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Synchronicity, Breakaway Civilizations — Ask Walter Bosley!

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He's back — or will be after we record the episode on Thursday, December 10 at 10 AM Pacific time.

Walter Bosley is an author, a former AFOSI agent and a former FBI counterintelligence specialist. The agenda includes amazing evidence of synchronicity, such as recent mass shootings around the world. Walter says, "Essentially these synchs relate to my Empire of the Wheel research and startled me, to be honest."

He'll also talk about breakaway civilizations, focusing on his upcoming book, "Origin: The Nineteenth Century Emergence of the 20th Century Breakaway Civilizations" and possibly ancient aliens.
 
  1. Can you provide some examples of the workings of the two breakaway civilizations today?
  2. Are there any well known people that you can identify as belonging to these breakaway civilizations?
 
shadowgov said:
I am currently reading Empire of the Wheel Book 1... I was wondering were Walter draws the line between coincidence and synchronicity?
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It's been my experience in past discussions here with Bosley, that he grabs hold of a thread, unravels it part way, and leaves the rest up those who read his books. I'd prefer something that goes a bit beyond that. A bit more extrapolation using critical thinking. Your question would require that. But I guess that's just not everyone's style of writing.

Personally, I don't believe in breakaway civilizations. Private corporations and secret military projects and the like are part of our civilization, and if they had the kind of tech UFOs demonstrate, the mainstream military would have commandeered it by now. There are no secret Nazi bases in Antarctica with that kind of tech either or the same thing would have happened, and by now it would be all over the news. Have there been strange airship sightings? Sure, why not? Nobody needs to convince me about alien craft. But after that, we don't really have much other than theories and speculation.
 
I'd be curious to know what he think synchronicities mean and/or what causes them. Like the question above, I'm also curious about at what point a coincidence starts to feel like something more than that. Also, who first coined the phrase breakaway civilization and when? My impression is that it's something of a recent buzz phrase, but I haven't really been paying attention. Finally, is he familiar with Mac Tonnies' work on cryptoterrestirals and if so what's his opinion of it? Does it fit in with or diverge from his own work?
 
1. What types of modern day technologies do you suspect are the product of breakaway civilizations?

2. Have you recognized a pattern in the types of breakaway civilizations that exist and the types of technologies they are attributable to?

3. After viewing the most recent terroristic events across the globe, do you believe it's possible to pinpoint (with a reasonable degree of certainty) the next geographical area of attack? What types of factors play into your decision?

Thank you for your time and I look forward to the show.
 
Sue said:
I'd be curious to know what he think synchronicities mean and/or what causes them. Like the question above, I'm also curious about at what point a coincidence starts to feel like something more than that. Also, who first coined the phrase breakaway civilization and when? My impression is that it's something of a recent buzz phrase, but I haven't really been paying attention. Finally, is he familiar with Mac Tonnies' work on cryptoterrestirals and if so what's his opinion of it? Does it fit in with or diverge from his own work?
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A reading of about five books by Carl Jung followed by Hesse and a dose of more original writing Jung drew from might help you get to where you could read Synergetics by Bucky Fuller. Bosley is playing head games for money, most likely. A real synchronicity will by pass the brain and make you FEEL something you do not otherwise feel - in my experience. It can be a simple glance or what is called a Flash of Enlightenment, a tap-in to the collective or a 'quickening' of the soul. When people have no basis for evaluating the energy it creates 'visions'. Those visions might adhere to paradigm views or personal BELIEF. They need to be 'winnowed' from the chaff until whatever is real (gnosis or wisdom) can be applied for future insight and growth.
 
I have almost know doubt there are secret space and technology programs that explain most of what people in UFOlogy have called Alien. I will agree with the blogspot addressing Mac Tonnies on one point - UFOlogy is 'mummified" and worse. As to dimensional energy such as Keely addresses or Wilson and many more - it falls in the paranormal research areas - and people like Jung.

I have debated with a VP of McDonnell/Douglas in Long Beach who was in charge of the Skunk Works - more than once. I have met back-engineers from Tonopah. I lived just down the road from Groom Lake/Nellis/S-4 etc. Lots of people KNOW what is there and they know people who work there.

The Ascension thing falls under James's Religious experiences. His work about a century ago still stands tall. Jung was inspired by his pragmatic approach to reality - as am I.
 
Standanista said:
What are your three favourite synchronicities?
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It doesn't work that way.

ufology said:
It's been my experience in past discussions here with Bosley, that he grabs hold of a thread, unravels it part way, and leaves the rest up those who read his books. I'd prefer something that goes a bit beyond that. A bit more extrapolation using critical thinking. Your question would require that. But I guess that's just not everyone's style of writing.

Personally, I don't believe in breakaway civilizations. Private corporations and secret military projects and the like are part of our civilization, and if they had the kind of tech UFOs demonstrate, the mainstream military would have commandeered it by now. There are no secret Nazi bases in Antarctica with that kind of tech either or the same thing would have happened, and by now it would be all over the news. Have there been strange airship sightings? Sure, why not? Nobody needs to convince me about alien craft. But after that, we don't really have much other than theories and speculation.
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Thank God we are all set straight. Gene, cancel the show! It's all clear to me now that I've been so wrong. :D
 
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Robert Baird said:
A reading of about five books by Carl Jung followed by Hesse and a dose of more original writing Jung drew from might help you get to where you could read Synergetics by Bucky Fuller. Bosley is playing head games for money, most likely. A real synchronicity will by pass the brain and make you FEEL something you do not otherwise feel - in my experience. It can be a simple glance or what is called a Flash of Enlightenment, a tap-in to the collective or a 'quickening' of the soul. When people have no basis for evaluating the energy it creates 'visions'. Those visions might adhere to paradigm views or personal BELIEF. They need to be 'winnowed' from the chaff until whatever is real (gnosis or wisdom) can be applied for future insight and growth.
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I'm not making enough money to be accused of that. :)
Synchronicity is 'meaningful coincidence' with multiple levels.
 
Sue said:
I'd be curious to know what he think synchronicities mean and/or what causes them. Like the question above, I'm also curious about at what point a coincidence starts to feel like something more than that. Also, who first coined the phrase breakaway civilization and when? My impression is that it's something of a recent buzz phrase, but I haven't really been paying attention. Finally, is he familiar with Mac Tonnies' work on cryptoterrestirals and if so what's his opinion of it? Does it fit in with or diverge from his own work?
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I'll address this.
 
AlienEsq said:
1. What types of modern day technologies do you suspect are the product of breakaway civilizations?

2. Have you recognized a pattern in the types of breakaway civilizations that exist and the types of technologies they are attributable to?

3. After viewing the most recent terroristic events across the globe, do you believe it's possible to pinpoint (with a reasonable degree of certainty) the next geographical area of attack? What types of factors play into your decision?

Thank you for your time and I look forward to the show.
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I'll address this.
 


I get accused of making money and I have spent tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands doing the research and never made more than a thousand in any year.

Your definition reminds me of Koestler's book on Co-incidences. Pretty lame compared to people who 'creatively realize' (Fuller) new paradigms and Templates (Teilhard) connecting all that IS.

Would love to hear what evidence of ancient aliens you are willing to debate - many threads here to start from including Jason Colavito.
 
Walter Bosley said:
It doesn't work that way. Thank God we are all set straight. Gene, cancel the show! It's all clear to me now that I've been so wrong. :D
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Hey don't get me wrong. I actually enjoy your appearances on the show. It sparks the imagination. It's an interesting blend of history, folklore, and speculation. Plus it's cool that you come onto the forum and engage members afterwards, even if the exchanges between you and I have been rather awkward. I dunno why that is exactly, but it's not that big a deal. I've navigated through it before. You seem to enjoy being a bit of a wise guy ;) .
 
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Robert Baird said:
I get accused of making money and I have spent tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands doing the research and never made more than a thousand in any year.

Your definition reminds me of Koestler's book on Co-incidences. Pretty lame compared to people who 'creatively realize' (Fuller) new paradigms and Templates (Teilhard) connecting all that IS.

Would love to hear what evidence of ancient aliens you are willing to debate - many threads here to start from including Jason Colavito.
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Ah, we come to it. Your desire to 'debate', lol. I'm not actually a strong 'ancient aliens' guy just because I was on the show. Anyway, I was responding to your comment, remember. ;)
 
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