Overall, a disappointing show, though mostly no fault of the hosts. Gene opening the show with what one could perceive as a negative story about Coral Lorenzen was a bit tone deaf for the start of a women's round table episode and came off, ultimately, as a rather pointless anecdote. Chris ventured into some rather lengthy pontificating late in the show that bordered on some "mansplaining." Those quibbles aside, it's not surprising, though unfortunate, that Chase and Kathleen had little to say regarding any misogyny in the world of Ufology given that, apparently, neither wanted to be drawn into a more frank discussion that would have led to deeper criticisms of potential colleagues and their organization, MUFON, and therefore necessitate biting the hand that feeds. It was very disappointing and, I think, a missed opportunity to advance the cause of women in the field. Kathleen just wouldn't engage fully on the topic and was deftly political in most of her answers. Chase, however, clearly wants to live in her own bubble and ignore the reality of the challenges women face in Ufology. If the denigration and devaluing of women in Ufology is going to be successfully eliminated it will only be through open and honest discussions by, and between, both women and men. This, in my opinion, includes shining a light on the bad actors out there who behave ignorantly, unprofessionally and, in extreme cases, like psychos. I don't want to support or promote those people if I know their behavior towards women is abhorrent. The "adults in the room" should make a concerted effort to marginalize men like that. They're trapped in a prison of their own apparent upbringing and ignorance. No one will be able to change them but at the very least we don't have to support them. That kind of unacceptable behavior needs to be shut down immediately by anyone that encounters it or witnesses it.
I'm glad you had Erica on ATP and that you all addressed the lack of candor and acknowledgement of problems for women in Ufology by the other guests. I like Erica's participation on The Paracast. I think she adds an informed, professional and valuable perspective. Keep her on speed dial, Gene.
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