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Koyaanisqatsi: The Hopi Address to the United Nations -- 1976 part one


Christopher O'Brien

Back in the Saddle Aginn
Staff member
#1
[I have been asked several times recently to describe Hopi prophesy as it relates to the so-called end of this current Fourth World. There are many interpretations out there that are not particularly accurate, but the following transcript of the speech given to the UN by Thomas Banyaca is the real deal. So, for those of you who are interested in what the primordial culture in North America believes to be happening and why, here you go. The rest of you can move along--nothing to read here. ---chris]
Koyaanisqatsi:
translation: e.g., World Out of Balance, Crazy-Life, Life Disintegrating, A Way of Life
that Calls for Another Way of Living, People Working Against One Another

Presented to:
Chairman and members of the United Nations assembled
in Vancouver, B.C. Canada June 11, 1976

Gather with Us in Spiritual Unity to Ensure the Survival of Land and Life

INDEPENDENT NATION
Hopiland, Arizona

My name is [Thomas] Banyacya, of the Wolf, Fox and Coyote clan, and I am a member

of the Hopi Independent Nation. Since 1948 I have been appointed as an interpreter by
and for the hereditary Kikmongwis and traditional religious leaders of the Hopi people.
I am here to fulfill my clan duty by presenting to the United Nations and the world the
message of the hereditary Kikmongwis, traditional Hopi religious leaders, and other
Native Traditional Elders.

Today, I brought two Hopi initiated religious leaders who were authorized by
our Kikmongwis of Shungopavi and Oraibi Pueblos--the two oldest continually
inhabited villages in North America--to carry their sacred prayer feathers and
Message of Peace, and prophecies of warning for this day, as we were
instructed long ago by our ancestors.

Because we have seen world destruction before, we do not want to see it
happen again, when mankind put more emphasis on material rather than
spiritual things, when laws of nature were interfered with and ignored, and the
world was destroyed. A few humble people who adhered to the ways of the
Great Spirit were allowed to survive and became the ancestors who carried the
knowledge that is the Hopi spiritual Way. The word or name Hopi means peaceful
people. This means that any people who learn to live in peace with each other
and in harmony with nature are considered Hopi; the Hopi Way is universal.

The time has come to join in meaningful action. Once again, destruction of all
land and life is taking place and accelerating at a rapid pace. This year, 1976,
the U.S. Bicentennial is being celebrated. The question is, by whom? Our native
homeland continues to be torn apart and raped of its sacredness by the corporate
powers of the United States. We do have an alternative to this.

Mankind has a chance to change the suicidal direction of its path, do a
roundabout turn, and move in the direction of peace, harmony and respect for
land and life. The time is right now. Later will be too late. In order to do this the
Native People must return to the spiritual path in order to cure and heal our
Mother Earth. It is only through the heart, prayer, and ceremony that we can
bring this turbulence of evil everywhere to a halt.

According to many prophecies, the Day of Purification is near. This means
that human life has to be purified or punished by certain acts of the Great Spirit
due to the corruption, greed, and turning away from the Great Spirit's teachings.
The healing of this continent requires the Native Peoples, the First Inhabitants
of this land, those who were given the duty to safeguard the Great Spirit's
land and life and who want to follow His teachings and instructions.

In 1948, the Hopi Kikmongwis and religious Elders met for four days to
compare and remind each other of our ancient knowledge, most of which was kept
in their sacred kivas. These traditional Elders were 80, 90, and even 100 years old
and met in the circle, smoked their sacred pipes, and meditated. They then delivered
this ancient knowledge for the first time in public.

I feel strongly that they have a Message not only for the Hopi people and
other native brothers, but for the whole of humankind.

They told of the destruction of Tokpela, the First World, and the destruction of
the Second and Third. They talked of the present, Fourth World, from its creation;
how we came to this land, how we spread throughout the land, how to take care of it
and how the future will be if man again refuses to adhere to the spiritual balance in
harmony with nature. Everything in the prophecies has been fulfilled and I know the
Elders are speaking the truth.

I felt it is my sacred duty to relate this message at this time. Hopi and
other Native spiritual leaders are greatly concerned with the conditions of our
Mother Earth, and her children the native people who were the First People of
the western hemisphere. The traditional Elders have watched the white brothers
systematically destroy the Native people as they did the natural resources.

According to our beliefs and prophecies, if this destruction continues, man's
existence in this world will soon be ended. For this reason the First Peoples
of the Americas felt it necessary to hold a spiritual convention here in
Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada, in conjunction with the United Nations
Conference on Human Settlements. The great concern for the condition of the
world has brought us together to hold an Earth Healing Ceremony for Mother Earth,
June 10, 11 and 12 at early dawn 4:30 A.M. to dusk.

It is our hope that this Spiritual Unity conference and Healing Ceremony
brings together the First Peoples of the Americas as well as spiritual leaders of
all world faiths and religions. At our Healing Ceremonies we have been
discussing beliefs and prophecies of the First Peoples of North America to see how
they are similar and what these beliefs hold for the future of our planet.

The Hopi have one such tradition that explains the world's present situation.
The Hopi are an independent sovereign nation who have never signed a treaty
of any kind with the United States government. The Hopi people have been living
for thousands of years under their own form of self-government.

Through Hopi prophecy and belief, the religious leaders and rightful spokesmen
for the Hopi Independent Nations have been instructed by Massau'u the Great
Spirit to express this invitation to the world's peoples and all spiritual leaders
everywhere to meet with us here, now, and in Hopiland to discuss the welfare
of mankind so that Peace, Unity, and Brotherhood will become part of all men
everywhere.

We live a spiritual life in traditional Hopi form that was given to us long ago by
Massau'u. From Massau'u the Hopi and the other First Peoples of the Americas
were given special knowledge about the care of the sacred lands so as not to
disrupt the fragile harmony that holds man and nature and earth together. The
Hopi, caretakers of the earth in a spiritual way, have come to the United Nations
to help avert Global Disaster.

This is the Hopi Nation's third attempt to work through the United Nations to
notify the world of the crisis we are in. Our first attempt was after the Elders'
meeting in 1948 when we tried to present a statement to the General Assembly.
The Hopi were not allowed to talk on the floor of the Assembly, instead we were
told to submit a written statement. The elders of the Hopi Nation said no, that
according to Hopi instruction they must deliver a spontaneous spoken statement,
because to deliver a spontaneous talk is to give the words life and to speak from
the heart. It is ultimately the Hopi Way.

The Secretary-General's office of the United Nations refused this request to
hear the Hopi Elders in their own traditional way. So acting according to Hopi
beliefs, the Elders decided to wait four days to see if the people of the glass
house, the House of Mica, the United Nations, would change their position and
hear the Hopi speak. After four days of waiting the Hopis returned to the glass
house only to learn that the world organization still would not listen. As a
result the Hopi traveled to the capital of the Iroquois Nation at Onandaga where
they all met together. The first attempt to fulfill the sacred duty to inform
the world of the End-Time crisis it was in, had been blocked.

The second effort to contact the World's Peoples was once again through the
United Nations when the Temple of Understanding held a convention of the "five
great" religions of the world in New York City on October 20, 1975. This
organization invited the First Peoples of the United States to speak at the
session. During this conference the Hopi Nation presented a statement concerning
the role of western religions among the First Peoples.

The Hopis know that every nation and people have their own religion, and all
these religions are equally good. Hopi and all other Native First People in this
western hemisphere have their own spiritual beliefs and systems. Hopis believe
it is important for peoples to help other peoples but one must show respect
for other peoples and their religion and spiritual beliefs.

According to the Hopi it is absolutely necessary to turn the original idea of
missionizing around. For example, if a man is sick one should not just pray
for him or try to change his religion or belief system. The missionary should
help the sick man, take the ill man some water, feed him, clothe him, help the
man to live. He needs to be cured of his illness, not of his religion or spiritual
beliefs. Hopis are not against other religions or beliefs; they are opposed
to those who try to destroy a people or a nation in the name of a religion.

This was part of the message the Hopi Nation presented to the Temple of
Understanding conference. At the close of the conference the participants
prepared a statement to be presented to the United Nations. It did not recognize
the traditional religion of our people nor did it represent the view of the Hopi
Nation or of the other First Peoples of the United States. Instead, what the
statement of the Temple of Understanding did was to uphold and reaffirm their faith
in the political, economic, and social systems of the western world.

For example, the Temple of Understanding conference participants state that
"education," in the western tradition, breaks down false barriers by introducing
ideas from outside one's religious tradition. Education, to the participants,
allows for the development of ways to understand other religious traditions.
These ideas are ironic considering the fact that western education in the
Americas is not to liberate the First Peoples of this land but to oppress us and
force us to separate from our spiritual systems, cultures, and homelands.

This western educational system imposes different ideas, beliefs and ways of
doing things on the First Peoples of the Americas, supposedly to break down
barriers; to the contrary, it has constructed barriers. Because this final
statement in 1975 did not represent the views and beliefs of the First Peoples
and failed to recognize the spiritual religion of the Hopi and the other First
Nations, we withdrew our support of the statement and tried to present a
statement of our own to the United Nations.

Both the United Nations and the Temple of Understanding conference
refused to support the Hopi effort to gain recognition as a world spiritual
religion; the United Nations does not listen to the First Peoples of this land.
The second attempt to fulfill the sacred duty of warning the world through
the United Nations had failed as prophesied by the Hopi spiritual leaders.

This message today is our third and perhaps final attempt to inform the world
of the present dangerous status of man's existence on Mother Earth. We are not
asking the United Nations for help in a material way.

We are, according to Hopi prophecy, simply trying to inform the world of what
is going to happen if the destruction of Mother Earth and her Original Peoples
continues as is known by our religious Elders. We do not come before the
United Nations in order to join it. We come to fulfill our Hopi sacred mission and
ancient prophecy in order to find one, two or three nations who should
recognize their sacred duty to stop the destruction of the First Peoples' land
and life throughout the western hemisphere.


End of Part One
 

Christopher O'Brien

Back in the Saddle Aginn
Staff member
#2
Part Two


We Hopi know that there are one, two or three nations here in the U.N.
that could hear our message and understand it so that they can fulfill
their sacred duty in order that land and life not be totally destroyed
as before. If destruction is not prevented you must understand that the
Hopi have done their part and fulfilled their mission; whatever results from your
failure to fulfill your sacred responsibilities to stop all this destruction,
genocide, harassment, imprisonment, oppression and lack of respect for Native
Brothers, will be of your own doing. We, the First Peoples of the western
hemisphere, have carried out our sacred duty by bringing this spiritual message of
Warning and hope for the future to your attention.

Through Hopi prophecy and spiritual instruction, the Elders know that greed,
pollution and lack of understanding of nature are about to destroy Mother Earth.
The Hopi and all Native Brothers have continually struggled in their existence to
maintain harmony with the Earth and with the universe. To the Hopi, land is
sacred; if the land is abused, the sacredness of Hopi life will disappear
and all other life as well. The sacredness of our land is the foundation of Hopi
and all life, the foundation of the universal Hopi Way.

Land was here long before any human being set foot upon this Earth. Somewhere
the human race began and we came to this land after asking permission from
Massau'u, the Great Spirit. After obtaining His permission we came and settled with

Him on this land. He showed us the continent. He gave us Sacred Stone Tablets,
religious instructions, warnings and prophecies, and all land and life was placed in
the care of the Kikmongwis and religious leaders.

He marked out the boundaries for each group on the continent, after which
each group was given an individualized life plan with certain spiritual and
religious beliefs--the way to worship, to live, the food to eat, the languages to
speak, etc. Massau'u gave each group their way. He then gave his final instructions:

live and never lose faith in or turn away from your life pattern. This is one of the
main reasons for our ceremony here this week. The peoples of the world are
turning away from their life plan. Therefore, it is the responsibility of the Hopi to
bring out these facts so that peoples everywhere will remember their instructions,
think about them, and live up to them.

In ancient times it was prophesied by our forefathers that this land would be
occupied by the Original Peoples, who have received permission from the Great
Spirit, Massau'u; then from another land a white brother would come, supposedly
to help his brothers who are here taking care of the land and life in a spiritual Way
with prayer, ceremonies and humility. The whites would come either with a strong
faith and righteous religion which Massau'u (Messiah) had given them, or they would

come after they had abandoned the great life plan and fallen to a faith of their own
personal ideas which they invented before coming here.

It was known that the white man is an intelligent person, an inventor of many
words and material things, a man who knows how to influence people because of
his sweet way of talking. He would use many of his inventions on us when he
came. The white brother would do many things that will be good for his Native
Brother. But when his sole purpose becomes getting control of this land and
he lives only for his own self-glory, then we must not listen to his sweet tongue

but watch his deeds. If he mistreats us, lies, and starts to force our people off their
lands, we must wait for our True White Brother who has one of the sacred stone
tablets from the Great Spirit.

The traditional Hopi have not listened to this first white brother. Traditional Hopi
have been faithful to the instructions of the Great Spirit, Massau'u, up to this time.
We have followed our life plan. We are still carrying on our sacred rituals and
ceremonies--we are still living in accordance with the pattern of life Massu'u
has given us. We have not lost our faith in the Great Spirit. He has given to us
many prophecies. He told us the white brother would come and be a very intelligent
man, bringing to us many things he would invent.

One invention that our forefathers spoke of was a machine, or object, that
would move on the land with animals pulling it--the wagon. Our forefathers
also talked of a machine which would afterwards move with nothing pulling it--
when we saw the automobile, we understood. Then they said that the land would
be cut up and that there would be many roads. Today we see pavement all over
the land. Later there would even be roads in the sky where people will travel.
Now we see airplanes. It was said by Massau'u that if and when a Gourd of
Ashes is dropped upon the earth, that most men will die and that the End of the
materialistic way of life (Koyaanisqatsi) is near at hand. We understand this as the
dropping of atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. We do not want to see this
happen again, in the United States or any place on our Earth Mother. Instead we
should now turn all this energy for peaceful uses, not for war.

Today almost all the prophecies have come to pass. Great roads like rivers
pass across the landscape; man talks to man through the cobwebs of telephone
lines; man travels along the roads in the sky in his airplanes; two great Wars
have been waged by those bearing the swastika and sun symbol; as prophesied by
our Elders, man is tampering with the moon and wants to go to the stars.

Hopi and other Native Brothers were warned no man should bring anything down
to Earth from the moon. It would imbalance natural and universal laws and create
more severe earthquakes, floods, hurricanes, hail storms, season changes and

famines. This is now happening. Most men have strayed from their life plan shown
to them by Massau'u. These signs tell us we are nearing the End of our life patterns.
We are coming to the time of the Purifiers, the high kachinas commissioned by the
Great Spirit to stop man's destruction of self and nature. As the Bible says, "The time
come..to destroy those destroying the Earth."

Those of us of the Hopi Nation who have followed the path of the Great Spirit
without compromise, have a message which we are committed, through our
prophecy, to convey to you.

The white brother up to the present time, through his insensitivity to the
way of Nature, has desecrated the face of Mother Earth. The white brother's
advanced technological capacity has occurred as a result of his lack of regard for
the spiritual path and for the way of all living things. The white brother's
desire for material possessions and power has blinded him to the pain he has
caused Mother Earth by his quest for what he calls natural resources. And the
path of Massau'u has become difficult to see by almost all men, even by Native
First People who have been forced into white brother's educational systems and
now have chosen instead to follow the path of the white brother.

Today the sacred lands where the Hopi live are being desecrated by men who
seek coal and water from our soil that will create more power for the white
brother's cities. Mining will destroy our Hopi and other people with smog, poison
air, lack of water, and pollution of water and land. One example is sacred
Hopi land of the "Four Corners Area" where Arizona, New Mexico, Colorado
and Utah meet. This area Hopis call Tukunavi and it is the heart of our Mother
Earth, a shrine and sacred place for the Hopi and other Pueblos for many
thousands of years.

The desecration of our spiritual center must not be allowed to continue, for
if it does, Mother Nature will react in such a way that almost all men will
suffer the end of life as they now know it. All we ask is that this place be
respected and protected by all nations, who have sacred duty and responsibility.
Every measure must be taken to preserve this spiritual center, the Four Corners.

Massau'u said not to take from the Earth for destructive purposes and not to
destroy living things indiscriminately or without prayer. He further stated that
man was to live in harmony and maintain a good clean land for all children
to come and take care of land and life for the Great Spirit. The United States
system has gone against these religious instructions and now almost destroyed
all our land and Way of life--that life being our religion. All Hopi people and other
First Peoples are standing on this religious principle.

This healing ceremony and unity gathering here in Vancouver endeavors to
teach the whole world's people and reawaken the spiritual nature of the
First Peoples throughout the world, providing a cure for our Mother Earth.
The U.S. Government and United Nations leaders can never bring about peace,
harmony and happy life in the future unless and until all forms of destruction of
land and Native people in this land are stopped immediately.

Not only the Hopi have struggled to care for and maintain the Earth and their
Way of life, but all the First Peoples of the Americas have struggled to maintain

themselves in the world today. The present oppressive governments in the
Americas continue to make the existence of the First Peoples a difficult struggle
for life.

We chose a meeting here to have a world religious and spiritual gathering
or Jo-vow-ma. We wanted to call together all religious and spiritual peoples
of the world so we could discuss the situation of our Mother the Earth. The
reason we, the First Peoples of the Americas, brought about this meeting was
to show the world that we want to lead a Healing Ceremony for Mother Earth and
stop genocide in our homeland.

We have to lead this ceremony because it is our land and our home. We know
and love it as no one else can. All peoples can participate in this ceremony but
only we can lead it. Everybody has their own way to cure and heal. If we were
in another land we would use another way; since we are here now our Way is
required for the ceremony.

We the Hopi People have watched man destroy the earth and its air. Our white
brother has made it harder and harder for the Hopi to care for and maintain the
Earth through traditional ways and spiritual life. Now, according to prophecy and
directions from Massau'u, it is time for the Hopi to inform the world's peoples of
Mother Earth's dire situation so that further devastations can be prevented.
The United States and United Nations should understand that they cannot bring
about peace and harmony or the good life in the world if they do not correct the
wrong-doings going on within the American continents.

The United Nations will never be able to reach its goals, to bring about
peace and harmony among all people, or create it in the future if it does not
support the Hopi and other First Peoples of this land in their struggle for
justice, recognition and respect. The Hopi want to bring about the uniting

of all world religions; therefore the Hopi traditional Elders invite the world
spiritual leaders to gather with them in Hopiland as soon as possible. We are
waiting for you.

To this point in time our warnings have not been heeded by the nations of the
world. This might be the last chance. If our words are not taken seriously or are
not heeded, only destruction will follow. We have done all the Hopi can do to
notify the world's peoples. If the people refuse to take action the Hopi prophecy
of total destruction of all mankind will be fulfilled. This is known by the Hopi
Kikmongwis and religious leaders who wait patiently in their sacred kivas in
Hopiland, with Sacred Stone Tablets and spiritual instructions to receive
all understanding people in search of survival.

The Hopi know that man will harness solar, wind, and natural energies, but if
technology continues to be misused the energy will burn the world with fire.
There must be free use of technological power. Man must learn to serve man
with his gift of innovation and share freely from now on, give to all people, not
buy and sell. We must bring back the level of life where land is free, water is
free, no boundaries, and freedom of spiritual understanding.

If the United Nations cannot prevent the destruction of mankind and Mother
Nature by political means, they should now support a meeting of the world
spiritual leaders with the Hopi Nation. All nations who come to our homeland
should recognize our spiritual foundation and support the establishment of a
Spiritual Center for all mankind.

Such a spiritual center with a focus on our Mother Earth and the preservation
of natural ecosystems could be set up, where Native People can share ancient
wisdom and truths with all Peoples of our Spaceship Earth.
 

Christopher O'Brien

Back in the Saddle Aginn
Staff member
#3
"The Hopi know that man will harness solar, wind, and natural energies,
but if technology continues to be misused the energy will burn the world with fire.
There must be free use of technological power. Man must learn to serve man
with his gift of innovation and share freely from now on, give to all people, not
buy and sell. We must bring back the level of life where land is free, water is
free, no boundaries, and freedom of spiritual understanding.
Thanks for the thanks, but I'm disappointed in the big silence. We are all custodians of this land. Indigenous people understand this responsibility for it's in their genes and a part of their very nature and we
would all be best advised to take heed of their observations, suggestions and warnings. For those of you that took the time, thanks for reading this important address to the UN and for everyone else ...meh... --chris
 

BrihonRutiBhingi

Paranormal Novice
#6
Thanks for the thanks, but I'm disappointed in the big silence. We are all custodians of this land. Indigenous people understand this responsibility for it's in their genes and a part of their very nature and we
would all be best advised to take heed of their observations, suggestions and warnings. For those of you that took the time, thanks for reading this important address to the UN and for everyone else ...meh... --chris
As-salamu alaykum/Peace be with you...All.......'disappointed in the big silence' allow me to help out I cant seem to STFU sometimes ...its actually quite annoying for me and others. Jah is show me in like Dr WHo and stuff just keep them talking is gwan come but be late or something just distract them. I mean Jah/Jesus/holy spirit whatever ....not dr who...tho thats like tardis is symbolic of ark of the coveant big time. Apologies I swear a lot sometimes also Im trying tone it down I know some ppl find it offensive esp christians who dont want follow Jesus as I often point out immortal technique also says MFah and other swears in his songs and like his song sign of the times say his legions is led by spirit of Haile Selaisse I.

Do hopi know of HIM Jah Rastafari how mostly jamaicans is say but is others recogise HIM return from East Massai cud it be east africa ET-HOPI_A i sometimes spell differently.....also 33 degree armharic/ethiopian fidel is also called hape. vowels are interchangable so can also say hopi. I think this english queen could be one of these 3 leaders. There is online stuff youse can reseach she visited HIM in Ethiopia actually got videos of her looking happy and not like some miserable oppressor. This video is a reply to one the fake cointelpro pharisee or whatever that jokeless clown bully boy fascist teacher is took down the one I replied too. You can maybe read between the lines here and please pray for the safety of the real Wendim Yardon. <iframe width="560" height="315" src="//RASTAFARI SABBATICAL teacher is a FAKE heres proof EWN ethiopia world net - YouTube" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

If InI had to hazzard a random guess I think maybe Obama and Iran cant mind his name now cud be the others maybe they been cloned too?) is videos on Ethiopia World NET which is by the same person about obama is a type of joseph and a twin or something can flip . also iran has nuclear energy facilites and is not seem be a oppressive fake muslim country saying saudi arabia goverment is muslim follows Our Beloved Prophet is like saying the usa 'govt' eg illegal authorites.....is christian and follows Jesus when clearly they messing with who Jesus is for big time.

About ten seconds in maybe can see what looks like who i see TheGroxt1 channel on youtbe say is image of quezecoytal a 'terrorist clown' says the 'teacher' mark who is looking for Jesus.....he doesnt say it but to mi mind at least probalby in the way king herod was looking for Jesus eg not to follow HIm. is when im asking oens pray i get a new name. Im not like quezecoytal its a type of christ or something tho is my twin flame is do with the 144,000s or else the 3 left behind in the quran. Thanks for sharing everyone may Jah Light guide us all to unity I also got videos up warning the oppressors they aint got antidotes like they think and this morgellons nasa ark of the covenant chemtraills link see above top secret sight for info on that and scientific spiritual type proofs.....morge eli ones......old timers reserecting like in quran luMUria....on 23/12/2012 when i look in da mirror i see a face like ones in avatuer film was looking back at me from inside me face. Looks like maybe this NASA gig its tagged by nasa I did tell the english 'govt/illegal autorities SS social security when i signed on for mi unemployement/sickness benefit for mental illness i was direGNOSISed paranoid schitzophrenic and stuff before since Jah got me off all the cia sourced street drugs the other side of the cia coin Big Pharma for profit and cia mkultra operation bluebird type experiments they sectioned me a few times force injected me with dangerous drugs tho I n I is tell them i aint down with your pHARMacutical witchcraft drugs im a shaman i only got sectioned cos Jah want me testify and do some soul retrival missions reverse some da curses psalms 109.28 let them curse but bless thou when they arise let them be ashamed but let thy servant rejoice. he may not actually be evil the psychiatrist psychic trickster cud just be mentally ill like i was untl i start remember GOd is real so I just forgave told them I got GOd to heal me I got holy ganja asked why they dont section poliiticans who say worse stuff than me and lot bigger audience than youtube and then actualy go and commit acts of terrorism proven 911 77 Nicaragua Kenya and non stop financial terroirsm tru IMF/banking and that GOd is heal me of all mi diseases i have holy ganga who despiste being made illegal by a government that by their own definetion is illegal shes a holy herb marijuna for healing of the nations and i have a real nurse hes a cat but hes telepathic and hes mi black panther totem. same as when i tell him i part alien and can he help me contact area 51 get mi spaceship back, he just accuses me of making stuff up being mad and possessed by djinns. Same stuff they said about Muhammad but it wasnt true, its true sometimes in mi case like i agreed with him but at least i dont pretend im a doctor cos i got some degrees from a univiersity like bob marley warn us builidng church and university trying brainwash educate us....and i dont get gangsters and thugs or police as they are also known to kidnap people of the street force inject them with dangeours drugs when they no threat to themselves or others. I leave it at that mi suPURRior officer in kuluminati ranks, allegedly we kuluminati we fighting a memory war like asian dub foundaiton tune and lots nasa space cadets have memory loss or false memory syndrome. I made requests that they section some of the 'uk govt' under the mental health act they clearly are a danger ot others and once people wake up they a danger to themselves but none of these psychiatrists or social workers seem be interested in a more viable way to help stem the tide of mental illness. its like that specials aka song the lunaticks have taken over the asylum. whatever over and out Bageera the cat is sayings its time for mi human nap i gotta get strengtthend mi bed of lanughisng like psalms. ONeLove.
 

BrihonRutiBhingi

Paranormal Novice
#7
P.S couple more vids i got a blog too links on youtbe interesting photos on mi facebok also of chemtrails inshape of crosses right outside mi window when angel orion from heavenly jamaica visits hes in human form but i seen him in mi dreams also he says same about me .....
Jah Bless.
 

BrihonRutiBhingi

Paranormal Novice
#9
Or Atlantis (Earth).
I dont know much about atlantis Im maybe more to do with Lumeria......i see is some legends about noongars in oz dat one of the last times this happen Enki i think hes the savoiur type for the annunarki or something mi grandchild SOphora told me a story about him once that him and a princess and a witch was bound up or something and it was also do with the milky way....i read thats do with pistis sophia prayer also on eyeofsiloam is similar kind of rituals or whatever shaman initiations im undergoing......I never hear of Enki i was surprised sop knew she was only 6 her name is similar what lost book of enki called where the annunarki kept the star chariots and is also said to be Iman Mahdis mother name, is also do with crystals in some type marijuna thingy and maybe do with crystal skulls prophecy she can see some of the operation bluebeam and stuff sometimes, she also told me once - we was walk back from libary she said something about she cud get to africa in areal quick time i cant remember but was like seconds and minutes she say she dont like it that kids is starving there so much, she put her hand up in some kind 'gang sign' i see later in a book about HIM, her other side of the fam her grandfather is met HIM when live in Mali a while....dont think he recognised him but cant say for sure.......she also told me a next time she say nanny do you know why your crazy lol i said no sop why......something about i was a queen in heaven but fell but allah knows i had a tough life in parts and i may explode soon but the next life be better....qui-ran running the querys up tru NASA>....satan is helping us i think too some of us is handed into satans hand mind daughter of ABraham 18 years in bible....the accuser....AC user.....that groxt keeps moaning about satan grassing him up i not surprised man hes trying steal the eternal bodies/vessels is for the saints and to help pay back the native peoples who stuck with Jah so much tru hard times not for him to steal and his plans to escape justice and blow up the world behind him.....lot of these so called christians stil on the terrorist kick like cromwell invading ireland in name of Jesus killing the real foallowers of the Black Christ and Mary magdaelene burning us as witches.....kill us speak our own language wear the green sham.rock on our hearts...whatever man i wear mi heart on mi sleeve now and all over da place cuculhin rearrange mi body parts ......noongars went underground to LuMUria ok then later some come back up this side as wodullahs or whatever pale/white skin.......cud be do with the druids also and stonehenge theres a older version in oz i had a wierd experience stonehenge do with the moon, lot this is do with time travel......also first dream i ever wrote down its on mi channel somewhere but off top mi head something like this...was in some type post acolyptic future either here or a next planet, was in some type housing the girl who claims be mi daughter and Jah no longer want me in cotnact with is there so was bageera maybe some others, i met some ppl spiritual warriors and shaman i didnt even know waht that meant at the time i know a little bit more now than then Praise Jah......so i was gonna go back with them help them that girl is saying i cant i dont know if she thought she da boss of me or something....then says i can go but not to go down below.....i think i did though somewhere they cant hear whats going on......then was like white feathers coming down in the dream then later is happening n this world also. immortal technique also has a song says something about about to explode like nasa computer chips.....whatever......
this is the young lady in question singing the nofx song die for the government sorry she says a swear word in the song its her 'dads' video channel she probalby gwan not be with them soon if she aint already been moved and htey got a clone cos shes a believer not a faker, shes being ironci obviously she dont mean die for these govts maybe for HIM she meant. I know ALlah(SWT) got her back....she also told me once before this she was in heaven and looked down choose that girl for her mother.......i said did u have permision from ala she said yes. From lot syncronicitys i soemtimes get the idea that girl is trying switch places with me about something else so cud be connected but only ALa wud know. Sorry to write so much I dont mean be rude or inappropriate, hopefully holy spirit will just guide ones eyes to skim to any relevant parts or you all speed readers or can just skip it.....:)
 

BrihonRutiBhingi

Paranormal Novice
#10
this something else i seen made me think we shud be praying for obama more too i put lots comments and stuff up but i cant see it there now unless it was the same video uploaded on a next channel. theres a video groxt has also cud be relevant i try find it a next time.....
 

BrihonRutiBhingi

Paranormal Novice
#11
TheGrotz1 joking mentally ill or evil illuminati or wtf | returnofdaking
where the Bride is i thihnk is do with mary magdaleene im with her and other girls remotely i think thats why u can hear the children crying and banshees howl background mi videos

wish i knew how flip the script like that grotz does yeah i see him try turn quezecoytal into a racist and kukulin change spelling into some kkk thing aint happening muthauckha so if anyone reading comments is start from the bottom howi wrote in his video copy and paste comes out backwards

MadderHat Saorise 1 second ago
Shalom so when u say obama is going turn into satan do u mean in a good way like how i mentioned before in quran says end of the day satan turns around is working for Jah are u sure this clown rides on hate is that u just projecting u hatred and fear of clowns maybe is a ha et an extra terrestrial runs on ha ha jokes….cudnt it be like the joker in batman i saw your video about the dark knight rising i thought he was cool reminded me of mi angel jamaican orion do u think im a sirus dog star in human form and bageera mi miteY angelic cat is actually a man in cat form…wen he first told me telepathically he used be a man lived in america wrote book called the invisible man so i guess was called ralph ellison then i thought he was making it up or i was mad or was cia mind control but some of the stuff he does he must be with Jah i read book fluke by james herbert once a dog who was a man like spirit got mix up and its in the tibetan book of the dead and other scriptures we can also live as animals…interesting how Jah is also call lion of judah do u think thats mostly symbolic or somekindo f shapeshifitng element involved…I know Allah is Lord of Sirius and they got some type of cat people there i hear cud be somewhat allergorical only ALlah or whoever u call the SOurce knows…why dont u ever menton mary magdalene i hope u aint trying take her place Jah rastafari aint down with no batty bhoy shite . mi chemtrials signs changed stead of crosses i got some triange thing cud be do how u say u on the 33 degree parrallell like i mentioned at the time i not sure if that some kind of hidden in plain site confession u some kind of illuminati or u just deceived about stuff same as us all but whatever i just mention it in case its useful is photo of it and hte crosses on mi facebook page open to all to see no need add me link is on mi videos i not sure how u think Jesus be take u on a rapture when u dont mention He was black or His twin flame wife and hate on islam in and other stuff i no longer down with this black illluminati ting either fuck them and the whit e supremacist kkk i know i must lookeed ridiculous only pale face caught up in wrong type of black supremamcy i was look for ones like black prophets came help followers of Christ in ireland against evil witch illuminati or cromwell christians they was call them selves and torture burn kill us as witches same as did try to Abraham shaman but Allah say fire be cool u said on video b4 sirus dog star was put in enemy hands. i like warn you too i just remembered muthafuckah i saw your disgusting sick hatefu lcomment on a mary magdalene video say if Jesus had gone with her then our father well mi father cos i recognise Abba Keduse u must have a next father if u say these lies how u say Father wud not be ok with Jesus get with Mary is bullshit they from the same planet was meant link up here and Judas and Thomas was also from same planet …how come we is made in image of God and told to go forth and multipy…what about all the like children relations of mary and jesus its in one of tecs song they had kids as well as other stuff seing as his legions is actually led by spirit of Haile Selaisse I lion of judah and hes honest and praises up Jah in a right way always spitting bars about spiritual things some of his stuff is a bit raw i agree but is a million times better than these so called angels of light who is really evil decievers pretend their shit dont stink. i suggest u repent seek the truth and get these demons out your head if thats what confusing you or if its you just making shit up then prepare face wraft of Jah when he strikes no matter how illuminati try mark ppl up for the fire shouldnt be there that Jah plan u aint deceiving ALlah thats in general to any cia or ill umin nut job reading but i say i got demons on me i still dont go around telling blatant lies about God like quran says do they not reason..i heard Judas was double agent working for Jesus who wanted be put in hands of enemies for reasons i cant exacgly fathom but i can see is some sense in it i always wonder why after He told the disciple he loved which wud been mary magdalene i assume or john i believe was also her identity that he was gonna be betrayed then let them know was |Judas then say Judas wat u do go do it quick like must know wud be hard for Judas didnt want him loose his bottle like get scared …u want a pale christ type i think is this quezecoytal who red elk means when say pale christ i used think that sounded dodgy like do with this anti christ white jesus fake image of romans oppressors son or something but i had change of heart i read schofield study notes bible is like types of \|Christ follow in the masters footsteps so can be like mini saviours and revolutionarys carring the cross dying and reserecting with Messiah but i wud thought Q be saying same thing Black CHrist is the boss cos civilisation start there but for all colour n places tribes. good luck maybe im updating mi view that america was first zion and isrealites . also Im thinking is likely is Jesus comes back red. u know how in quran Jesus is called Issa vowels interchange is Isis so i thought is that is gonna come more as MARY or the black madonna, thats already happening im one the miriam types and im carrying the names of Lefaka Sedek i cant be only one....so Issa or Essa is also sounds like Essah or something, i hear some of these racist hateful black hebew isrealtes who dont really seem like Jesus either just take His name in vain slag essah off hes a warrior and hes red. ...i got a fb note about it depends on direciton i try post it here later too. OneLove.
 

trainedobserver

Paranormally Disenchanted
#13
You cant own land, it owns you
The greater truth may be that we are the land. Our disconnection from the Earth is only a mental and philosophical one. We are cells of the greater system to which we belong, the good Earth. The horrors we experience as a civilization are caused by our long disassociation from the land and natural law. I believe the key reasons for this are rooted in the religious texts and teachings that tell the gargantuan lie that mankind has been given dominion over the Earth and the creatures living therein. This is a foundational lie found in the first book of the Bible! The Earth is not human centric. Not by a long shot. We are just a part of the mix, and looking at our sorted history, it is obvious we haven't been mixing well. I feel that our Western philosophical position of being above the system, of knowing better than the ancient natural wisdom manifest in Earth's geological, biological, and evolutionary processes, (aka "nature is flawed, we can make it better"), make us a blight upon the Earth and one that may be soon expelled from the system. When that happens, it is called extinction.

The missionaries should have cast their crosses and holy books filled with lies at the feet of the indigenous people living in harmony with the land. Instead, they saddled them with the guilt, lies, and horrors of the "dominion over the Earth" fantasy.

They created the self-fulfilling prophecy: "There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth."
 

BrihonRutiBhingi

Paranormal Novice
#14
The greater truth may be that we are the land. Our disconnection from the Earth is only a mental and philosophical one. We are cells of the greater system to which we belong, the good Earth. The horrors we experience as a civilization are caused by our long disassociation from the land and natural law. I believe the key reasons for this are rooted in the religious texts and teachings that tell the gargantuan lie that mankind has been given dominion over the Earth and the creatures living therein. This is a foundational lie found in the first book of the Bible! The Earth is not human centric. Not by a long shot. We are just a part of the mix, and looking at our sorted history, it is obvious we haven't been mixing well. I feel that our Western philosophical position of being above the system, of knowing better than the ancient natural wisdom manifest in Earth's geological, biological, and evolutionary processes, (aka "nature is flawed, we can make it better"), make us a blight upon the Earth and one that may be soon expelled from the system. When that happens, it is called extinction.

The missionaries should have cast their crosses and holy books filled with lies at the feet of the indigenous people living in harmony with the land. Instead, they saddled them with the guilt, lies, and horrors of the "dominion over the Earth" fantasy.

They created the self-fulfilling prophecy: "There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth."
Yeah, agreed, well mostly. I believe how you say cant own land even before I knew Jesus was real man is how noongars/oz natives say it same as hopi, loads mi mates was dem in oz ok i actually met ppl been in these MFing christians missionaries nasty tings.....also I was pretty much anarcho-socialist politics so is how Proudhon said man all property is theft. LOL unless its owned by Igzi-Abher Jah name for Landlord....seen......I know when Jesus first start raise me I start see trees auras and stuff djinn/elemental spirits of nature.....compared to our tribulations man the Mother Earth is suffer much, capitalists and rich fake ass religions ripping the gold n minerals she need to make a profit they hate on her also cos they are a bunch of sexist haters. I get idea this J was added language later before is Y...Yahshua/YaHaShuWa HaMoiSiach......holy spirit guide me is ok say Jesus also they want call on HIm he gwan use take their stuff over real soon anyway........Y is do with the pentagram by way of the yew tree in which is found pentagram, symbol of upright womanhood if right way like Ghana flag, for example, flip it spells like baphomet or something.....see how these govt is call their war office they make all their big terroirst plans in something like pentagram office.....KALI is coming for them soon way I feeling it but only Jah Jah knows for sure......is all coming togheter under Messiah and Mary M and spirit rising in us da land and animals also....is more like Lord of the RIngs or Narnia then how lot of these christians seem think it is. I agree how Ghandi say on that a lot. this morgellons/sirius star seed type issues also prove that its something about it in quran I think saying is do with Jesus and a sign for the Hour. Ya SOS.......thats why we taking the HAARP satellites over alaska ala.ska......is used for some remote torture and stuff now, in the quran the undercovers in the illuminati rejoice wehn that happens know we getting closer to OUr Lord.....Yashua is raise the dead partly with WOrd SOund Power sacred names/magi prayer spells wahtever so thats something to pray on also......
this is the book, other videos up also trying explain how I get idea King Selassie is let them have it to destory themselves they seem think they can use it to have slaves and shit and overpower me and others when Jah is come set captives free. lucky i thought it was sounding dodgy as F**K more the stunt some of these so called white missionaries is often up too, charity smallpox blankets etc is just tip of the iceberg...than what an 'elect rastafari' shud be up too....I was deceived by his witchcraft spells tho mi heart wasnt rite Jah let me get deceived I thought he really had authority so when I read it i thought must mean i had be his slave. If he got me in slavery somewhere I probalby using da anarchist cook book and poisioning the hater........is also may be connected when im out and about i see the trees and that moving more like i see hopi plants going tho nowehre near as much......when i think that story of Jospeh/Yusaf dream about planets and stuff bowing down I take it mean like in a dance, sing a new song of Moses/Musa/Muse...music......vibration.....is true how you say about this - I feel that our Western philosophical position of being above the system, of knowing better than the ancient natural wisdom manifest in Earth's geological, biological, and evolutionary processes, (aka "nature is flawed, we can make it better"), make us a blight upon the Earth and one that may be soon expelled from the system. When that happens, it is called extinction. I dont think/feel that way myself personally for some reason since I was young I was vaguely aware that this so called science is like basic compared to what the ancient kingdoms of Timbucktoo Mali Ethiopia etc etc knew and they didnt usally twist it to like raping the Earth MOther and stuff. at same time if you read the art of dreaming by carlos castenda its not the only thing I read we as mexican shaman done some bad stuff too. Is good reasons for it sometimes like this life is a test as the scriptures say , also if we eternal beings a lot of it is experiencing duality maybe....I try find hopi thing i read about it one day to post link.......
some these wrong type witchdoctors are right in it with the cia also sometimes too or alone....MI real twin is coming man hes with Yashua Im his aid then as in assistant i aint here cure any haters form aids i aint like proper albino but I got some that dna too probablywhatever i made it for the albino lass these sick psychos was messing with. dont see no except for albinos clause in sura 7.188

also for places need rain for crops....

I think if we go back in history far enuf it cud be turn and turn about maybe whateber I myself turned into a black supreamcist for a while tho im pale skinned i thought is what Jesus wanted then I start remember and about HIM UN speech until da colour of mans skin be no more signifigance than colour of his eyes be war....as we can see by tribal and ethnic confilict in Africa continent still, obviosly I aint stupid I got no doubt the CIA etc is hyping loads of it up and stuff but quran says is better to forgive if only they know, and that when it kicks off and we get dragged to the fire and we say give the oens who led us astray twice as much Allah(SWT) say your all doing double. Way im figuring it they made most of this King James bible version out of african native american hell probalby even irish stuff and its like spelled up witchcraft no matter how much you tell these dumb ass christians following the Word of GOd is not just scripture and certainlaly wouldnt be one book that has 18 MISSING YEARS of Jesus, documented elsewhere but they too scared read any other book making their bible into an idol god. they gwan get caught up in their stuff soon enuf when Messiah reutrns I guess lots of these wants want say Jesus this Jesus that instead of trying follow Jesus for real cud be in a lot of trouble so im just trying remember there but for the grace of god man....Jah got it all set up its just a matter of time probalbyholding the time so more can come repetence quran says clearly call for Justice and Mercy so lets do that and lets these ones play the judgement game call down wraft on themsleves......NICK CAVE & THE BAD SEEDS - The Mercy Seat (original, lyrics on screen, 1988) - YouTube 0.42 secs in like it says man - and in a way Im yearning to be done with all this measuring of truth, an eye for an eye a tooth for a tooth......next ting lot these religious ppl slip up on dont listen to the gospell go.spell of music Jesus of the Moon thats a good song by Nick also reminds me the book the moon is a harsh mistress when a computer called mike wakes up and starts helping the revoltionary cause.......:)
 

Jimi H.

Paranormal Adept
#16
Getting back to topic:

Like others, I've been extremely inspired by the movie Koyaanisqatsi, and have naturally sought out its sources, the Hopi prophesy.

The prophesies are disturbing but I don't really trust that they were not touched up/adjusted in relation to what the Hopi Nation saw happening with the land at the time.
I haven't found earlier written examples of it, so it's unclear if we got the 'original' version. If earlier written examples existed from, say, 1800, that would be very intriguing! Does anyone know of earlier printed versions?

By 1970, the first Earth Day was organized, some say it was in response to the heavily polluted Potomac River which self-ignited and became a river of fire. So, at least some people could see the writing on the wall at the time, and the Hopi speech helped the environmental movement, and gave an insight into a traditional view of humanity as part of nature, both in a practical and spiritual sense. I wonder if it didn't influence someone like James Lovelock, and his notion of Earth as a living whole?
Regardless if it was truly prophetic in the Mystical sense, or not, the speech was clearly an important warning from outside industrial society, and it was very inspirational.

I imagine that people saw the movie inspired by the prophesy? It is a must see.

 
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trainedobserver

Paranormally Disenchanted
#17
Simon Jester says Hi ;)
Oh boy! Why didn't this fall into place for me earlier? Although I've read a lot of Heinlein I think I must have missed The Moon is a Harsh Mistress or I've managed to kill off those brain cells. You make a lot more sense to me now. Nyuk, nyuk.

B,
No disrespect meant, but it has been my experience that folk's self styled universal religious mash-ups are no better (actually, they are always worse psychologically) than the kind pulled out of a Vatican tin or a mosque's tower, so to speak. The crucial bit of information that the notions of gods, saints, and scriptures are simply the tools, tricks, crutches, and crow-bars of human psychology that are used to manipulate others, always seems to be left out of the mix. The human psyche struggles unnecessarily under the burden of religious notions, spiritualism, and the guilt of the gods. Be free. Peace and health to you.
 

trainedobserver

Paranormally Disenchanted
#18
I highly recommend Black Elk Speaks by John G. Neihardt.

Whether it was mysticism or just native wisdom bred by centuries of attempting to harmonize with the land rather than to carve it up and monetize it,
some of the natives of North America could see the end of their way of life coming down a railroad track belching smoke.

Here is a bit from the book.

 

BrihonRutiBhingi

Paranormal Novice
#19
The greater truth may be that we are the land. Our disconnection from the Earth is only a mental and philosophical one. We are cells of the greater system to which we belong, the good Earth. The horrors we experience as a civilization are caused by our long disassociation from the land and natural law. I believe the key reasons for this are rooted in the religious texts and teachings that tell the gargantuan lie that mankind has been given dominion over the Earth and the creatures living therein. This is a foundational lie found in the first book of the Bible! The Earth is not human centric. Not by a long shot. We are just a part of the mix, and looking at our sorted history, it is obvious we haven't been mixing well. I feel that our Western philosophical position of being above the system, of knowing better than the ancient natural wisdom manifest in Earth's geological, biological, and evolutionary processes, (aka "nature is flawed, we can make it better"), make us a blight upon the Earth and one that may be soon expelled from the system. When that happens, it is called extinction.

The missionaries should have cast their crosses and holy books filled with lies at the feet of the indigenous people living in harmony with the land. Instead, they saddled them with the guilt, lies, and horrors of the "dominion over the Earth" fantasy.

They created the self-fulfilling prophecy: "There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth."
PS that book of genesis I read it before is like two creations in it when you read between the lines inni......its also a line in a Immortal Technique lyric you maybe can google it learn which song goes something like = they took the book of the dead and rewrote it as GENE-ISIS genesis from here Immortal Technique

Born of apocalypse, the birth of the beast
Released on the ghetto like it was the curse of the streets

The reversal of peace, murder in the first will increase
Snake police state, globally...holding my peeps
The rise of the Fourth Reich and corporate classism
The evolution of institutional fascism
Cuz honest people die for they country and they religion
While the most corrupt orchestrate the world that we live in
You see the future was a promise, the man is prophecy
That shit is a product of the action behind philosophy
The end of the world is the end of the Age of Pisces
The Book of the Dead was re-read as gen-ISIS
The standard of apocalypse broken and cut open
Disease ridden man-made murder its soft spoken
Cloaking the globe, blood soaking is written in codStockpile nuclear weapons, the weight that we sold...
Simon Jester says Hi ;)
Hi Simon Jester and/or Mike nice photo and mi cat says hi hes done the park proably getting high on catnip listening to hip hop and plotting .....
thats not OG orignal Bageera in video he not allowed live where i am but he vistied a while ago then later was all like 'kuluminati kittikhat 'clones' look like him got same tribal shaman markings etc.....probably for the cat ancestors he may be bearing the reproahc of some ancestors same as me and lots others......he looks at the bhagvada gita must be remembering how Krishna tells Aruneja killing oppressors by letting power of Most HIgh work tru them is not a sin but a religous duty then goes looks in the wardrobe like is asking Aslan/Lion of Yuhudah for permsiion. u know narnain story of lion witch and wardrobe. Jesus showed me in last battle of narnia book how they tricked a donkey into wearing Aslans clothes by doing passing magic/wrong witchcraft to trick him. key of dan....tribers of dan their dens havwe gone out to all end of the earth , hopefully they get to go home and rest soon, proably gotta be a serpent(pre.sent) in the path stop these nutty christians who dont want follow CHrist ...Im fed up with those lunatics making stuff up their delusions of gradnuer are so out of control they dont even realised they proably got evil spirits/their own bad shit lurking somewhere inside them too busy mocking and scoffing me just cos Jesus gave me a cat teacher. whatever theres loads of them now and it be up to Jah where they go. sorry if its a bit long and off topic but i tpe real fast and you have a alien photo or whatever and are interested in the paranormal. :)
 

BrihonRutiBhingi

Paranormal Novice
#20
Getting back to topic:

Like others, I've been extremely inspired by the movie Koyaanisqatsi, and have naturally sought out its sources, the Hopi prophesy.

The prophesies are disturbing but I don't really trust that they were not touched up/adjusted in relation to what the Hopi Nation saw happening with the land at the time.
I haven't found earlier written examples of it, so it's unclear if we got the 'original' version. If earlier written examples existed from, say, 1800, that would be very intriguing! Does anyone know of earlier printed versions?

By 1970, the first Earth Day was organized, some say it was in response to the heavily polluted Potomac River which self-ignited and became a river of fire. So, at least some people could see the writing on the wall at the time, and the Hopi speech helped the environmental movement, and gave an insight into a traditional view of humanity as part of nature, both in a practical and spiritual sense. I wonder if it didn't influence someone like James Lovelock, and his notion of Earth as a living whole?
Regardless if it was truly prophetic in the Mystical sense, or not, the speech was clearly an important warning from outside industrial society, and it was very inspirational.

I imagine that people saw the movie inspired by the prophesy? It is a must see. Shalom I not seen it yet ta for da heads up gwan put it on mi to do list....Is maybe possible the hopi stuff is not a hundred per cent accurate also I thnk its here Hopi Prophecies - Prophecy Rock - Crystalinks I read they not allowed to release all the stuff yet anyway, as you can image I aint scared what the illegal govt thinks about what I say but I do remember often be concerened i not want upset anyone who has like legitimate authority ...pls pray holy spirit guide me to express my thoughts more coherently.....also where I mention in previous post about hopi i think this is where i read that. forgive me i cant be sure.
 

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