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UFOs,Aliens, And Racism By: Posey Gilbert


Posey Gilbert

Paranormal Maven



It seems to me that although UFO and alien encounters take place through out the world whenever they are being televised or made into a documentary there is always an absence of people of color in them.
Is it that these things do not occur to people of a darker hue?
Or is it that the media feels that these people are less credible because they mainly occupy the lower rung of the social ladder in western societies?
Because of this there is a wide spread notion among the minorities that minorities are not abducted by these beings what ever they are.
As a result those that are, are less likely to talk about it or seek help when the reality that these things do happen brings their "Weltanschauung" crashing down about their ears.
They are for the most part left to fend for themselves by family friends and their churches.
Some go crazy and other seek the solace offered by drugs, alcohol, among and in some cases madness and suicide.
Of course this happens to Caucasians as well, but when they report these things, the media seems more than willing to come running to investigate what is going on.
I often wonder if the sightings that are taking place in Mexico, and South America were taking place, in such numbers over Europe, what would be the media's response then?
If Betty Hill had not been with Barney when the abduction took place, or had been black, Native American, Asian or a Latin, what then?
Would there have been any attention at all paid to them?
As it is although Barney was there also, so little is known about how it affected him, and those about him that, he may as well not have been there at all.
True Barney may not have been as forth coming about this as was Betty, and I am grateful that she was.
Still saying that their roles had been reversed would White America have listened?
Unfortunately I am forced to answer that in the negative for even with the incident in Africa made famous by the late Professor John Mack in the early nineties, why were there so few black Africans interviewed?
When I asked him about that at a lecture he gave his response was,
"Well I will be going back to Africa to speak to more black people about abductions."
My response was,
"You don't have to go to Africa to speak to black people there are plenty of us here."
It was not said to be confrontational but to point out to him that there was a resource closer to home that he could focus on also.
Please understand I am not over looking the fact that like most people, black people will not talk about these events when they happen to them, not even to each other.
Oddly enough they seem to adhere to the old lines delivered by Project Blue Book and Carl Sagan even more so than do most whites.
Yet in the same breath they will say they don't believe anything that the white media says.
The biggest surprise to me is that some do not even know when they have actually witnessed a UFO or had a significant sighting!
A good example of that was shown to me when I tracked down a fellow that over forty years ago witness an awesome display in the skies of the South Bronx with fifty others and me.
During the passing of an enormous UFO Cloud Ship as I called it then (Plasma Craft) as some call them today, the clear night sky ripped open to show another sky within the sky.
That sky was lighter than ours, as if it was just after sun down where we were seeing, although the sun had set where we were.
That sky had other stars in it, but in other configurations.
Then a huge moon like ball rose out of this other sky and passed through the opening, which immediately closed behind it.
This other moon like object then danced in arches in our skies before expanding and fading away into a faint grayness.
This happened three times in succession.
At that point I left thinking that if this was the end of the world I preferred to die at home with my family.
When I finally relocated Robert Epps some thirty years later to my shock and utter amazement he said he hadn't thought about it anymore since it happened, and that not one of the other fifty plus people there ever spoke of it beyond that point.
He then told me I should forget about it!
As a result of this kind of thinking, it seems there is now a rift with in the UFO community.
There are those that believe that the aliens will come to annihilate one race in favor of the other.
The Nordics will kill off all the blacks, and the Nibiru will kill off all the whites while those hated Greys are coming to eat everyone.
This is but a small part of the nonsense I hear spouted these days.
In my experiences I have encountered Nordics as some call them, Greys, and jet-black beings and truly I feel they do not feel a difference toward any of us.
We to them are just another species that they are studying, or harvesting at this time.
It is foolish for us to attach our racist viewpoints to them for to them we are but one race, human.


 
If they are harvesting conciousness, as has been suggested , then skin colour is of peripheral significance.
With the obvious aspect of the treatment that person received as a result of skin colour on their conciousness.

I tend to think our native bio-forms are small fish in the bigger picture
 
Okay I have to strongly disagree with this idea...first of all the Betty and Barny Hill case is classic and is the first and most significant case in our past 50 yrs. history that was taken seriously and had nothing to do with either of their skin color, they were ridiculed by many people both of them had to endure this.(or however long it's been now). Second of all , I come from Native American blood and know for a fact that they have been taken for many yrs. to visit with our "star brothers" and it has been spoken of and written about by many avenues and resources, so it isn't about color. There was a huge deal made on a big network news channel of the children in an African school who were visited by a large craft , all of them black in color, and to see something regarding ET or ufos on the evening news without it being condensending is rare to say the least. But those kids were interviewed and their drawings shown , etc. So rest assured it has nothing to do with your skin tone.
As for this other crap you're hearing about some coming to kill the blacks,others killing off whitey, and greys eating people and all that nonsense, I'd advise you choose more carefully were you spend your time finding info. It is good to see that there are places and people of misinformation and fear/anger porn out there and steer clear of them. There's no sense in putting that stuff in your head, it's all a bunch of malarky! (I'm part Irish too ;)) Just do yourself a favor and don't buy into that kind of crap. As you stated, we are but one race to them (and me) Human.
Peace
 
I find it interesting and a lil disturbing that the need for us to be scared about what we are doing to our planet keeps surfacing with encounters the past 10 or 20 yrs. Seems like an ominous warning to pay attention to. I also agree with the need and since my own experiences have become an advocate for the environment .
 
I'm the same,
I was watching the news just the other night and there was a piece on the the gorillas in uganda, getting wiped out by poachers and in the crossfire of the local war.

I said to my wife, "how can we be doing this, they are our cousins, our family, there are 6 billion of us, and we cant set aside a small plot of habitat so they can live and evolve in peace ?"

But then we kill each other off without much conscience, why would i think they would get any better consideration.

Its why i am all for a world government, as unpopular as that idea is in these circles.
If i ruled the world, i would move humans out of these habitats, and let these creatures evolve unmolested.
Regional governors cant make the sorts of global decisions that we now need if we want to preserve these animals. Policy must be made from the big picture pov.
Its humans that need to be put into reserves and their numbers managed imo
 
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In my experience with co workers and others I find that black people are more religious than the "white" media likes to believe. No, they don't get all up in your face over religion like the upper middle class white bread evangelist do. But, they still have a very strong inner resolve and even though it's not as strong as it once was the "church" is still a bedrock of cultural norm. So, (at least with my fellow southerners who are black, that I know) ;) the talk of E.T. or giants on the earth or u.f.o.'s is for the most part either demonic deception or people mistaking things such as aircraft. Also, the poor of any society be they white or black or others tend to be busy getting the next loaf of bread or enough gas to drive. So, on one hand you have the middle class African American's who I work with who have a basic belief in their faith and don't tend to mess with "silly stuff" and on the other end you have poor people who don't have time to worry about it. Anyway, as I've said before "generalizations are always wrong" so, no I'm not saying that I have the inside scoop on how people think. But, I am sharing a perspective of some people that I have talked to or tried to talk with about the subject. Also, today as I got up and out early I stopped to get coffee at my favorite coffee shop. As I was setting there reading and sipping coffee I overheard a table full of guys talking about their faith. They were so sure of their "mission" and so full of serious "truth" and it certainly reminded me of my own upbringing and times when I would "search" for the truth within my faith. I had the thought "Man these guys are just to serious." They need to lighten up and just live a little. Lately, I've been thinking that about the u.f.o. and other paranormal stuff. We can get so serious about it. But, it keeps you going in circles. I've wondered about just backing away from the whole mess and just no taking anything quite so seriously when it has pretty much no chance of ever being established as fact. But, then again, maybe that's part of the fun. Life is to serious to go through it as a zealot of anything. But, to go through it without even thinking about the reason and the purpose is also to miss the point. I think (and I could be wrong) that this world is part of the journey, not the destination. Maybe, in a spiritual sense we are evolving just as we are evolving technologically. Maybe, the universe and the planets and the "empty space" is our destiny. Maybe, when we look out and say "wow, look at all that empty space." We are actually looking at our future home and it isn't empty (or won't always be empty) after all.
 
I'm the same,
I was watching the news just the other night and there was a piece on the the gorillas in uganda, getting wiped out by poachers and in the crossfire of the local war.

I said to my wife, "how can we be doing this, they are our cousins, our family, there are 6 billion of us, and we cant set aside a small plot of habitat so they can live and evolve in peace ?"

But then we kill each other off without much conscience, why would i think they would get any better consideration.

Its why i am all for a world government, as unpopular as that idea is in these circles.
If i ruled the world, i would move humans out of these habitats, and let these creatures evolve unmolested.
Regional governors cant make the sorts of global decisions that we now need if we want to preserve these animals. Policy must be made from the big picture pov.
Its humans that need to be put into reserves and their numbers managed imo
world government? moving humans out of a habitat and let creatures evolve? are you crazy?
that is one of the most absurd things ever on these forums. WE are creatures, we have a right to be here.
 
world government? moving humans out of a habitat and let creatures evolve? are you crazy?
that is one of the most absurd things ever on these forums. WE are creatures, we have a right to be here.

I'm with you. The whole humans are a plague on the Earth attitude is absurdest and defeatist. You cannot fit into the system if you view yourself as either above it, as having dominion over nature, or outside of it, as in a disease or virus. Romanticising other animal life to the point where you devalue your own species is extremely unhealthy as well as absurd.
 
Okay I have to strongly disagree with this idea...first of all the Betty and Barny Hill case is classic and is the first and most significant case in our past 50 yrs. history that was taken seriously and had nothing to do with either of their skin color, they were ridiculed by many people both of them had to endure this.(or however long it's been now). Second of all , I come from Native American blood and know for a fact that they have been taken for many yrs. to visit with our "star brothers" and it has been spoken of and written about by many avenues and resources, so it isn't about color. There was a huge deal made on a big network news channel of the children in an African school who were visited by a large craft , all of them black in color, and to see something regarding ET or ufos on the evening news without it being condensending is rare to say the least. But those kids were interviewed and their drawings shown , etc. So rest assured it has nothing to do with your skin tone.
As for this other crap you're hearing about some coming to kill the blacks,others killing off whitey, and greys eating people and all that nonsense, I'd advise you choose more carefully were you spend your time finding info. It is good to see that there are places and people of misinformation and fear/anger porn out there and steer clear of them. There's no sense in putting that stuff in your head, it's all a bunch of malarky! (I'm part Irish too ;)) Just do yourself a favor and don't buy into that kind of crap. As you stated, we are but one race to them (and me) Human.
Peace



C.K I am descended from the Cherokee Nation on my fathers' Mothers' side and German from my mothers' fathers' side.
The family joke is that my Mothers maiden name was Gilbert before she married my father.
But because of slavery before they could marry my grandparents had to sit down and trace back their family roots before they allowed them to be wedded.
My mothers' father was Caucasian the son of Posey Lee Gilbert.
My fathers' father Oliver Gilbert was a freed slave and as was customary in those days, he took the last name of his last owner Gilbert, but before that the Walkers, who sold him to the Martinsons, who sold him to the Gravellys, who sold him to the Gilberts, who where the to own him.
(FYI: This policy is still active today but it is only applied to our pets by the Vets.)
Once my grandparents saw there were no genetic connections between the two Gilberts they then allowed the two to marry.
This foolishness is why when I started to hear this racist bullshit being added to the UFO and Alien confusion I sat down and wrote my article.
The article is about the stupidity I have over the years heard about within the UFO phenomena and not in praise of it my friend.
I never believed, or accepted it.
As for Betty and Barney Hill the story focused on Betty, only recently has the Hills' niece started to talk about Barney's experiences on board the craft.
 
Interesting story you have there. I come from a colorful blend myself being part German, Irish, Chippewa, and Cherokee. Now my children are even more colorful with more Cherokee, Scottish, Scandanavian, and Welsh added into the mix. WE are "the brigdes" now ,you see! And I'm glad to hear you aren't buying in to this, sorry if I misunderstood. I think Barney's side of the story wasn't in the forefront because he was a quiet man and his wife was the one blbbing (as us women usually do) , plus she is the one who saw the star map and that became a very interesting part of the story, so of course th efocus would be on her for that reason. I really don't think , at least not now that color has anything to do with it. Perhaps when the pair of them first came forward, but certainly not now.
Peace.
 
I need to clarify in the Ruwa case the children were not all black in colour, both the teaching staff and pupils are mixed at this school

#!

Thanks Mike, you are once again right on point.
This is a more complete film than the one he showed us the first time.
He said that he was going back to interview more children and would interview blacks.
I am glad to see he was a man of his word, and kept the promise he made to me at that S. P.A.C.E. Group Gathering.
Thanks again.
 
world government? moving humans out of a habitat and let creatures evolve? are you crazy?
that is one of the most absurd things ever on these forums. WE are creatures, we have a right to be here.

I never said we didnt have a right to be here, my point was about balance, whats absurd is to let our population get so out of proportion to the other tenants that we wind up killing them off.

Experts estimate that the rate at which species are going extinct is at least 1,000 times higher than it should be from natural factors alone.
Wildlife habitats worldwide are being destroyed, degraded, or fragmented, all of which often lead to species becoming threatened or endangered. It is critical that we protect and restore forest ecosystems – which provide habitat and support hundreds of species of flora and fauna. Establishing and protecting corridors that connect ecosystems also helps to provide wildlife with critical habitat.
As human development continues to expand into wildlife habitats, the situation can become more dangerous for wildlife and humans alike. In Florida and Louisiana, the black bear is experiencing more conflict with humans in regions that were once its natural habitat, and are now being cleared for housing and commercial developments. A similar situation is happening with tigers in Sumatra, orangutans in Malaysia, and many other species of wildlife all over the world.
A recent study estimated that if current trends continue, a shocking 1 million species will become endangered in just the next 50 years.
Forests & Wildlife Habitat | American Forests

To me whats absurd, is that any species should be wiped out just to provide more room for humans, there are billions of us, do we really need any more at such a cost ?

Its funny how you mention a "right to be here", but think it only applies to humans, we "all" have a right to be here, thus human population must be managed better than it is now to ensure a fair go for all species
 
I'm with you. The whole humans are a plague on the Earth attitude is absurdest and defeatist. You cannot fit into the system if you view yourself as either above it, as having dominion over nature, or outside of it, as in a disease or virus. Romanticising other animal life to the point where you devalue your own species is extremely unhealthy as well as absurd.

And from my pov and backed up by the quote above the whole humans are not a plague on the earth attitude, is head in the sand and blinkered.
 
Interesting story you have there. I come from a colorful blend myself being part German, Irish, Chippewa, and Cherokee. Now my children are even more colorful with more Cherokee, Scottish, Scandanavian, and Welsh added into the mix. WE are "the brigdes" now ,you see! And I'm glad to hear you aren't buying in to this, sorry if I misunderstood. I think Barney's side of the story wasn't in the forefront because he was a quiet man and his wife was the one blbbing (as us women usually do) , plus she is the one who saw the star map and that became a very interesting part of the story, so of course th efocus would be on her for that reason. I really don't think , at least not now that color has anything to do with it. Perhaps when the pair of them first came forward, but certainly not now.
Peace.

No offense taken C.K.
I agree totally with you.
My family is a garden of color too.
It has been said that Barney asked that some of his story be kept private.
The point about "Them" taking sperm from him, being one of them to be kept private.
These days it does appear to be better than it use to be back in the "Good Old Days" of the fifties, but racism is still around, but it's only better hidden.
 
I don't understand what you're trying to say.

The quote was in the post above

Experts estimate that the rate at which species are going extinct is at least 1,000 times higher than it should be from natural factors alone.
Wildlife habitats worldwide are being destroyed, degraded, or fragmented, all of which often lead to species becoming threatened or endangered. It is critical that we protect and restore forest ecosystems – which provide habitat and support hundreds of species of flora and fauna. Establishing and protecting corridors that connect ecosystems also helps to provide wildlife with critical habitat.
As human development continues to expand into wildlife habitats, the situation can become more dangerous for wildlife and humans alike. In Florida and Louisiana, the black bear is experiencing more conflict with humans in regions that were once its natural habitat, and are now being cleared for housing and commercial developments. A similar situation is happening with tigers in Sumatra, orangutans in Malaysia, and many other species of wildlife all over the world.
A recent study estimated that if current trends continue, a shocking 1 million species will become endangered in just the next 50 years.

Turning a blind eye to this is defeatist, defeatist is ignoring the fact that mankind is becoming metaphorically morbidly obese in his global footprint, to the point where it will jeopardise his very existance, and that of the other species we share this planet with.
Now i can predict the standard answer, if we put everyone in Texas blah blah blah, but its not just about land, thats blinkered thinking.

Its also about food, water and mineral resources

Water tables are falling on every continent. Aquifer depletion is a new problem. Water tables are falling from the over-pumping of groundwater in large portions of China, India, Iran, Mexico, the Middle East, North Africa, Saudi Arabia, and the United States. India has the highest volume of annual groundwater overdraft of any nation in the world. In most parts of the country, water mining is taking place at twice the rate of natural recharge, causing aquifer water tables to drop by 3 to 10 feet per year. This enormous shift from sustainable water use to over-mining began when farmers changed from having oxen withdraw the water from a well, to using electric or diesel-driven motors.


The ensured survival of the human species is dependant on managing its growth at sustainable levels, whats absurd and defeatist is to ignore the clear and obvious stupidity of our runaway growth, and the impacts it has on the other tenants on this planet, there is nothing "romantic" about it, thats just a device to draw attention away from the practical reality and the very real consequences both to us, and the other species here of failing to manage it with a sense of balance.

Humans share the Earth with other creatures who also need water, therefore, a water shortage is also a crisis for wildlife. Of the 25-biodiversity hotspots designated by Conservation International, 10 are located in water-short regions.
The way we treat rivers reflects the way we treat each other . Aldo Leopold
The World Is Running Out of Fresh Water
Problems - Water Shortages

In China, 80 percent of the major rivers are so degraded that they no longer support fish. The Yangtze River is contaminated with 40 million tons of industrial waste and raw sewage every day, and the water in the Yellow River is so polluted that it cannot be used even for irrigation. The rainfall on the European continent is so full of toxic pesticides that much of it is too dangerous to drink

Failing to recognise and address the source of this disgrace is whats absurd and defeatist imo

Turning a blind eye to this
species are going extinct at least 1,000 times higher than it should be from natural factors alone.
Is whats absurd and defeatist

Sorry to derail your thread Posey, but as you can see its something i feel great passion for, it will be my last post regarding it. You can lead a horse to the last of the clean drinking water.........
 
The quote was in the post above



Turning a blind eye to this is defeatist, defeatist is ignoring the fact that mankind is becoming metaphorically morbidly obese in his global footprint, to the point where it will jeopardise his very existance, and that of the other species we share this planet with.
Now i can predict the standard answer, if we put everyone in Texas blah blah blah, but its not just about land, thats blinkered thinking.

Its also about food, water and mineral resources




The ensured survival of the human species is dependant on managing its growth at sustainable levels, whats absurd and defeatist is to ignore the clear and obvious stupidity of our runaway growth, and the impacts it has on the other tenants on this planet, there is nothing "romantic" about it, thats just a device to draw attention away from the practical reality and the very real consequences both to us, and the other species here of failing to manage it with a sense of balance.


Problems - Water Shortages



Failing to recognise and address the source of this disgrace is whats absurd and defeatist imo

Turning a blind eye to this
species are going extinct at least 1,000 times higher than it should be from natural factors alone.
Is whats absurd and defeatist

Sorry to derail your thread Posey, but as you can see its something i feel great passion for, it will be my last post regarding it. You can lead a horse to the last of the clean drinking water.........

Mike I do not feel you are derailing my thread, your saying things I was saying a half century ago and unfortunately are getting some of the same feed back I did back then.
The fact is that is why some of the Visitors are here.
Some of these entities I feel would rather not have to deal with humans but because the world we are destroying is their world too, or the foundation of the dimension they inhabit they have to come out and take a look to see what the hell is going on.
I am a New Yorker and have lived in tenements and projects too huge for me to ever get to know all the people in them so I like to use that as an example when I try to explain this.
If you live in a huge building you may never get to know the guy upstairs from you for he may work nights and so sleeps during the day.
You may not know the lady down stairs for she leaves earlier and comes in later than you do for she works upstate.
You may never know the old man next door for he leads a quiet life.
Or the family that lives on the opposite side of you for what ever a multitude of reasons.
You could go on for years never knowing them because your paths have not crossed, but let the guy upstairs fall asleep and leave his bathtub running, or the lady down stairs forget to turn off her coffee pot, or the old man grand kids come for a visit and start blasting their stereo, and the teen from the other apartment starts knocking holes in the wall and spray painting his logo all over the floor you live on, even your front door, believe me you will fast come to know all of the above.
This is what I feel we are facing here whether we know it or not, our universe is like a huge complex we have neighbors living all around us in this Tenement Universe and we have been letting our bathtub over flow, we've been playing our music too loud, we have been put graffiti on, and knocking holes in the walls of the building, and we have been letting our pots burn.
So now all our previous unseen neighbors are coming to bang on our door.
Smoke coming from and apartment on the first floor will bring even those from the twenty-first down to see what is going on, will it not?
In short we have become such bad tenants that the land lord Mother Earth has been sending us eviction notices,
I.E.
El Nino, the hole in the ozone layer, and wave after wave of new diseases.
Real Experiencers are having real experiences but the problem is we do not know who is it that comes.
To us in the third dimension a tree is just a tree what is it on another level of the universe?
Our Linear minds blinds us to a Quantum reality, and our linear doings effect the quantum universe in ways we can not ever see fully but are slowly, oh too slowly I fear, learning.
Human Racism against the Nonhuman Races (Species) is just as stupid as it is against humanity itself.
There has been no derailment Mike my friend, only a much needed deepening to the conversational content.
Thank you.
 
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