea in severity.

The MAID (Medical Assistance in Dying) euthanasia eugenics program is now indiscriminately killing Canadians and harvesting their organs for profit.

Young Canadians, aware of the treasonous activities of their criminal government, are unwilling to join the military. They refuse to fight for a nation that has stolen their future.

As a result, the Chinese Communist infiltrated Liberal government has just announced a new Express Entry pathway for “skilled military recruits”, explicitly opening the Canadian Armed Forces to foreign national infiltration.

The U.S. and Canada share the world’s longest undefended border, integrated defense infrastructure, NORAD and deep intelligence cooperation.

Any dilution of loyalty, vetting rigor, or command integrity within the Canadian military directly affects America’s security.

This new mercenary army will be used against the Canadian people and American interests.

America, act now. With extreme urgency."

 

[Randall]

Strange you should see it as a waste of time, because I found the prognostication regarding how fiercely the opposition would engage more than just interesting, more like scary. I've become fascinated by what is called 'color revolutions' . . .

Good rant. Good points. A few worth diving deeper into. I leave that choice up to you.
Hope you noticed I found a workaround to get you out of our DC on The Forbidden Topic.
I just started a new discussion without adding anyone else to it, and then copied the existing posts ( without yours ).
So I didn't need to invite anyone else. Glad we didn't get too far into it.

 

[Tyger]

Just got my answer on at least one of those points - and I could see this driving Albertans into the arms of the US or at least Independence.

BREAKING - "Canada is launching a new ‘Immigration Category’ for the Armed Forces to allow ‘Recruits’ from the Chinese Communist Party and other foreign adversaries to merge with Canadian Armed Forces, doctors, nurses, and pilots.

"Minister Lena Diab says it will help "defend our sovereignty" and "keep Canadians safe."

"Is it me or did she just claim that this is in defense of Canada's sovereignty by merging on Military levels with a known authoritarian communist Country?

"Correct me, if I am in error: But that's the opposite of sovereignty, isn't it? This feels more like a treasonous act, does it not?"

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[Randall]

Just got my answer on at least one of those points - and I could see this driving Albertans into the arms of the US or at least Independence.

BREAKING - "Canada is launching a new ‘Immigration Category’ for the Armed Forces to allow ‘Recruits’ from the Chinese Communist Party and other foreign adversaries to merge with Canadian Armed Forces, doctors, nurses, and pilots.

"Minister Lena Diab says it will help "defend our sovereignty" and "keep Canadians safe."

"Is it me or did she just claim that this is in defense of Canada's sovereignty by merging on Military levels with a known authoritarian communist Country?

"Correct me, if I am in error: But that's the opposite of sovereignty, isn't it? This feels more like a treasonous act, does it not?"

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Hmm — risky, but if they prove themselves, it could work to our advantage.

Government plans to boost Canadian Forces with foreign recruits

unpublished.ca

 

[Tyger]

Hmm — risky, but if they prove themselves, it could work to our advantage.

You do not understand China - no such thing as a defector. Every Chinese person no matter where they are in the world is under the control of the CCP.

But this observation answered one of my other questions -
how much does a normal Canadian understand that they have been sold out, especially with Carney.

 

[Randall]

You do not understand China - no such thing as a defector.

I'm skeptical about that.

• Yu Qiangsheng (1985): A high-ranking officer in China’s Ministry of State Security (MSS) who headed its North American division. He defected to the U.S. in 1985 and is famous for revealing Larry Wu-Tai Chin, a long-term mole for China inside the CIA.

Top China defector passes state secrets to US

The brother of a disgraced Communist official is believed to be the most valuable Chinese defector to the US, the Financial Times reports.

www.cnbc.com

Every Chinese person no matter where they are in the world is under the control of the CCP.

What about when the person is an ex-Chinese national? Are they still under control of the CCP just for being asian?

But this observation answered one of my other questions - how much does a normal Canadian understand that they have been sold out, especially with Carney.

I guess that depends on how you define a "normal Canadian" — is there even such a thing?

 

[Burnt State]

You do not understand China - no such thing as a defector. Every Chinese person no matter where they are in the world is under the control of the CCP.

But this observation answered one of my other questions -
how much does a normal Canadian understand that they have been sold out, especially with Carney.

Speaking as an average Canadian I know there is no plan at work to sell us out to China. If you remember, at the behest of the American govt we detained the CFO from Huawei and suffered greatly because of it, including having our own citizens in China arrested on trumped up charges and lost billions of dollars in trade. We have banned them from our 5g network and wish, like the American govt desperately wishes, they they will buy our wheat, beef and soy products again one day. The little drop in the bucket electric car deal is pretty minor.

Like all countries in the world we are looking to improve expertise and fill employment areas that we don't have enough people for, just like America's immigration program. There's no specific language that says we want Chinese military in our military. We are looking for qualified experts in various fields.

I believe that through the H-1B visa program in America Chinese workers make up a substantial portion of who you are bringing in. Are you worried about that? Because the numbers you are bringing in outstrips those from India.

You are also trading with China around 500 billion a year and it seems to me like your hockey teams are still ok and China hasn't taken them away from you yet.

P.S. I could not begin to respond to all the nonsense up there in bold about Canada going straight to hell. It was too ridiculous. We are a much beloved country globally because: we treat all people equally and celebrate our multicultural heritage, we stand by our allies, we die for our allies, we treat our allies fairly, and we respect our allies unlike your current leader who has no clue on how to respect other nations that died alongside your soldiers in your wars.

Getting your news from Facebook is not really a good practice. I would look at the actual govt documents to get real information.

 

[Tyger]

What about when the person is an ex-Chinese national? Are they still under control of the CCP just for being asian?

I guess that depends on how you define a "normal Canadian" — is there even such a thing?

I watch about 3-4 Chinese shows, commentators, to keep up on all things Chinese. One show went into the phenomenon of the Chinese police stations being set up in foreign countries for the purpose of monitoring Chinese citizens abroad. Apparently they threaten adverse actions against someone's family back in China to keep visiting Chinese in a foreign country 'in line'. I can only go by what I have learned in this way - it appears to be an open secret. There were clashes outside a Chinese embassy in London some years back, with protesters regarding Hong Kong, and in video some of the protestors are shown being 'captured' by embassy staff and dragged into the embassy. Stuff like that. I do recall there being particular sensitivity about any mention of Taiwan. Basically, China is tough, and they control their citizens even abroad, using various threats and means.

But hey - if you think the Chinese are chill and you have no issue with them, thank you for letting me know. That's what I'm asking. I'm looking to see if there are other viewpoints and it seems there are. Numerous political commentators view Canada as 'infiltrated' by China. This is what I hear not what I believe. Just trying to suss out what's really happening up your way. Just as there can be and is a lot of untrue things said about situations down here in the US, the same can be happening with Canada. So thanks for the other perspective.

Maybe I picked out the wrong word - I meant, you know, the normal run-of-the-mill 'average Joe' Canadian.

 

[Tyger]

Speaking as an average Canadian I know there is no plan at work to sell us out to China. If you remember, at the behest of the American govt we detained the CFO from Huawei and suffered greatly because of it, including having our own citizens in China arrested on trumped up charges and lost billions of dollars in trade. We have banned them from our 5g network and wish, like the American govt desperately wishes, they they will buy our wheat, beef and soy products again one day. The little drop in the bucket electric car deal is pretty minor.

Like all countries in the world we are looking to improve expertise and fill employment areas that we don't have enough people for, just like America's immigration program. There's no specific language that says we want Chinese military in our military. We are looking for qualified experts in various fields.

I believe that through the H-1B visa program in America Chinese workers make up a substantial portion of who you are bringing in. Are you worried about that? Because the numbers you are bringing in outstrips those from India.

P.S. I could not begin to respond to all the nonsense up there in bold about Canada going straight to hell. It was too ridiculous. We are a much beloved country globally because: we treat all people equally and celebrate our multicultural heritage, we stand by our allies, we die for our allies, we treat our allies fairly, and we respect our allies unlike your current leader who has no clue on how to respect other nations that died alongside your soldiers in your wars.

Getting your news from Facebook is not really a good practice. I would look at the actual govt documents to get real information.

Sorry, I still haven't figured out how to clip the quote into sections, even though both you and Randall did explain it to me. Oh well. This will have to do. I'll bold what I'm responding to.

Thank you for saying about no sell-out to China as far as you know at this time. I keep hearing it's already happened via Carney, and I've also heard that generally the Canadian citizens are clueless about what is occurring. (I do recall the Huawei situation - not that long ago but apparently things have changed since then - so I hear.) Thank you for setting things straight - though I do wonder why the rumor is afoot. Carney? Is he the sell-out?

You are correct about there being no language to that effect - I went back to listen to the government source I linked to. I had been biased to think in that way because of the quote I shared that stated as a fact that Chinese would be joining up, when of course nothing of that sort can be definitively known at this point. 'Twill see.

Actually the Chinese workers in the US on the H-1B visa were at 11.5% in 2024 - fluctuating from 9% to 12% across the last few years. It's India that dominates at 71% to 75% across the last few years. I had to look that up. I do know that there have been issues of espionage with Chinese scientists and academics reported in the last few years so there is a sense of caution, I assume, hence the low percentage.

The quote was pretty intense, I agree, hence why I was searching for feedback. You've given me (some) feedback, so thank you.

I for sure have gotten the message that you don't like Trump. He's a tough cookie from New York City who learned to deal with crime bosses and all manner of folk - he's not genteel though I understand its a facade and he is quite another sort face-to-face. However, the main issue with Trump is he is getting the US out of the globalist agenda (aka British Imperial System. 'City of London') and back to sovereignty. No more forever wars, no more bankrolling the world's social programs at our country's expense. He is getting us back to the American system of Political Economy, set in place by Alexander Hamilton and the system we flourished under for 150 years until WWI when it all got switched up and the US got drawn into European wars and institutions. Those days are now ending.

Not sure what you mean in referencing Facebook - I arrange to have all my newsfeed come through my social media accounts - I don't know of any other way to do it. What do you use to consolidate all your news sources?

 

[Randall]

I watch about 3-4 Chinese shows, commentators, to keep up on all things Chinese. One show went into the phenomenon of the Chinese police stations being set up in foreign countries for the purpose of monitoring Chinese citizens abroad. Apparently they threaten adverse actions against someone's family back in China to keep visiting Chinese in a foreign country 'in line'. I can only go by what I have learned in this way - it appears to be an open secret. There were clashes outside a Chinese embassy in London some years back, with protesters regarding Hong Kong, and in video some of the protestors are shown being 'captured' by embassy staff and dragged into the embassy. Stuff like that. I do recall there being particular sensitivity about any mention of Taiwan. Basically, China is tough, and they control their citizens even abroad, using various threats and means.

But hey - if you think the Chinese are chill and you have no issue with them, thank you for letting me know. That's what I'm asking. I'm looking to see if there are other viewpoints and it seems there are. Numerous political commentators view Canada as 'infiltrated' by China. This is what I hear not what I believe. Just trying to suss out what's really happening up your way. Just as there can be and is a lot of untrue things said about situations down here in the US, the same can be happening with Canada. So thanks for the other perspective.

Maybe I picked out the wrong word - I meant, you know, the normal run-of-the-mill 'average Joe' Canadian.

Some legitimate concerns there that I know are true. I'm just saying that we need to be careful not to paint all Asians with the same brush because their governments don't align with ours. Personally, I judge my friendships one person at a time — as individuals — regardless of their race.

NOTE: To do single posts responding to different comments, it helps to be on a desktop system, because it's easier to cut and paste that way — and if necessary, to select the "Toggle BB code" formatting option in the menu, copy or cut the relevant sections, and paste them where you want. A little practice is all it takes. However if you're using a mobile device — while it would still be possible, I wouldn't bother.

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