Jeff Davis
Paranormal Adept
If you think, "Disclosure has already happened. Completely and totally." then you're belief is based on far more faith than any which you claim I have, because for us to know full disclosure has happened, we would all need unfettered access to the most high-tech secure areas and uncensored records that exist. But we don't have that, and you certainly don't have that, and therefore you're simply making a faith based assumption.
On the other hand, we know from FOIA requests that many documents have been withheld from investigators and that many that have been released contain blacked out segments ( Example story here ). It is also self-evident that we don't have unfettered access to military tracking stations. I don't need to prove to you that you can't simply walk into the control room of any Space Command tracking station or NSA records vault. But if you need proof, tell you what, you go try it yourself. Don't forget to send us postcard from wherever the new Guantanamo Bay detention center is. So on the point of disclosure, you're just plain wrong.
On the issue of alien visitation itself. My belief is based on study of the subject and firsthand experience. Simply because I can't prove my experience was real to you doesn't make my belief faith based. If someone else believed me without question, then that would constitute a faith based belief. However there are also degrees of reasonableness that justify belief in others. Given the number of sightings of alien craft, it's simply not reasonable to believe all witnesses are misinformed, mistaken, or lying, especially after having seen one for myself. I'd have to be a totally self-centered egomaniac to think that of all the people on Earth, only my sighting is the real one. So if your allusion to my faith has anything to do with the belief in alien visitation, you're wrong about that too.
The only claim you can make that my belief in alien visitation is faith based is purely philosophical on the grounds that, because none of truly know what the ultimate nature of reality is, anything we perceive to be real may or may not be what we assume it to be. But that's not relevant to this discussion. Alien visitation is as real as anything else we are able to perceive and simply because you haven't perceived it enough for you to believe it's true doesn't mean you're assumptions about the rest of us are correct.
Ufology,
I definitely have and utilize my faith on a daily basis. We all do despite what the most ardent atheist may proclaim. As stated, the virtue of faith is not the issue, however misdirected faith can be dangerous. That's the point here. You see, the disclosure of the fact that high ranking officials in a position to know beyond question that the UFO phenomena is REAL, is certain. This *has* happened. No question. What you state as a qualifier for disclosure has nothing whatsoever to do with the reality that the UFO phenomena has been affirmed by tremendous and absolute authority. Both scientific and nation specific ruling authority. If you are waiting for "unfettered access" to a country's top secret information, whose entire might is based upon their military/industrial strength, it is simply NEVER going to happen. Get real, or better and more so humbly put, at very minimum, realistic. What power could they ever hope to maintain within the scope of rule that is ultimately based upon secrecy? That's almost the equivalent to stating that there is a conspiracy against me winning the lottery, despite the fact that I choose not to play.
The bottom line is that the best any one country has on the UFO Phenomena is uniform across the board. All of humanity has NOT, apart from superstitions and mythological lore. When you have global systems that are based on a hierarchy of military/industrial capability, the last thing they are going to be willing to do is admit that they are powerless over a possible threat that they themselves cannot even define. "Secret wars." "Alien agreements with the government." This is the type of nonsense that rules the comic book club. It's also the type of nonsense that that our precious power mongering military/industrial government uses via disinformation intelligence strategies to leverage themselves to a vantage point of imaginary power. This is precisely the game that MR. B was caught up into. The one that he allowed them to rob him of his sanity as a result of his own misdirected faith. It's a sick game Ufology, and if you are waiting for those types of governments to concede, you'll be waiting a lot longer than a kid hoping to achieve a peak at Santa Claus and his Reindeer on Christmas Eve. At least those of us waiting on Santa have the local dept. store to fall back on.
I think with respect for disclosure, what yourself, and those others that have chosen the preconceived notion of ET as being that which equals the UFO Phenomena are waiting for, is the ET version of disclosure. Some of us do not have a problem simply admitting, along with some of the best scientific minds on the planet that have been studying the phenomena ardently according to rigid scientific principle for better than 30 years now, that the UFO Phenomena is absolutely real, however we do not know what they are, nor do we understand what the Phenomena represents definitively. This being apart from the scope of the reflectively reasoned phenomena and the subsequent context bound myths that the esthetic has inspired and achieved thus far in this era of mankind.
Unless you can produce direct evidence of alien visitation, you are merely participating in the religion of Ufology as forwarded by misdirected faith en masse. The skeptic in me asks with a certain conviction of an all too familiar past rigor: Would you please pass that offering plate the other way?
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