Lauren Jones
Skilled Investigator
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Interesting. He did seem very shocked and angry that it was false though. I would like to hear his response to this. Does anyone know when this was taped?
As I was thinking about this one thing struck me. He has passed at least 7 other polygraphs. They asked othr questions that inclued the abduction from a UFO motif and no deception was detected. When he does pass a polygraph I didn't hear skeptics everywhere saying "Well, he did pass the polygraph so I guess it happened." but I guarantee you that Shermer will start to use this ""False" as new justification that he made the whole thing up. In the end, we have only eye witness testimony and a hand full of radiation test results and circumstantial sightings in the area. unfortunately this just firther muddies the water for the phenomenon. I gotta say though, he has some huge galvanized stainless steel balls to sit in that seat.
The last question asked was straightforward enough* Were you abducted by a UFO in November 1975. And very Interesting it came back as false.
The host of the show said to Travis the polygraph conclusively showed you were being deceptive. Is Travis hiding something from us?
This is from Travis Waltons reply. Truth about The Moment of Truth
I don't know whether Travis was abducted or not. It remains a 'grey case' for me and reasonably interesting. I listened to a Travis Walton interview on WHFR radio some weeks ago and he seems sincere. All parties involved have stood by him. Saying that, I've heard the tape where his brother phoned NUFORC and reported the incident a day before Travis Walton reappeared. He doesn't come across like a guy who's brother has gone missing and is being suspected of foul play by the local law.
There's a focus on the last answer that overlooks the previous ones. If the others that referred to the abduction were accepted as 'true' then the polygraph must be inherently flawed. If the final answer is 'false' then the others must be wrong. This throws all the show's polygraph responses into question as far I'm concerned.
Inconclusive...like it always is.
ETA: Travis Walton has posted a response to the show just 15 minutes back on ATS. You can read his reply.... Travis Walton (Moment Of Truth) Proof, Hes A Liar!!, page 5
Travis here. That's a fair question. The best answer being that I was an idiot. Too much overtime dulled my mind.
I should have seen it coming. I should have known better. But there were unique circumstances. The company where I had worked for almost a decade announced a corporate headquarters decision to downsize by permanently terminating the fifty most recently hired workers, regardless of their performance. My hire date put me on that list. I came home that same day to receive a phone call inviting me to be a “contestant” on a show I’d never seen that offered the possibility of winning up to $100,000. An opportunity to solve my layoff problem? I was wary. I began taping our negotiations. I watched an episode. I knew the examiner was their man, with every incentive to keep his employers from having to pay out big prize money. I wrote e-mails to a few of my friends about my apprehensions. I wrestled with doubt. I learned the show specialized in setting “contestants” up for dramatically devastating revelations. Still, all I had to do was answer 25 questions truthfully, what could be easier than that? Impossible, I later learned. In all the show’s years NO contestant had ever won the top prize. But I didn’t know that yet, so I asked, does the examiner use modern accepted methodology? I was assured he did. This was as far from true as you can get. The producer telling me this untruth may have believed it simply because the higher ups said so. Or they all, producers and network, may have been deceived by the examiner, who, with his training, absolutely had to know his methods were bogus. We went back and forth. I sent them my refusal. They came back and were very persuasive and said they were planning on responding to criticisms by making sure more prizes would be awarded. I so very foolishly yielded to the temptation. Even after arriving for taping I learned such disappointing details and got such bad vibes that I announced I was going home, but my objections were again negotiated away. I found out a major portion of episodes already taped never aired because the “contestants” withdrew and walked out.
The host of the show said to Travis the polygraph conclusively showed you were being deceptive. Is Travis hiding something from us?
i was trained to pass polys. i'm prior service US army intelligence. it's really not that complicated. however, the average person, when under pressure and fear, will not pass one. if he were lying or being deceptive, he would have failed his first couple polygraph tests. he made it through 7 up until this one. i imagine it was his nerves about being on the show and having his abduction being openly broadcast. additionally, it's true what he said about them only being accurate to a point. a lot of it depends on the test administrator because reading a poly is really a matter of interpretation. i'm not entirely convinced that aliens exist, BUT i believe this man is telling the truth to the best of his knowledge. that's just my two cents.
I'm guessing that the polygraph is widely available in countries outside the US that, after capturing an American agent/soldier, may try to use it to evaluate the validity of the information extracted in an interrogation. Then again, people may start to think that some US army personnel are trained to beat polygraphs so that they can lie to their own people without being recognized as doing soHold on, your saying that the Army, the U.S. Army, trained you to beat a polygraph. what was your MOS? What job in the US Army requires a soldier that can beat a polygraph?
Hold on, your saying that the Army, the U.S. Army, trained you to beat a polygraph. what was your MOS? What job in the US Army requires a soldier that can beat a polygraph?
I'm guessing that the polygraph is widely available in countries outside the US that, after capturing an American agent/soldier, may try to use it to evaluate the validity of the information extracted in an interrogation. Then again, people may start to think that some US army personnel are trained to beat polygraphs so that they can lie to their own people without being recognized as doing so
I was trying to be funny. From what I know enemy forces are usually far less kind in their methods of interrogation. Currently, the polygraph is a machine that only makes sense for TV show producers.I have never heard of that outside of special forces and by that I mean specifically SFOD-D (Delta Force) and I am not even sure that is accurate.
I was trying to be funny. From what I know enemy forces are usually far less kind in their methods of interrogation. Currently, the polygraph is a machine that only makes sense for TV show producers.