Ridiculous theories that the author know's is bogus but perpetuates

[Creepy Green Light]

Another person who I feel has no credence is Stan Romanek. He is famous for having a cardboard cutout of a grey alien appear in his front picture window. He was also seen to fake poltergeist activity in a video interview he did. Now he is accused of possessing child pornography. Of course, he and his wife claim that he is being framed for his dangerous disclosures of alien presence. Uh huh. I really don't want to waste more time writing about this man.

Agreed. And don't forget that Stan is also a convicted child molester.

 

[Randall]

I spent a lot of time (idle hands do the Reptilians work) creating my own little cataloging of UFO source and intent. This is a few years old, but I am going to share it. Why? Just in case it provokes other theories for consideration. My placement of individuals is purely subjective. My placement on the list means I have audio records of this person on file. I have many other files of other ufo related people but I cannot categorize where they fit below. For example, I have numerous Travis Walton files but no one seems to ask him if he thinks the aliens are good or evil in simplistic terms. Others like Richard Dolan seem to focus on disclosure and secret civilizations.

ALIENS/UFOS ARE:

1. A RACE OF REPTILIANS LIVING UNDER THE EARTH

TYPICAL PROMOTER: John Rhodes, Pamela Stonebrook

2. NAZI'S THAT DEVELOPED UFO TECHNOLOGY

TYPICAL PROMOTERS: Joseph Farrell, Len Kasten, Peter Levenda

3. A BENEVOLENT LIFE FORM FROM ANOTHER PLANET OR DIMENSION DOING RESEARCH OR HELPING HUMANKIND EVOLVE

Wilber Allen, Richard Boylan, Dolores Cannon, Miriam Delicado, Kim Carlsberg, Judy Carroll, Robert O. Dean, Michael Elligion (Ashtar Command), Charles Hall, Paola Harris, James Gilliland, Steven Greer, Michael Horn, Lyn Kitei, Nancy Leider, John Mack, Jim Moroney, Nick Redfern (Contactees), Mary Rodwell, Michael Salla, Robert Stiles, Clifford Stone, Whitley Strieber (on a good day), Paul Von Ward, Alfred Webre, David Wilcock

4. A MALEVOLENT LIFE FORM FROM ANOTHER PLANET OR DIMENSION

James Bartley, Timothy Beckley, Timothy Good, Budd Hopkins, David Jacobs, Jim Keith, Bill McDonald, John Lear, Eve Lorgen, Carrado Malanga, Nick Redfern (Men In Black), Anthony Sanchez (Dulce), Phil Schneider, Paul Schroeder, Derrel Sims, Whitley Strieber (on a bad day), Karla Turner, Butch Witkowski

4. FALLEN ANGELS/DEMONS

Tim Beckley, Doug Hamp, Tom Horn, Joe Jordan, Guy Malone, L. A. Marzulli, Chuck Missler, Nick Redfern (The Collins Group), Robert Stanley, Steve Quayle, Jim Wilhelmsen and thousands of Southern Baptist preachers.

5. ANTI-NUCLEAR WAR ACTIVISTS (Encounters at Nuclear Silo Sites)

Robert Hastings, Robert Salas

6. HUMAN HOAX OR PSYOPS

Melinda Leslie, Christian Lambright

7. THE RETURN OF THE ANNUNAKI

Mike Heiser, Marshall Klarfeld, Michael Telliger

8. THE WATCHERS

Glenn Kimball, Ken Johnson

9. DJINN

Ann Druffel, Rosemary Ellen Guiley

10. TIME TRAVELERS

11. MYSTERIOUS TRICKSTERS, MANIFESTED ARCHITYPES, PARANORMAL CHAMELEONS

Thomas Bullard, John Greer, George Hanson, Chris O'Brian, Jacques Vallee

Wow. Glad I didn't see my name in there. LOL. For the record I do believe alien visitation has taken place in modern times and that some UFO reports reflect that reality. Exactly where the aliens are from or what their agenda is, I don't know for certain, but IMO the ETH is the most reasonable, while alternate dimensions, transports from Hell, Secret Terrestrial Civilizations, Raëlian ambassadors, and the like are 97.875 -110% nonsense.

 

[Randall]

Ridiculous Theory #3: Aliens have come here to deliver an important message to humanity and I ( INSERT NAME HERE ) have been selected as their ambassador.

 

[Spectre73]

Man will probably never leave the solar system in our life time. Unless there is a major scientific break through, I doubt anyone alive on Earth today will see humans leave the solar system simply because "where would they go?" Unless there is a dramatic discovery, it would take generations to get to the nearest planetary system. Without warp drive or bending space/time, this just isn't going to happen very fast.

Absolutely agree totally on that. Not in our lifetime. But Never! No...

 

[Creepy Green Light]

Oh yeah, and another example of how the "experts" said something is impossible and yet they are wrong again;

The Morristown (NJ) UFO Hoax. This was big news. All over TV, internet & newspapers. Even an entire episode of "UFO Hunters" was dedicated to it. Bill Birnes and his crack squad of UFO hunters tried duplicating the sightings with balloons & flares. Impossible. They even interviewed the eye witnesses to show them their flare version UFO attempt and the witnesses said "No, that looks nothing like what I saw." Meanwhile, thats exactly what they all saw. Two young college students documented the entire hoax involving multiple nights. They bring the camera out to the woods with the helium tanks to show you how they attached the flares to the balloons and launched them. They then watched what the media said about it (and witnesses). It was done as a "social experiment".

But it was interesting to see Bill Birnes and crew try and duplicate it and then deem that it's impossible. The best part is when Bill was watching the eyewitnesses footage on a large flat screen (in the persons home) and Bill points to the screen and says "whoa! Look at that. You can almost see how this is one large object!" (it was 3 points of light in a triangle pattern). The only issue is that it was just that - 3 points of light. 3 flares hanging from balloons on fishing line. Yet, Bill seemed to almost see the shape of the solid triangle object - lol.

So that's one of the reasons Im more jaded when I heard "experts" claim that "it can't be a hoax because blah blah" or "it can't be duplicated by a person because blah blah". Just about EVERYTHING can be duplicated (that we've seen up to now).

 

[Creepy Green Light]

Absolutely agree totally on that. Not in our lifetime. But Never! No...

Exactly. I think it will definitely happen. Just not anytime soon. Maybe something our grandchildrens grandchildren grandchildren etc. might see.

 

[SheaOlmsford]

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To answer your one part, no. I don't care if 50,000 "experts" say its impossible or unlikely. Again, look at the other examples I've stated about other "experts" saying something is impossible (crop circles) and yet it turns out its not only possible it's two guys with a plank of wood & rope. But yet, these "experts" were willing to put their life on the line saying that it's impossible to hoax. Then they go on to give 1000 different examples of why it couldn't have possibly be done by man. And yet it was.

Planes crashed into the building. Jets actually. With massive amounts of JP5 jet fuel on them. Both towers crumbled.

Maybe the pilots of the two jets were actually aliens. You know, the ones hiding on the dark side of the moon in their secret base?

All I will say is this. If you discount EXPERT input from professional architects and engineers, then that tells me you are making a dogma out of your opinion. Jet fuel when ignited is not hot enough to melt steel and cause a building to collapse. But you are "set in your ways". It is not logical to compare the input of professional architects and engineers to New Age types who proclaim that crop circles are not man made. It is not logical to compare the collapse of the twin towers to a UFO case. Bill Birne's opinion on a UFO case cannot rationally be compared to professional architects and engineers who make a living by creating buildings that are safe.

 

[SheaOlmsford]

Agreed. And don't forget that Stan is also a convicted child molester.

No, he has not been convicted. His trial has yet to begin. He is being held in custody for having child porn on his PC. There is no evidence he ever touched a child.

 

[SheaOlmsford]

Ridiculous Theory #3: Aliens have come here to deliver an important message to humanity and I ( INSERT NAME HERE ) have been selected as their ambassador.

My mind immediately thinks of so-called abductee Jim Sparks. I know that if I was an alien species wanting to contact humans, I would take my message to a real estate agent with a mullet. LOL

 

[Christopher O'Brien]

Agreed. And don't forget that Stan is also a convicted child molester.

NO, Romanek is NOT a "convicted child molester." He has been charged w/ possessing child pornography on his computer, big difference! Please get your facts straight before you callously slander someone.

 

[Gene Steinberg]

Unfortunately, being charged with any sexual crime, regardless of the outcome, can pretty much screw someone's reputation for good. But it's important this distinction be drawn between being accused and being convicted.

 

[SheaOlmsford]

Oh yeah, and another example of how the "experts" said something is impossible and yet they are wrong again;

The Morristown (NJ) UFO Hoax. This was big news. All over TV, internet & newspapers. Even an entire episode of "UFO Hunters" was dedicated to it. Bill Birnes and his crack squad of UFO hunters tried duplicating the sightings with balloons & flares. Impossible. They even interviewed the eye witnesses to show them their flare version UFO attempt and the witnesses said "No, that looks nothing like what I saw." Meanwhile, thats exactly what they all saw. Two young college students documented the entire hoax involving multiple nights. They bring the camera out to the woods with the helium tanks to show you how they attached the flares to the balloons and launched them. They then watched what the media said about it (and witnesses). It was done as a "social experiment".

But it was interesting to see Bill Birnes and crew try and duplicate it and then deem that it's impossible. The best part is when Bill was watching the eyewitnesses footage on a large flat screen (in the persons home) and Bill points to the screen and says "whoa! Look at that. You can almost see how this is one large object!" (it was 3 points of light in a triangle pattern). The only issue is that it was just that - 3 points of light. 3 flares hanging from balloons on fishing line. Yet, Bill seemed to almost see the shape of the solid triangle object - lol.

So that's one of the reasons Im more jaded when I heard "experts" claim that "it can't be a hoax because blah blah" or "it can't be duplicated by a person because blah blah". Just about EVERYTHING can be duplicated (that we've seen up to now).

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[Creepy Green Light]

No, he has not been convicted. His trial has yet to begin. He is being held in custody for having child porn on his PC. There is no evidence he ever touched a child.

My mistake and I stand corrected. I was pretty sure he was convicted, I was wrong.

But what has the BEST odds? Stan having a peeping Tom E.T. caught on camera multiple times OR Stan having kiddie porn on his computer? Which would be the smart bet?

 

[Creepy Green Light]

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All I will say is this. If you discount EXPERT input from professional architects and engineers, then that tells me you are making a dogma out of your opinion. Jet fuel when ignited is not hot enough to melt steel and cause a building to collapse. But you are "set in your ways". It is not logical to compare the input of professional architects and engineers to New Age types who proclaim that crop circles are not man made. It is not logical to compare the collapse of the twin towers to a UFO case. Bill Birne's opinion on a UFO case cannot rationally be compared to professional architects and engineers who make a living by creating buildings that are safe.

So jet fuel cannot MELT steal, it can definitely WEAKEN it. Which would then cause said structure to collapse. What's the other theory then? That in the middle of the night somebody secretly planted dynamite all over both towers and then coordinated the attacks with the hijackers? They waited till a little bit after jet impact then pushed the "T" plunger down to cause the collapse?

"The collapse of both World Trade Center towers—and the smaller WTC 7 a few hours later—initially surprised even some experts. But subsequent studies have shown that the WTC's structural integrity was destroyed by intense fire as well as the severe damage inflicted by the planes. That explanation hasn't swayed conspiracy theorists, who contend that all three buildings were wired with explosives in advance and razed in a series of controlled demolitions."

 

[Creepy Green Light]

What seems more plausible?

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[Randall]

Ridiculous Theory #4: Everything you think you know about UFOs is wrong because ( INSERT NAME OF RELIGION HERE ) tells me so.

 

[SheaOlmsford]

Ridiculous Theory #4: Everything you think you know about UFOs is wrong because ( INSERT NAME OF RELIGION HERE ) tells me so.

That is a variation on ALIENS ARE DEMONS because my religion was created in the bronze age and does not account for alien intelligence. Therefore, they must be demons.

 

[Creepy Green Light]

Ridiculous Theory #4: Everything you think you know about UFOs is wrong because ( INSERT NAME OF RELIGION HERE ) tells me so.

Exactly. "UFO? I laugh in your face because the concept of a flying vehicle from another planet with a lifeform from another planet piloting it is ridiculous. But I fully believe that somewhere in the past a snake had vocal chords or lips/tongue and could talk, and that there was a magic apple, and that a woman stuck to her story that she was a virgin but yet had a kid, etc. etc." Yeah, because all of that stuff is WAY more believable than a spacecraft from another planet with it's occupant(s) piloting it.

 

[Burnt State]

Wow. Glad I didn't see my name in there. LOL. For the record I do believe alien visitation has taken place in modern times and that some UFO reports reflect that reality. Exactly where the aliens are from or what their agenda is, I don't know for certain, but IMO the ETH is the most reasonable, while alternate dimensions, transports from Hell, Secret Terrestrial Civilizations, Raëlian ambassadors, and the like are 97.875 -110% nonsense.

so i know we need to continue that other thread on critiquing Vallee and the ETH, but just briefly, with these alien visitations that you are certain of, would you say that there have been many of them, like in the ridiculous claims of Jacobs where there is a hybrid takeover that is supposed to manifest any day now as proven in his many intimate hypnotic sessions, or would you say that these visitations are much more rare in that Carl Sagan kind of way? are there any specific alien visitation cases in the modern era you could cite that you feel reflect this reality?

 

[Randall]

so i know we need to continue that other thread on critiquing Vallee and the ETH, but just briefly, with these alien visitations that you are certain of, would you say that there have been many of them, like in the ridiculous claims of Jacobs where there is a hybrid takeover that is supposed to manifest any day now as proven in his many intimate hypnotic sessions, or would you say that these visitations are much more rare in that Carl Sagan kind of way? are there any specific alien visitation cases in the modern era you could cite that you feel reflect this reality?

I responded to the issue of mass abductions here: Ridiculous theories that the author know's is bogus but perpetuates

Sightings on the other hand only require a few seconds, making it possible for a single fast moving UFO to be spotted by multiple witnesses over a wide area in a fairly short span of time. For example, over the course of a single day ( 24 hrs. ) a single craft could in theory travel to multiple places around the entire globe and be seen by millions of people. So unlike abductions, only a single instance of alien visitation is required to explain many reports. Given that situation, and 60+ years instead of a single day, it's not all that far fetched to think that millions of people could have seen an alien craft ( UFO ), and that only a few craft are actually responsible.

In my casual polling of people, nearly everyone I talk to has either seen something strange themselves or knows somebody in their circle of family and friends who has. Even if we only take 25% of that number, we're still looking at a large number of people. Like I always say. I can't be the only one: I'm just not that special.