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July 5th, 2009 - Jim Dilettosso
- Thread starter Gareth
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Rocketsauce
Haagen-Dazs Addict
I totally agree, Jim is a good guy and seems very thorough yet open to improving his methods. He also has a very cool background in working with bands!
The only thing I would add is that if I were him, I would be more diligent from the get go whenever someone uses my name and reputation in a misleading way to further their own agenda. As soon as I heard someone was crediting me with something I didn't do or twisting my analysis in a public setting, I would be all over their ass! But Jim seems like a mellow dude. DB would not let this shit slide for sure!!!
2 things I had taken for granted before this episode:
- all parts of Billy Meier are a complete fraud
- those were flares in the second part of the phoenix lights
Yet, Jim did some serious research into both and the evidence did not lean towards these conclusions. Very interesting.
Once again my signature seems appropriate to me:
"The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing!"
The only thing I would add is that if I were him, I would be more diligent from the get go whenever someone uses my name and reputation in a misleading way to further their own agenda. As soon as I heard someone was crediting me with something I didn't do or twisting my analysis in a public setting, I would be all over their ass! But Jim seems like a mellow dude. DB would not let this shit slide for sure!!!
2 things I had taken for granted before this episode:
- all parts of Billy Meier are a complete fraud
- those were flares in the second part of the phoenix lights
Yet, Jim did some serious research into both and the evidence did not lean towards these conclusions. Very interesting.
Once again my signature seems appropriate to me:
"The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing!"
bobheck
Disco still sucks.
Something is not right here. There is a disconnect. Dilettosso is in the Hall of Shame on ufowatchdog.com.
http://www.ufowatchdog.com/hall2.html
Dave and Gene kind of gave him a pass on this, and anecdotally mentioned the Meier stuff at the end of the show.
He sounds intelligent and is very well spoken -- but then again so is Hoagland.
Did Dilettosso endorse the Billy Meier photos as genuine or not?
If so, did he ever recant his assessment of the Meier photos?
Should his status be reconsidered on watchdog?
What gives?
http://www.ufowatchdog.com/hall2.html
Dave and Gene kind of gave him a pass on this, and anecdotally mentioned the Meier stuff at the end of the show.
He sounds intelligent and is very well spoken -- but then again so is Hoagland.
Did Dilettosso endorse the Billy Meier photos as genuine or not?
If so, did he ever recant his assessment of the Meier photos?
Should his status be reconsidered on watchdog?
What gives?
Rocketsauce
Haagen-Dazs Addict
My impression from hearing Jim on the paracast a couple times (first time was X conference epsisode) is that Jim's seal of approval has been spun by certain people. While he did analysis on some of the early photos from Meier and from his tests decided they were legit, he was not involved in any later analysis. So to say that Jim is a big supporter of the all the Meier material including the obviously fake photos is over stating his work on this case. it doesn't seem like he should be in the hall of shame, other than for his lack of publicly fighting certain people that misleadingly use his name to support their agenda. But then again, I'm just basing this on hearing 2 interviews with him on the paracast.
David Biedny
Paranormal Adept
Listen to the episode. Carefully.
See that part where I got him to admit that the "wedding cake" photos were miniatures? As in FAKES?
You're welcome.
We're walking a fine line here. Appreciate the realities of doing this show, and dealing with people who have complex realities.
Reminds me of this scene from my favorite movie:
dB
See that part where I got him to admit that the "wedding cake" photos were miniatures? As in FAKES?
You're welcome.
We're walking a fine line here. Appreciate the realities of doing this show, and dealing with people who have complex realities.
Reminds me of this scene from my favorite movie:
dB
This is the kind of episode I love. I got half way through the Nancy Talbot episode and turned it off. I do think such episodes are valuable in casting a rational eye upon such claims. And that is invaluable. But I am sick of listening to BS, with respect to David and Gene. I think they do such shows as the Nancy Talbot episode because so are they. But this was a good episode. Jim seems to approach cases with objectivity, and that's refreshing.
Rocketsauce
Haagen-Dazs Addict
Gottcha. To me Jim came off as openly admitting some of the photos were fakes, but I didn't think those fakes were the same ones he gave his seal of approval too. But I stand corrected.
Gareth
Nothin' to see here
I like hearing that shop talk. Even if 80% of it goes over my head.
Gives me a better understanding and appreciation for image analysis and the techniques and work that goes into it.
CapnG
Devil's Advocate
I guess I'm the opposite. I get about 80% of it but I'd rather just hear the end results than have time taken up unecessarily with the analysis. There's so much to discuss and only two hours to discuss it. After all, it's an interview show not a seminar. Fortunately this was not the case as I feared. Gene and David kept things running along smoothly and the minor amount of jargon involving the weaknesses of analog video cameras was informative.
cottonzway
I was saying boo-urns
I just started listening and roughly 10 minutes in David starts talking about "one world gubmint!" I knew he worked for David Rockefeller! I'm on to you!.....
skunkape
Paranormal Maven
I thought they were talking about Spectreman at one point.
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CapnG
Devil's Advocate
David Biedny
Paranormal Adept
Outstanding find, dmabo. I'll email Dilettoso this right now, and ask him to come on here and tell us his reaction.
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Gareth
Nothin' to see here
Great stuff dmabo. That absolutely settles it IMO.
The problem now is that most of the public doesnt know that the "Phoenix Lights" was actually two separate events, so anyone that sees this video will think that is the end of it. (and Im sure that was the point of the flares in the first place)
The problem now is that most of the public doesnt know that the "Phoenix Lights" was actually two separate events, so anyone that sees this video will think that is the end of it. (and Im sure that was the point of the flares in the first place)
bobheck
Disco still sucks.
So true.
Look guys, I remember seeing this years ago, I really do. I actually was taken aback when David and Gareth chimed in as if it was news to them, honestly. Whatever this was, must not have been a widely watched program and I just happen to catch it. It was several years ago.
But it was the reports of large craft SEEN flying overhead that was the interesting part of the story. This (flares) all happened later - re: Gareth's statement.
David Biedny
Paranormal Adept
I've not seen this material until now. Yes, believe it, there's plenty of stuff I haven't seen, only so many hours in the day. Definitely puts that whole part to bed for me, and yes, we've talked about the 2 separate events on the show more than a couple of times.
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Gareth
Nothin' to see here
To be fair, the only way I knew about the whole 'two separate events' thing is by listening to the Paracast.
(I still think the Mike Fortson interview is one of the best shows you guys have done... some of what was mentioned in that interview just floored me. I had no idea)
The general public has no hope.